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Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:04 PM ET
Al,
Jamie sounds like the PERFECT guy for the job.
Q wouldn't want someone that would buck his system or upset his kingdom. Now he's got his perfect little world, surrounded by know-nothings that have career track records of failure. No real need to go out and hire a smart candidate.

I think Q just sealed his fate and will end up hanging by his own petard.
Where is Shakespeare when a guy needs him?

- savvyone-1


You might have missed my first tweet on the hire..

As expected for Hawks Asst.- A strong Q. connection and not a big name

On Twitter@AlCimaglia
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:04 PM ET
from Chi Tribune: "We are excited to add Jamie as assistant coach and certainly welcome the Stanley Cup pedigree he brings,”

FRONT OFFICE ALREADY APPLYING THEIR SPIN

- Hawkswin


I expect them to spin when they do something, however minor.

It's the spin when they don't do anything that's gaulling.
Fat_Tony_Amonte
Joined: 12.08.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:06 PM ET
The season can't start soon enough. This slow bleed of demoralizing moves, and lack there of, is killing me.

I need an IV.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
Anyone want to start a pool as to when Q gets canned?
- EKolb13

28 games, even if there's up to a 2-3 month lockout.
JoeHawks88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
Q begging to be fired.
busmaster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
That's a little more than unfair JJ. All Bus has said was if this is a wasted season (right or wrong) that Saad may as well get a year of seasoning under his belt. I don't agree with that idea (he needs time in the A and the Hawks needs someone ready now), but nowhere did Bus tout him as a star or predict a Calder for him. I know you don't like the FO pushing this kid on the fans like he is a savior, but you seem to get awfully testy when his name comes up.

The earlier poster had it right, Saad has become quite the lightning rod on this board for some reason. Kid isn't going to have a chance whenever he arrives in Chicago with some of you guys.

- PhatJoeSki


Thank you. Thats all I'm saying...

Until we get some legitimate toughness on F and D to go with our smallish skilled guys, its going to be another first round exit... Obviously there's no one in the farm system to do that soon. (Johns maybe)

I don't want to see us wasting any more years of Toews, Hossa and Seabs either...
savvyone-1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL
Joined: 03.04.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
You might have missed my first tweet on the hire..

As expected for Hawks Asst.- A strong Q. connection and not a big name

On Twitter@AlCimaglia

- Al


No, Al, I did see that too --
And you were spot-on with that call (kudos to you my friend!)

I just was hoping that the connection would NOT be someone reviled by another team's fan base, someone that not only we did not know but actually had a track record of success.

Al, do you know if this guy (PP aside) might be capable of mentoring the young D (Leddy in particular)??? That's really what I'd like to know.

It's clear and quite obvious that Q and Kitchen don't know WTF they are doing in that regard.
TyCamScore
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
For anyone wanting some criticism from a beat writer...

Off Twitter..
from Chris Kuc
Scouting report on Jamie Kompon from someone who would know: "utterly incompetent in handling power play."

My tweet after...

Why don't we end the mystery...The players may change but Mike Kitchen will still have the power play on his watch.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia

- Al


Hmmmm... seems to mirror comments from a friend who is a die-hard Kings fan and watches the majority of their games:

Tyler Cameron ‏@tycam
@kieledge "‪#Blackhawks‬ name Jamie Kompon assistant coach replacing Mike Haviland." what's the scoop on him? ‪#blackhawks‬ ‪#kings‬

His reply:
Kiel Edge ‏@kieledge
@tycam he ran the powerplay that was about 1-356 all playoffs, not sad to see him go, wore nice suits though.... ‪#goodluckwithhim‬


Clearly better choices out there IMO. The dark cloud continues to roll over the Hawks org.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:11 PM ET
from Chi Tribune: "We are excited to add Jamie as assistant coach and certainly welcome the Stanley Cup pedigree he brings,”

FRONT OFFICE ALREADY APPLYING THEIR SPIN

- Hawkswin

What did you want them to say? "we tried to get better guys and this guy was cheap since we plucked him out of the middle of a garbage heap..."
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:12 PM ET
I think you're being rather belligerent putting words in my mouth considering the part you didn't highlight:
- busmaster


Please, get over it

Like I said, i'm a jerk for being cynical/suspicious of Saad. You're being completely reasonable and rational for thinking he's ready at 19, after being drafted in the 2nd round last year to step in on the top 6 of an ostensibly playoff bound team.

Right.

So let's proceeed.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:13 PM ET
That's a little more than unfair JJ. All Bus has said was if this is a wasted season (right or wrong) that Saad may as well get a year of seasoning under his belt. I don't agree with that idea (he needs time in the A and the Hawks needs someone ready now), but nowhere did Bus tout him as a star or predict a Calder for him. I know you don't like the FO pushing this kid on the fans like he is a savior, but you seem to get awfully testy when his name comes up.

The earlier poster had it right, Saad has become quite the lightning rod on this board for some reason. Kid isn't going to have a chance whenever he arrives in Chicago with some of you guys.

- PhatJoeSki


(A) IT CAN'T BE A WASTED SEASON - not with this core, not with 2 wasted seasons in a row

(B) Why put a kid (Saad) into a situation where he's likely to struggle and failure is a real possibility - let him work in Rockfish and learn how to be a pro. How many talented kids have been ruined by rushing them to the majors, in any sport, instead of getting the required 1,500 at bats in the minors so they no how to succeed and to come out of slumps and become mentally (and physically) tough enough to be major leaguers?

(C) Kid will have every chance with this group - but this group will not sugar coat his weaknesses or failures. Not that he spends time here, but if he's not tough enough to take to criticism, keep him at Rockfish until he is.
JoeHawks88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:14 PM ET
Now that's the splash for the Convention!!
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:14 PM ET
Q begging to be fired.
- JoeHawks88

Well, JJ cited a coach's shelf life is 4-5 years. Q hits 4 years at game 4. Guess he's right on schedule.

28 games in, regardless of a 2-3 month lockout or not.

And I can only wish for a complete house-cleaning by Rocky, though I fear that won't happen.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:16 PM ET
That's a little more than unfair JJ. All Bus has said was if this is a wasted season (right or wrong) that Saad may as well get a year of seasoning under his belt. I don't agree with that idea (he needs time in the A and the Hawks needs someone ready now), but nowhere did Bus tout him as a star or predict a Calder for him. I know you don't like the FO pushing this kid on the fans like he is a savior, but you seem to get awfully testy when his name comes up.

The earlier poster had it right, Saad has become quite the lightning rod on this board for some reason. Kid isn't going to have a chance whenever he arrives in Chicago with some of you guys.

- PhatJoeSki


Not one thing said on this board will have any influence on whether Saad stars or swan dives. Not. One. Thing.

No one wants to see him fail. I hope he has a nice season. Will that be what this team needs? No. That's the point.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:16 PM ET
Please, get over it

Like I said, i'm a jerk for being cynical/suspicious of Saad. You're being completely reasonable and rational for thinking he's ready at 19, after being drafted in the 2nd round last year to step in on the top 6 of an ostensibly playoff bound team.

Right.

So let's proceeed.

- John Jaeckel

Damn you're pessimistic JJ.

Based on all the scouting reports, I don't know how Saad can even begin to be top-6 guy even by the '14-'15 season.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:16 PM ET
You're a jerk for basing your whole point on repeatedly accusing me of saying exactly the opposite of what I actually said.
- busmaster


No, I'm not a jerk. And I don't call names.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:16 PM ET
No, Al, I did see that too --
And you were spot-on with that call (kudos to you my friend!)

I just was hoping that the connection would NOT be someone reviled by another team's fan base, someone that not only we did not know but actually had a track record of success.

Al, do you know if this guy (PP aside) might be capable of mentoring the young D (Leddy in particular)??? That's really what I'd like to know.

It's clear and quite obvious that Q and Kitchen don't know WTF they are doing in that regard.

- savvyone-1


I have no comment on the mentoring question...
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:18 PM ET
Hmmmm... seems to mirror comments from a friend who is a die-hard Kings fan and watches the majority of their games:

Tyler Cameron ‏@tycam
@kieledge "‪#Blackhawks‬ name Jamie Kompon assistant coach replacing Mike Haviland." what's the scoop on him? ‪#blackhawks‬ ‪#kings‬

His reply:
Kiel Edge ‏@kieledge
@tycam he ran the powerplay that was about 1-356 all playoffs, not sad to see him go, wore nice suits though.... ‪#goodluckwithhim‬


Clearly better choices out there IMO. The dark cloud continues to roll over the Hawks org.

- TyCamScore


Better choices??

The choice had to be someone Q. was comfortable with....Above all else imo.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:19 PM ET
The economics are a factor but the Hawks played well under the cap for the entire season....There was no need to worry about pennies because there was about $6 mill in cap space vacant.
- Al



If there's cap space, which there's been going back over a year, there's no reason to play prospects.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:19 PM ET
Better choices??

The choice had to be someone Q. was comfortable with....Above all else imo.

- Al

...and not his replacement, unlike Barry Smith.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:20 PM ET
You might have missed my first tweet on the hire..

As expected for Hawks Asst.- A strong Q. connection and not a big name

On Twitter@AlCimaglia

- Al


Bang on, Al.
djd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Osoyoos, BC
Joined: 02.11.2008

Jul 17 @ 2:22 PM ET
Al,
Jamie sounds like the PERFECT guy for the job.
Q wouldn't want someone that would buck his system or upset his kingdom. Now he's got his perfect little world, surrounded by know-nothings that have career track records of failure. No real need to go out and hire a smart candidate.

I think Q just sealed his fate and will end up hanging by his own petard.
Where is Shakespeare when a guy needs him?

- savvyone-1



"The (Q) universe is unfolding exactly as it should …"

For those of us who have him on the clock.
busmaster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:22 PM ET
No, I'm not a jerk. And I don't call names.
- John Jaeckel


You just said you were one, I was just agreeing.

Seriously, you're not a jerk. But if we're going to play nice, I'll kindly ask you yet again not to put words in my mouth.

Lets move on.
Hawkster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Quebec , QC
Joined: 06.13.2008

Jul 17 @ 2:23 PM ET
If there's cap space, which there's been going back over a year, there's no reason to play prospects.
- John Jaeckel



Unless you have no idea what you're doing.
djd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Osoyoos, BC
Joined: 02.11.2008

Jul 17 @ 2:24 PM ET
28 games, even if there's up to a 2-3 month lockout.
- blackhawk24



That would be my guess too. Let the boys get over their excitemnet of a new season. The first sign of a tailspin and he's gone.
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