This is a re-post because people seem to be ignoring this part of my last post. I am curious to know what people think when this is brought up.

Also, with this whole "then vs now" thing, why has nobody mentioned Selanne? He's 41, he played in the 90's with Gretzky, isn't THAT big (6 foot 200lbs), and still put up 66 points last season.
- Domaju

Good point...maybe he continued to develope along with the players coming into the league and kind of evolved into a more modern player and in that way has been able to adjust to the game..definitely a solid point when arguing older players can make the transition, but he was what 20 in '92, when the modern began...it's bordrline, but GREAT point.

The craziest.
- hscesq

Take that back you son of a female dog.
- Leafland

Parent > Plante

That's because it isn't true.

He had an argument with his wife. He went ballistic, and slammed a door, breaking the frame.

His wife called 911 and then hung up. So police had to show up.

Yes, he was arrested. They later dismissed all charges.
- Atomic Wedgie

1 of many.

This is a re-post because people seem to be ignoring this part of my last post. I am curious to know what people think when this is brought up.

Also, with this whole "then vs now" thing, why has nobody mentioned Selanne? He's 41, he played in the 90's with Gretzky, isn't THAT big (6 foot 200lbs), and still put up 66 points last season.
- Domaju

Gretzky was a Jet?

Brodeur.

In terms of #'s it's not even a question. I know people sue the "devil's defense" argument, but they haven't had the best defense for his entire career. He made some pretty acrobatic saves over the years (even in this past years playoffs). So while he's a butterfly icon he still has some athleticism and knows how to use it when he needs too.
- Domaju

Uhmm, yeah it most certainly is. Three Conn Smythe trophies, more than any other player. Brodeur hung on way too long to pad his stats, while Roy quit while he was still on top of the game, he could have played another 4 or 5 seasons. And if only they had met in the finals to see which one was actually better. Oh, yeah, they did, who won again?

and Dougie as a Hab breaking the glass
- BingoLady

I'm taking Roy over Marty...

Id take Roy way over Marty.

Marty is overatted.... put up great team stats.

Amazing longevity.


Not the best ever.
- robin_steele264

How is he overrated?

Gretzky was a Jet?
- BingoLady

He means they played at the same time I think.

Hasek.


In terms of #'s its not even close.
- robin_steele264

He wasn't an option. It was between Roy or Brodeur.

Although I still would take Marty over Hasek personally.

I'm taking Roy over Marty...
- Flyfreaky

This

Uhmm, yeah it most certainly is. Three Conn Smythe trophies, more than any other player. Brodeur hung on way too long to pad his stats, while Roy quit while he was still on top of the game, he could have played another 4 or 5 seasons. And if only they had met in the finals to see which one was actually better. Oh, yeah, they did, who won again?
- Prolific_Scorer

lol.

Uhmm, yeah it most certainly is. Three Conn Smythe trophies, more than any other player. Brodeur hung on way too long to pad his stats, while Roy quit while he was still on top of the game, he could have played another 4 or 5 seasons. And if only they had met in the finals to see which one was actually better. Oh, yeah, they did, who won again?
- Prolific_Scorer

x2

Parent > Plante
- Flyfreaky

Glenn Hall

The true innovator of the Butterfly technique.

Uhmm, yeah it most certainly is. Three Conn Smythe trophies, more than any other player. Brodeur hung on way too long to pad his stats, while Roy quit while he was still on top of the game, he could have played another 4 or 5 seasons. And if only they had met in the finals to see which one was actually better. Oh, yeah, they did, who won again?
- Prolific_Scorer

Brodeurs career best save % = Hasek's career save %


HASEK HANDS DOWN.

How is he overrated?
- peddy-93

u cant over rate a goalie who holds like every record there is, lol.

How is he overrated?
- peddy-93

He isn't as good as people say he is.

He means they played at the same time I think.
- celata29

yes when St Louis played the Jets

Glenn Hall

The true innovator of the Butterfly technique.
- LeafMan

Bryz = Hall

Parent > Plante
- Flyfreaky

Meh, no argument here.

This is a re-post because people seem to be ignoring this part of my last post. I am curious to know what people think when this is brought up.

Also, with this whole "then vs now" thing, why has nobody mentioned Selanne? He's 41, he played in the 90's with Gretzky, isn't THAT big (6 foot 200lbs), and still put up 66 points last season.
- Domaju

Exactly.

He wasn't an option. It was between Roy or Brodeur.

Although I still would take Marty over Hasek personally.
- Domaju

Put them all in their prime and Hasek is clearly the best.

Uhmm, yeah it most certainly is. Three Conn Smythe trophies, more than any other player. Brodeur hung on way too long to pad his stats, while Roy quit while he was still on top of the game, he could have played another 4 or 5 seasons. And if only they had met in the finals to see which one was actually better. Oh, yeah, they did, who won again?
- Prolific_Scorer

Well, even though I believe Roy was better too, it's not like they were shooting on each other!!

Exactly.
- Prolific_Scorer

he scored 76 goals as a rookie, id say its a huge drop off compared to back in the day.

teemu burried what, 76 goals a rookie.

thats when he played in the gretzky era.

if u see another player come in as arookie and score 76 goals, we have gone back to the 80's.

thats what i mean by dif style of hockey. that will never happen again, ever.
- big_dion

I agree. My point was that Selanne is still a VERY good player at 41 years old. If he can put up 66 points at 41 in this league. He could still be very dominant in the new NHL when he was in his prime.

I hadn't thought of that during the argument before. But if he can stay this good at his age in a bigger tougher NHL, I'm sure he would have been even better in his prime. Which to me means if you take Gretzky at his prime, he'd still be dominant in the new NHL.