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Kruger's overall game and experience makes him a legitimate NHL player right now. Saad might have some moments where he look slike an NHL player at 19. he will also have many where he doesn't. Coaches and scouts will see it, lots of fans won't.
- John Jaeckel

Fair enough. I mean more in terms of relying on either to have a big impact or counting it as money in the bank (especially with a rookie) is kind of silly for the front office to make that assumption.

I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect a more consistent year from leddy though with the obvious gifts he has.

Just got done working...needed a good laugh...what a $hit weather day. I feel like Mr. Cranky Pants today.
- Ogilthorpe2

Have yourself a Snickers Bar.

Seventeen-O-three.

17 oh 4

1704 !!!!

Historical Events for Year 1704

Feb 28th - Elias Neau, a Frenchman, opens a school for blacks in NYC
Feb 28th - Indians attack Deerfield, Mass, kill 40, kidnap 100
Feb 29th - French & Indians attack Deerfield, Mass, kill 50, abduct 100
Apr 17th - 1st successful US newspaper; published in Boston by John Campbell
Apr 24th - "Boston News-Letter," 1st successful newspaper in US, forms
May 1st - Boston Newsletter publishes 1st newspaper ad
May 20th - Elias Neau forms school for slaves in NY
Jul 12th - Stanislaw Leszcynski becomes king of part of Poland
Jul 24th - English & Dutch troops occupy Gibraltar
Aug 2nd - Duke of Marlborough beats French & Bavarians at Blenheim
Aug 3rd - English/Dutch fleet under Rooke/Callenburgh occupy Gibraltar
Aug 4th - War of Spanish Succession, English & Dutch troops occupy Gibraltar
Aug 13th - French & Bavarian forces were routed by a combined British, German & Dutch army at Blenheim, Germany
Aug 24th - Sea battle at Malaga
Aug 25th - Battle at Malaga: French vs English & Dutch fleet
Sep 28th - Maryland allows divorce if wife mispleases clergyman/preacher

1705 !

Damn wasn't 1704

Historical events for the year 1705

Jan 8th - George F Handel's 1st opera "Almira," premieres in Hamburg
Apr 16th - Queen Anne of England knights Isaac Newton at Trinity College
Apr 23rd - Richard Steele's "Tender Husband," premieres in London
Oct 1st - Parliament declares Hungary independently/French Rákóczi becomes kingOct 15th - English fleet under Lord Peterborough occupies Barcelona
Nov 23rd - Nicholas Rowe's "Ulysses," premieres in London
Dec 29th - Prosper Jolyot's "Idomenée," premieres in Paris


FINALLY!!!!!!!

btw is anyone else fed up with the whole phoenix situation? Just move the team out of that city and be done with it! Would love to see a team in milwaukee, that would be a great rivalry with the hawks, and close proximity.

btw is anyone else fed up with the whole phoenix situation? Just move the team out of that city and be done with it! Would love to see a team in milwaukee, that would be a great rivalry with the hawks, and close proximity.
- Wowo2282

I think the league should get the F out of the way and just let Hockey in the Desert die.

BTW...if 1704 wasn't really 1704 but was actually 1705, then your 1705 wasn't really 1705 but rather it was actually 1706....just sayin

btw is anyone else fed up with the whole phoenix situation? Just move the team out of that city and be done with it! Would love to see a team in milwaukee, that would be a great rivalry with the hawks, and close proximity.
- Wowo2282

I wouldn't mind seeing the California Seals again - man the wite skates were awesome.

BTW...if 1704 wasn't really 1704 but was actually 1705, then your 1705 wasn't really 1705 but rather it was actually 1706....just sayin
- Ogilthorpe2

This is true i noticed it lol

BTW...if 1704 wasn't really 1704 but was actually 1705, then your 1705 wasn't really 1705 but rather it was actually 1706....just sayin
- Ogilthorpe2

Now I'm confused...

Love this line from Bettman..

Bettman believes NHL’s CBA proposals “need serious consideration for us to move forward”

If the owners CBA outline is serious, why are these same owners spending like there's no cap? Is it hypocrisy or just a paradox? ...or both.

If the cap comes down, but "superstars" demand 8-10M a year, won't this lead to more disparity between good players and the rank and file?

Seems like this system will only lead to more problems down the road. Don't like it...

Love this line from Bettman..

Bettman believes NHL’s CBA proposals “need serious consideration for us to move forward”

If the owners CBA outline is serious, why are these same owners spending like there's no cap? Is it hypocrisy or just a paradox? ...or both.

If the cap comes down, but "superstars" demand 8-10M a year, won't this lead to more disparity between good players and the rank and file?

Seems like this system will only lead to more problems down the road. Don't like it...
- ArlingtonRob

Hypocrisy i think......

How the frank is james wisniewski getting paid 5.5 per, he is a mediocre defenseman. One hit wonder garrison getting 4.6 mil

And Suter??? The guy is good, and how much did playing next to weber help? but 7.5 million!! Are you out of your mind?? Glad the hawks weren't stupid to take that cap hit.

The owners have plenty of money to throw at these guys. I hope the cap goes down and the teams that overpaid for guys can drown in those contracts. What a joke free agency has become. The last 2 years have brought out astronomically high contracts

btw is anyone else fed up with the whole phoenix situation? Just move the team out of that city and be done with it! Would love to see a team in milwaukee, that would be a great rivalry with the hawks, and close proximity.
- Wowo2282

And competition for a segment of the fan base - maybe goad Rocky into long-term effective action.

But - couldn't afford te territorial rights fees.

in the year 1716


Jan 8th - Dutch gang leader "Sjako" arrested
Feb 6th - England & Netherlands renew alliance
Feb 10th - Scottish pretender to the throne James III Edward returns to France
Apr 4th - Russian & Prussian troops occupy Wismar
Apr 8th - Duke Karel Leopold of Mecklenburg-Schwerin signs covenant with Russia & marries Czar Peter the Great's niece
Apr 15th - Russian & Prussian troops occupy Wismar
Jun 5th - England & Emperor Karel VI signs military treaty
Jun 6th - 1st slaves arrive in Louisiana
Jun 25th - Eugenius of Savoye named land guardian of Austrian Netherlands
Jul 8th - Great Northern War: Battle of Dynekilen
Jul 18th - Decree orders all Jews expelled from Brussels
Aug 1st - 1st sculling race (London Bridge to Chelsea)
Aug 1st - Waterman's race on Thames 1st rowed
Aug 5th - Battle at Peterwardein: Eugenius van Savoye beats Turks
Aug 5th - The Battle of Petrovaradin takes place.
Sep 6th - 1st US lighthouse built (Boston)
Sep 14th - 1st lighthouse in US lit (Boston Harbor)
Oct 9th - England & France sign treaty
Oct 13th - Hungarian Emperor Karel VI's troops occupy Temesvar
Russian Tsar Peter the Great Nov 3rd - Pacification Treaty of Warsaw: Czar Peter the Great guarantees Saxon monarch August I's Polish kingdom
Nov 26th - 1st lion exhibited in America (Boston)

The battle of Peterwardein was a motherfukerr

Love this line from Bettman..

Bettman believes NHL’s CBA proposals “need serious consideration for us to move forward”

If the owners CBA outline is serious, why are these same owners spending like there's no cap? Is it hypocrisy or just a paradox? ...or both.

If the cap comes down, but "superstars" demand 8-10M a year, won't this lead to more disparity between good players and the rank and file?

Seems like this system will only lead to more problems down the road. Don't like it...
- ArlingtonRob

Is hypocrisy and paradox a simile for stupidity? As in Craig Leopold and the Minnesota Wild.

But apart from Suter and Parise, I don't see that much in gross, idiotic spending going on this year. In fact, there are plenty of players with no contracts or offers on the table - from the fringe player to guys like Semin. Crosby just resigned for the same money, he didnt squeeze for more..

From what I understand, there are 10 teams in the league losing $25M annually on operations. The owners and their idiot General Managers share alot of the rsponsibility for that. Whatever system is agreed to, the teams hold the cards when it comes to contracts offers, signings for ridiculous lengths of time etc.

If you don't like a cap system, be prepared for teams like NYR, Philly, Toronto and Detroit to spend whatever it takes to win every year; $100M payrolls would be common quickly.

Bettman's proposal should also have included folding the Phoenix franchise. Let the players chew on that one for awhile.

Hypocrisy i think......

How the frank is james wisniewski getting paid 5.5 per, he is a mediocre defenseman. One hit wonder garrison getting 4.6 mil

And Suter??? The guy is good, and how much did playing next to weber help? but 7.5 million!! Are you out of your mind?? Glad the hawks weren't stupid to take that cap hit.

The owners have plenty of money to throw at these guys. I hope the cap goes down and the teams that overpaid for guys can drown in those contracts. What a joke free agency has become. The last 2 years have brought out astronomically high contracts
- Wowo2282

The players luv the big bucks (who wouldn't?) and the owners seem hell bent on outbidding each other for the services of these players, so why even have a cap?

As always, owners insist that players control the spending habits...

...of the owners.

Then owners turn around and bid up the best players, CBA ends...and the owners complain about salaries.

Rinse and repeat...

Not sure what you are refering to for the $20 or the caring if any one likes you or not. I dont remember talking about that. I too am concerned how the hawks do and want them to do well. However in thier current state they are barely a playoff team. Current FAs that could help the club are turning down Stans offers (rumor being that they are low ball offers), and backing out of trades at the last minute. That dosent sound like the right direction to me. I cant say too much on Stans drafting yet its still incomplete. So some here think things are all fine, so once the season starts (when it does) I think there will be many leaving the side that thinks things are going well.
- blkhwkfn

I didn't mean a thing just a long day and a little bit owly!Same old no activity and frustration!This is going to go on until NHLPA deal then a flurry of activity!

Is hypocrisy and paradox a simile for stupidity? As in Craig Leopold and the Minnesota Wild.

But apart from Suter and Parise, I don't see that much in gross, idiotic spending going on this year. In fact, there are plenty of players with no contracts or offers on the table - from the fringe player to guys like Semin. Crosby just resigned for the same money, he didnt squeeze for more..

From what I understand, there are 10 teams in the league losing $25M annually on operations. The owners and their idiot General Managers share alot of the rsponsibility for that. Whatever system is agreed to, the teams hold the cards when it comes to contracts offers, signings for ridiculous lengths of time etc.

If you don't like a cap system, be prepared for teams like NYR, Philly, Toronto and Detroit to spend whatever it takes to win every year; $100M payrolls would be common quickly.

Bettman's proposal should also have included folding the Phoenix franchise. Let the players chew on that one for awhile.
- RickJ

How about Wideman getting 5.5M a year
Mike Green getting 6M a year
40yo Ray Whitney 4.5M a year for 2 years.
Adam Burish 1.8M a year for 4 years

to name a few.

Good afternoon guys...hows things.

Good afternoon guys...hows things.
- southernhawk

SOSDD.

Is hypocrisy and paradox a simile for stupidity? As in Craig Leopold and the Minnesota Wild.

But apart from Suter and Parise, I don't see that much in gross, idiotic spending going on this year. In fact, there are plenty of players with no contracts or offers on the table - from the fringe player to guys like Semin. Crosby just resigned for the same money, he didnt squeeze for more..

From what I understand, there are 10 teams in the league losing $25M annually on operations. The owners and their idiot General Managers share alot of the rsponsibility for that. Whatever system is agreed to, the teams hold the cards when it comes to contracts offers, signings for ridiculous lengths of time etc.

If you don't like a cap system, be prepared for teams like NYR, Philly, Toronto and Detroit to spend whatever it takes to win every year; $100M payrolls would be common quickly.

Bettman's proposal should also have included folding the Phoenix franchise. Let the players chew on that one for awhile.
- RickJ

Rick, it's not that I don't like it...I'm kinda neutral really...whatever works.

I suppose any system will have big flaws and problems. Perhaps a luxury tax for choosing to exceed the cap? Greater profit sharing with the lesser clubs?

If the league wants to maintain 30 clubs, 15 cannot struggle tp stay afloat financially.

Conversely, if the players want a free market for their services, they also need to realize that many teams will struggle to complete for the best players. Without good players, poor teams struggle, fans don't attend....a negative feedback loop sets up....teams can fail and jobs will be lost.

Jeez...I can see why these negotiations can last forever.

Where I see the biggest issue in comparing Leddy's potential to Lidstrom is in hockey smarts. Lidstrom was perhaps the smartest hockey player to ever play the game. His instincts were second to none. As far as Leddy, he is without a doubt very gifted, but his hockey IQ doesn't seem to be that great IMO. This is where a gifted player separates himself from the others and is a special player. Not saying Leddy doesn't have the tools to be a special player, he does, but I just don't see it from a mental aspect.
- hawks2010

Ligitimate arguement and only time will tell if he has the hockey IQ to be a special player. Solid coaching would help but thats not going to happen. I fear he gets traded to a team with good coaching and becomes everything i think he can be and part of that is him paired with a physical defenseman and a solid goalie that allows him to be aggressive offensively. Hockey is a team game and Leddy needs a supporting cast