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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 19 @ 12:58 AM ET
According to Darren Dreger on Twitter Shea Weber has signed an offer sheet with the Flyers for 14 years and over $100 million. Nashville has 7 days to match the offer.
dan9189
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago, IL
Joined: 06.29.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:02 AM ET
If Nashville's final offer to Suter was 13 yrs 90 mil which is what was reported, I don't see them not matching Weber's offer sheet. Philly might have done Nashville a favor here.
eric.killham
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:02 AM ET
According to Darren Dreger on Twitter Shea Weber has signed an offer sheet with the Flyers for 14 years and over $100 million. Nashville has 7 days to match the offer.
- DarthKane


The preds will get 4 first round picks if they don't match
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:04 AM ET
If Nashville's final offer to Suter was 13 yrs 90 mil which is what was reported, I don't see them not matching Weber's offer sheet. Philly might have done Nashville a favor here.
- dan9189


This helps the Hawks. If Nashville matches they have a lot of cap space tied in one player. If not they another division rival gets weaker.
eric.killham
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:07 AM ET
This helps the Hawks. If Nashville matches they have a lot of cap space tied in one player. If not they another division rival gets weaker.
- DarthKane


Shea Weber's tag was 7.5 mil through arbitration right? His new contract will be 7.14 mil , but he'll be set until he's 40
dan9189
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago, IL
Joined: 06.29.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:08 AM ET
This helps the Hawks. If Nashville matches they have a lot of cap space tied in one player. If not they another division rival gets weaker.
- DarthKane


True. Nashville will match though. Can't see them losing Suter and Weber for 4 1st rd draft picks.
eric.killham
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:09 AM ET
True. Nashville will match though. Can't see them losing Suter and Weber for 4 1st rd draft picks.
- dan9189

Drager says they might not even get that 2 1st's, a 2nd, and a 3rd depending on the aav
eric.killham
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:11 AM ET
The Hawks have that cap space. Lets get in on this hahaha
dan9189
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago, IL
Joined: 06.29.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:16 AM ET
The way to get Weber out of Nashville was to have him sign a 1 yr offer sheet. Philly messed up.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:19 AM ET
Ya still around Southern?

I'm at work...in and out of the office.

- ArlingtonRob


IM at work too...ill be in here time to time
eric.killham
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:22 AM ET
The way to get Weber out of Nashville was to have him sign a 1 yr offer sheet. Philly messed up.
- dan9189


Thats easily matched by Nashville and besides he has a 1yr/7.5 arbitration offer he could have signed if he wanted to leave them high and dry. Philly is locking up a franchise defenseman who can shore up their d-core for a long time to come. If Nashville matches Weber may get his money and then request a trade next year anyway. Nashville should match, but at this point idk
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:40 AM ET
The way to get Weber out of Nashville was to have him sign a 1 yr offer sheet. Philly messed up.
- dan9189

Were they to do that, Nashville could pocket the 4 first round picks and Philly is only guaranteed to have him for one year. Quite a gamble.
miked23
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 19 @ 3:47 AM ET
This helps the Hawks. If Nashville matches they have a lot of cap space tied in one player. If not they another division rival gets weaker.
- DarthKane

Til Nash heads east and we get Minn
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 19 @ 3:55 AM ET
Nashville is in pretty nice shape here...they either have Weber, or a boatload of first round picks.

And the Hawks kinda benefit too...Weber either goes east for a long time, or stays in Nashville where it will always be tough putting a great team on the ice.

At least Weber won't move to Detroit, which is nice.

Guess we'll know more after the sun rises.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 19 @ 3:55 AM ET
Til Nash heads east and we get Minn
- miked23


That's fine...I want Minnesota in the Hawks division...good old rivalry renewed.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 19 @ 3:57 AM ET
The Hawks have that cap space. Lets get in on this hahaha
- eric.killham


Can't now...it's only Philly and Nashville. One or the other gets him for a long time.

Or perhaps I don't quite know the rules...

What happens if Nashville matches? Don't the Preds have to accept the 14 year deal that Weber signs? In effect didn't Philly to the negotiating for Nashville by making this offer sheet?

If yes, seems Philly did Nashville a favor here. Either they keep Weber, which is nice, or they get a crapload of picks, which is nice going forward. And Nashville could just decide to rebuild, so go into the toilet and be in several future lotteries...just like the Oil...

Would be tough on the fans, but no one said being a small market NHL team was easy.
scorerstouch
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jul 19 @ 5:09 AM ET
And the Nashville dismantling continues....

Will it happen, dunno. Depends on what Weber tells Nashville. If he tells them you can match it but he can hint that matching it might not be in their best interests. Meaning they'll pay him 100 mil but he may decide to feel injured a lot.

Really depends on his distaste for Nashville. Suter leaving, Nashville does nothing during the offseason to improve their roster. Weber probably wants out.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 19 @ 5:28 AM ET
And the Nashville dismantling continues....

Will it happen, dunno. Depends on what Weber tells Nashville. If he tells them you can match it but he can hint that matching it might not be in their best interests. Meaning they'll pay him 100 mil but he may decide to feel injured a lot.

Really depends on his distaste for Nashville. Suter leaving, Nashville does nothing during the offseason to improve their roster. Weber probably wants out.

- scorerstouch


I don't see it that way...

Weber is signing this due to the CBA expiring. New CBA may limit bonuses and term, so this may be the last, best chance for a monster deal. Also, I think it's simple...Weber has always been content in Nashville, with this it's either Philly or Nashville...he stays home or makes one move...and of course he'll be loaded.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 19 @ 6:38 AM ET
I don't see it that way...

Weber is signing this due to the CBA expiring. New CBA may limit bonuses and term, so this may be the last, best chance for a monster deal. Also, I think it's simple...Weber has always been content in Nashville, with this it's either Philly or Nashville...he stays home or makes one move...and of course he'll be loaded.

- ArlingtonRob


This!
scorerstouch
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jul 19 @ 6:42 AM ET
I don't see it that way...

Weber is signing this due to the CBA expiring. New CBA may limit bonuses and term, so this may be the last, best chance for a monster deal. Also, I think it's simple...Weber has always been content in Nashville, with this it's either Philly or Nashville...he stays home or makes one move...and of course he'll be loaded.

- ArlingtonRob



The HI guy says per source NSH unlikely to match. Weber also apparently doesn't want to play in NSH. I always new that town wasn't a good place for hockey. Weber wants to win and NSH is going to have to rebuild and that's no guarantee they will ever be as competitive as they were this year.

CBH could have made him a similar offer only problem they will have to dump a big salary to have done something like this. DK being the one I would move.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 19 @ 6:47 AM ET
The HI guy says per source NSH unlikely to match. Weber also apparently doesn't want to play in NSH. I always new that town wasn't a good place for hockey. Weber wants to win and NSH is going to have to rebuild and that's no guarantee they will ever be as competitive as they were this year.

CBH could have made him a similar offer only problem they will have to dump a big salary to have done something like this. DK being the one I would move.

- scorerstouch


I wouldn't want the Hawks to offer sheet a Shea Weber, the compensatory picks would be ludicrous. Would not have a decent pick for years.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 19 @ 7:02 AM ET
According to Darren Dreger on Twitter Shea Weber has signed an offer sheet with the Flyers for 14 years and over $100 million. Nashville has 7 days to match the offer.
- DarthKane


I heart homer.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 19 @ 7:10 AM ET
I heart homer.
- moylander


If ya get him, better hope he stays healthy...

...or you could be stuck paying Pronger and Weber, plus no top picks for years.

I can only imagine the price of tickets in Philly....WOW!
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 19 @ 7:15 AM ET
Can't now...it's only Philly and Nashville. One or the other gets him for a long time.

Or perhaps I don't quite know the rules...

What happens if Nashville matches? Don't the Preds have to accept the 14 year deal that Weber signs? In effect didn't Philly to the negotiating for Nashville by making this offer sheet?

If yes, seems Philly did Nashville a favor here. Either they keep Weber, which is nice, or they get a crapload of picks, which is nice going forward. And Nashville could just decide to rebuild, so go into the toilet and be in several future lotteries...just like the Oil...

Would be tough on the fans, but no one said being a small market NHL team was easy.

- ArlingtonRob


You're correct. It's down to Nashville or Philadelphia.

While the picks would help Nashville rebuild, I don't know if they can afford to go into "rebuild mode" and possibly alienate their fan base even more.

I think Poile is going to have to match this one.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 19 @ 7:16 AM ET
If ya get him, better hope he stays healthy...

...or you could be stuck paying Pronger and Weber, plus no top picks for years.

I can only imagine the price of tickets in Philly....WOW!

- ArlingtonRob


4 1st round picks. All 4 of those picks would probably be in the bottom ten of the first round.
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