Hey EK
I don't think they would take 2or3 bad contracts. That would be great though!
- jimmy33

I don't care what Gillis won't take. There isn't a market for Luongo. With that idea, if he isn't willing to take at least as much bad salary as what Luongo's cap hit is, then it makes no sense in doing the deal.

We're not in the business to help Vancouver out. If Gillis wants to sit on him, fine. Let Gillis be the ringmaster of that three ringed media circus and speculation that will ensue once the season starts. Let's see how that affects the rest of the team in Vancouver. Let Luongo be a huge distraction there.

Rick Nash, the Dwight Howard of the NHL.
- 1goalLordStanley

I'm sure Luongo is being just as agreeable with his NTC.

That's fine...then they can just keep Lu in Vancouver. Fine by me.
- Ogilthorpe2

If they don't want any one of our bad contracts back, I agree. Stan in no way should give up a significant player off of the roster for Lu unless it is Lu + in a bigger deal

Something in there. There's some bad juju out there. Organization has a black cloud over it.
- John Jaeckel

Like when thy had to overpay for Campbell and Huet because no free agent wanted to come here?

A full circle trip?

Last Riot to happen in Chicago..........68 Democratic convention? or maybe when the White sox won the serries a car was burned and windows broken.............Or was that the first of the Bulls Championships?
- blkhwkfn

Disco nite at Sox Park.

Vantel,

This isn't a personal slap so please don't be offended...I like reading your comments but to think Gillis has any leverage is absurd.

First you had trouble admitting Luongo asked to be traded(wants to move on is really the same thing) and once that happened any leverage Gillis had was gone.

Personally I would be fine with Luongo coming here as long as it was for a low price but I think Gillis will convince Fla. to take him or Luongo will expand his list of teams.

Either way the Canucks will get back no more than projects/draft picks/ bad contracts or off the radar prospects.

Like I have said too many times, Gillis hestitated....

The Hawks gave Campbell away but the front office knew teams that are $30 mill under the cap with a familar GM to boot don't come around very often.

I didn't like the Campbell dump then and won't until the cap space saved is used wisely.

He who hesitates is lost and right now Gillis is caught.

As far as the comments from you and others about goal tending issues here...

I realize the importance because in my lifetime there have been three HOF goalies that have played for the Hawks. That's something the Canucks, Flyers and other clubs haven't had in the last 50 years...

But you don't open the check book too wide to buy something there are no buyers for.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia
- Al

Al, I would say the same to you, I think you are off base here. Comparing this situation to the Campbell trade last year makes no sense. Because Bowman got nothing in return does not set a standard for future trades. This mistake doesn't mean that every other GM in the league will expect nothing in return for a high priced player. Do you think Howson will accept an overpaid AHL player on a one way NHL contract as compensation for Nash? Gillis has an extra all star goalie and there are at least three teams expressing interest. Gillis has set a price, it seems that price is too high, at least for now. If Bowman seriously believes that Luongo gives his team a better chance to win than what he currently has, then he will have to be willing to give something back that Gillis finds value in. Gillis may have to take salary back in return, but it will not be for a player that is not an upgrade over something he already has unless there is something else very sweet in the deal.

I believe that Gillis is still looking for a second line RW, a third line C and maybe a depth D. He may expect to receive all three in a trade for Luongo, or he may expect one roster player and prospects or picks, I really don't know. What I do know is that Gillis would rather go into the season with two outstanding net minders then to make a deal that doesn't make the team better. If Bowman believes he has other options out there, I'm sure he will explore the cost/benefit, but if you think that Chicago can acquire Kiprusoff or Backstrom or some other proven starter for a $2.75 million 5/6 defenceman a $2.33 million 5 goal scorer and a $3.125 million AHL player you are mistaken.

If they don't want any one of our bad contracts back, I agree. Stan in no way should give up a significant player off of the roster for Lu unless it is Lu + in a bigger deal
- jimmy33

Perhaps this is what they are exploring and why the rumors keep rearing their ugly heads?

Just my (somewhat informed) opinion:

There are players here that some don't want to play with. The reason those players are here extends to the front office and management. The front office is the big problem. Th infighting and conflicting agendas are now widely known throughout the league. Again, just my opinion, but it is borne out by much of what I've heard and observed.
- John Jaeckel

Thanks for the explanation JJ. Sux to hear.

Disco nite at Sox Park.
- StLBravesFan

CRAP!!!!! thats the best one right there!!!!

Disco nite at Sox Park.
- StLBravesFan

I.was.there.
It.was.nutz!

After the first time the Hawks get outscored 9-6 by the Oilers he will
- VANTEL

ouch!!! Can I hang that quote beside our 2010 STANLEY CUP team photo

I.was.there.
It.was.nutz!
- ArlingtonRob

I seen it on TV...........Sportsvision oh yeah

Last Riot to happen in Chicago..........68 Democratic convention? or maybe when the White sox won the serries a car was burned and windows broken.............Or was that the first of the Bulls Championships?
- blkhwkfn

When the ChiSox won the '05 WS, that was tame compared to the '68 DNC. Bulls '92 title at CHICAGO STADIUM was great, but there were a few taxi's over-tuned near State & Division + a couple minor issue around the barn... still pales in comparison. 2010 BLACKHAWKS STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONSHIP ?!?! Virtually nothing on crime too...! ChiTown & the CPD should be proud of their track record during sports events.

I.was.there.
It.was.nutz!
- ArlingtonRob

Are you having your period again?

You're like a bad girl friend.

I don't care what Gillis won't take. There isn't a market for Luongo. With that idea, if he isn't willing to take at least as much bad salary as what Luongo's cap hit is, then it makes no sense in doing the deal.

We're not in the business to help Vancouver out. If Gillis wants to sit on him, fine. Let Gillis be the ringmaster of that three ringed media circus and speculation that will ensue once the season starts. Let's see how that affects the rest of the team in Vancouver. Let Luongo be a huge distraction there.
- EKolb13

I don't believe he will take 3 bad contracts back unless we possibly give him a Leddy or a top tier prospect which ain't happening. But who knows!!

When the ChiSox won the '05 WS, that was tame compared to the '68 DNC. Bulls '92 title at CHICAGO STADIUM was great, but there were a few taxi's over-tuned near State & Division + a couple minor issue around the barn... still pales in comparison. 2010 BLACKHAWKS STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONSHIP ?!?! Virtually nothing on crime too...! ChiTown & the CPD should be proud of their track record during sports events.
- blackhawk24

Track record PERIOD. Especially with the NATO Summit.

When the ChiSox won the '05 WS, that was tame compared to the '68 DNC. Bulls '92 title at CHICAGO STADIUM was great, but there were a few taxi's over-tuned near State & Division + a couple minor issue around the barn... still pales in comparison. 2010 BLACKHAWKS STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONSHIP ?!?! Virtually nothing on crime too...! ChiTown & the CPD should be proud of their track record during sports events.
- blackhawk24

+1

Track record PERIOD. Especially with the NATO Summit.
- 1goalLordStanley

Yeah they were on top of thier craft and foiled the defunct boy band terorists

Something in there. There's some bad juju out there. Organization has a black cloud over it.
- John Jaeckel

That's unfortunate for the organization and us the fans.

If those so called bad eggs are preventing us from attacting other players to the team why would management keep holding on to these players? Sounds like a locker room issue and if that's the case then that's bad news indeed.

Hope SB and Q can figure it out even if it means a major shake up.

I.was.there.
It.was.nutz!
- ArlingtonRob

So was there or was there not a couple boinking near 2B ??? Leave it to Dahl to come up with with that!! '79 right?

Al, I would say the same to you, I think you are off base here. Comparing this situation to the Campbell trade last year makes no sense. Because Bowman got nothing in return does not set a standard for future trades. This mistake doesn't mean that every other GM in the league will expect nothing in return for a high priced player. Do you think Howson will accept an overpaid AHL player on a one way NHL contract as compensation for Nash? Gillis has an extra all star goalie and there are at least three teams expressing interest. Gillis has set a price, it seems that price is too high, at least for now. If Bowman seriously believes that Luongo gives his team a better chance to win than what he currently has, then he will have to be willing to give something back that Gillis finds value in. Gillis may have to take salary back in return, but it will not be for a player that is not an upgrade over something he already has unless there is something else very sweet in the deal.

I believe that Gillis is still looking for a second line RW, a third line C and maybe a depth D. He may expect to receive all three in a trade for Luongo, or he may expect one roster player and prospects or picks, I really don't know. What I do know is that Gillis would rather go into the season with two outstanding net minders then to make a deal that doesn't make the team better. If Bowman believes he has other options out there, I'm sure he will explore the cost/benefit, but if you think that Chicago can acquire Kiprusoff or Backstrom or some other proven starter for a $2.75 million 5/6 defenceman a $2.33 million 5 goal scorer and a $3.125 million AHL player you are mistaken.
- 1970vintage

You just don't get it, do you?

I seen it on TV...........Sportsvision oh yeah
- blkhwkfn

I was 17, and there was no indication that anything odd was gonna happen...
...until we got to the park. There was a strange vibe in the crowd, and most of the ''fans'' were not fans of baseball.

I.was.there.
It.was.nutz!
- ArlingtonRob

So was there or was there not a couple boinking near 2B ??? Leave it to Dahl to come up with with that idea of blowing up disco LP's!! '79 right?

So was there or was there not a couple boinking near 2B ??? Leave it to Dahl to come up with with that!! '79 right?
- blackhawk24

I heard that too, but I didn't see anything...just chaos.

You just don't get it, do you?
- Ogilthorpe2

Whether you want to trade for Luongo or not is irrelevant, unless you are the GM in disguise. What I'm saying is: 1) one mistake by a GM does not set a precedent for the rest of the league, and 2) Gillis is the type of guy that will make a smart business decision, meaning he will not trade Luongo unless he feels the return makes the Canucks better, which I think most Chicago fans think Luongo does for the Hawks.

If there is something else that you feel I clearly don't get, please explain it for me.