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celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:05 AM ET
just another inexperienced project to add to the pile.....one which would come at a high cost.
- Barx

Yeah that's what I think. Do you want Lou? Or do you want to hold out a few years and draft someone and deal with the current problem?
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:05 AM ET
hard to tell.

time will tell.

all i know is, burke has done some glorious trades with Ana, and im sure they will be sketchy with any of them, or asking for more since we fleeced them with the gardiner/lupul trade.

- big_dion

Fleeced is an understatement, when it comes to that trade
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:06 AM ET
weak d and a run and gun system still doesn't change the fact that no Leaf goalie has been able to stop the puck with any consistency since belfour.
grant fuhr had a terrible goals against and save percentage, but was renown for making a big save. I'd love to see a 'big save' once in a while instead of the usual deflating beer league level goals which go in game after game.
Our goaltending has been atrocious, an absolute joke for far too long, regardless of our coaching, system or defense.

- Barx

Oh I know...but telling that to some...is a concept not easily grasped.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:06 AM ET



gross....but I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

- Juice


lol

seems about right eh? haha

fyi: il be pissed as well if we waste our time getting Marleau...ugh..

burke has done good with MOST trades though, so i do have hopes he pulls something out that makes us happy.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:07 AM ET
its all coming together now! hahahaha

so im assuming you got the gig as the flames blogger?! GRATS are in order!?!?

- big_dion


Yessir, Im officially the Flames blogger...well one of two, Stacy may also be jumping on board as a tag team, but no confirmation yet.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 16 @ 11:07 AM ET
Yeah I don't see it from Ana perspective. Isn't the idea to trade Ryan and lock up Perry and Getzlaf?
- celata29

Exactly...and that's probably the exact reason why all the rumors are BS.

Why on earth would they trade Getzlaf when Ryan is already half-way out the door.

Unless their budget is about to get cut in half in which case good luck hanging onto Perry when he needs to be resigned if Ryan and Getzlaf are gone.
LeafsOwnHabs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.12.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:08 AM ET
I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!
- Pecafan Fan



I knew you were REALLY a leafs fan all along
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:08 AM ET
lol

seems about right eh? haha

fyi: il be pissed as well if we waste our time getting Marleau...ugh..

burke has done good with MOST trades though, so i do have hopes he pulls something out that makes us happy.

- big_dion

It doesn't make sense to bring in Marleau. You guys don't need another sniper, you need playmaking. I think Burke knows that. Plus TO should remain young and try to bring in young talent, rather than go out and trade young assets for vets, who are on their way out.
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:09 AM ET
Exactly...and that's probably the exact reason why all the rumors are BS.

Why on earth would they trade Getzlaf when Ryan is already half-way out the door.

Unless their budget is about to get cut in half in which case good luck hanging onto Perry when he needs to be resigned if Ryan and Getzlaf are gone.

- Juice

He'd be out the door just as quick...

That's why they are so keen on secondary scoring right now... I'd love to see the Bs get Ryan for Krejci + 1st and switch Seguin to center, but it just worries me because we haven't seen much of him at center.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:09 AM ET
Exactly...and that's probably the exact reason why all the rumors are BS.

Why on earth would they trade Getzlaf when Ryan is already half-way out the door.

Unless their budget is about to get cut in half in which case good luck hanging onto Perry when he needs to be resigned if Ryan and Getzlaf are gone.

- Juice


Well, watching Parise and Suter walk has to have them a bit concerned. I'd imagine if both Getz and Perry haven't signed extensions by the trade Deadline, and Anaheim isn't clearly in for a strong playoff run, at least 1 if not both get traded...

EDIT: plus anaheim was already a budget team, not a cap team, so they might not be able to afford the raises Getz and Perry will get anyway...

big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:10 AM ET
Yessir, Im officially the Flames blogger...well one of two, Stacy may also be jumping on board as a tag team, but no confirmation yet.
- Colin Dambrauskas


LOL

that just sounded so....great!

stacy may be jumping on board as a tag team

WHERE DO I SIGN UP!?!
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:12 AM ET
Well, watching Parise and Suter walk has to have them a bit concerned. I'd imagine if both Getz and Perry haven't signed extensions by the trade Deadline, and Anaheim isn't clearly in for a strong playoff run, at least 1 if not both get traded...

EDIT: plus anaheim was already a budget team, not a cap team, so they might not be able to afford the raises Getz and Perry will get anyway...

- Big_Lightnin


there is certainly some truth in that.

pretty sure they pay Hiller good coin too.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 16 @ 11:12 AM ET
Lol oh yeah that sounds about right...he is always right according to his posts. I said I wouldn't be surprised if the Bs trade Lucic yesterday, and he immediately was like you're an idiot, you'd trade Lucic? I was like no I said it wouldn't surprise me if we did, not that I want to. Then he went on a tear about how every Bruins fan is happy I wasn't GM blah blah blah..
- celata29

That's him to a T.
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:12 AM ET
Well, watching Parise and Suter walk has to have them a bit concerned. I'd imagine if both Getz and Perry haven't signed extensions by the trade Deadline, and Anaheim isn't clearly in for a strong playoff run, at least 1 if not both get traded...

EDIT: plus anaheim was already a budget team, not a cap team, so they might not be able to afford the raises Getz and Perry will get anyway...

- Big_Lightnin

Interesting situation...I wonder if that team gets busted up, where everyone winds up
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 16 @ 11:12 AM ET
I knew you were REALLY a leafs fan all along
- LeafsOwnHabs


You didn't hear?

Training with Gary Roberts turns players into Steven Stamkos!
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 16 @ 11:12 AM ET
Yeah that's what I think. Do you want Lou? Or do you want to hold out a few years and draft someone and deal with the current problem?
- celata29

I am on the fence.
If Lou were a few years younger, I'd be in for sure....but by the time the Leafs can actually compete it will be at least another 3 or 4 years putting Luongo at 37.
Tough call.
I'm okay going with Reimer/Scrivens this season, but if there isn't a drastic improvement the Leafs will 100% have to get a tender at seasons end.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:12 AM ET
He'd be out the door just as quick...

That's why they are so keen on secondary scoring right now... I'd love to see the Bs get Ryan for Krejci + 1st and switch Seguin to center, but it just worries me because we haven't seen much of him at center.

- celata29


Seguin is a gamer, id be ok putting him anywhere at this point.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:12 AM ET
weak d and a run and gun system still doesn't change the fact that no Leaf goalie has been able to stop the puck with any consistency since belfour.
grant fuhr had a terrible goals against and save percentage, but was renown for making a big save. I'd love to see a 'big save' once in a while instead of the usual deflating beer league level goals which go in game after game.
Our goaltending has been atrocious, an absolute joke for far too long, regardless of our coaching, system or defense.

- Barx


honest question:

do you think some of those weak goals go away with tighter D? opposition shooters were given way too much time to pick their shots.. and, with scouting the way it is nowadays, those shooters know where to shoot on each goalie in the league (reimer for example is glove high.. or pressure the crease and he starts to sit deep). so when a shooter is given the extra time by a leafs defense trying to recover from an offensive push (one they didnt truly have the skill set to implement) i gotta think that increased the opposition chances of scoring.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
You didn't hear?

Training with Gary Roberts turns players into Steven Stamkos!

- Pecafan Fan


id train with Gary if i was an NHL player, that guy is the definition of animal.
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
I am on the fence.
If Lou were a few years younger, I'd be in for sure....but by the time the Leafs can actually compete it will be at least another 3 or 4 years putting Luongo at 37.
Tough call.
I'm okay going with Reimer/Scrivens this season, but if there isn't a drastic improvement the Leafs will 100% have to get a tender at seasons end.

- Barx

You guys seem like you're in a Catch 22 with goalies right now, especially because of what's available.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 16 @ 11:14 AM ET
lol

seems about right eh? haha

fyi: il be pissed as well if we waste our time getting Marleau...ugh..

burke has done good with MOST trades though, so i do have hopes he pulls something out that makes us happy.

- big_dion

I wouldn't worry too much about Marleau coming to Toronto.
In all likeliness he probably wouldn't waive his NTC to come to a team with so much uncertainty and if Burke is going to trade what SJ would want for Marleau, he may as well throw in the extra 1st rounder or high prospect and get Getzlaf....but again I don't even think Getzlaf is available, but you know what I mean.
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:14 AM ET
Seguin is a gamer, id be ok putting him anywhere at this point.
- big_dion

Yeah and i wouldn't mind giving up Krejci. A little inconsistent and to be honest I think we need a goal scorer...all around I think it would work. What do you think?
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 16 @ 11:14 AM ET
You didn't hear?

Training with Gary Roberts turns players into Steven Stamkos!

- Pecafan Fan

well, it can't hurt. look at james neal.
...if theres a player that needs it, it's kadri.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 16 @ 11:15 AM ET
He'd be out the door just as quick...

That's why they are so keen on secondary scoring right now... I'd love to see the Bs get Ryan for Krejci + 1st and switch Seguin to center, but it just worries me because we haven't seen much of him at center.

- celata29

That'd be a tough trade to see happen. I really like Krejci but he's so up and down.

When he's up, he's amazing to watch but when he's down he's almost invisible. I'm not entirely sold on Ryan but at the same time he's been in a pretty weird situation in Anaheim so who knows if trading him somewhere that he'd be happy could reveal a whole nother level of talent.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 16 @ 11:16 AM ET
well, it can't hurt. look at james neal.
...if theres a player that needs it, it's kadri.

- Barx


No doubt.

I just find it funny how people read way too much into this.
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