Ogi, you know how I feel about the Sharpe contract, but unfortunately his no trade kicked in on July 1st, he will finish his career a Hawk.

Vantel, Luongo can't be sent to Europe without first clearing waivers, he would be claimed and the Nucks would get nothing. Gilis has no leverage. If by some miracle Gilis and Bowman decided to get something done it would be swapping salaries according to each teams needs.

eg. Luongo goes to Hawks, Nucks need a backup. Hawks get Luongo, no longer need Crawford. Luongo 5.33 for six more years and Crawford 2.6 for two more years. Bowman will want to send more salary and needs to move a Dman. Nucks could use a veteran depth Dman. Montador 2.75 for three more years. Total going each way, Nucks 5.33, Hawks 5.34.

The Nucks would fill out their 23 man roster without increasing their cap. Both teams would address their needs. This is the type of deal Bowman will be looking at, I don't see him offering up Bolland or any other core player. Gilis has no leverage and not a lot of options. I would guess Tallon and Burke have been offering a lot less.

Why they call it rumours....would be boring if they got it right everytime.
- Hawkster

Once would be nice...

I just want an actual, bona fide second line center...

...and maybe a reliable goalie.

That is all...
- ArlingtonRob

and a pony, and GI Joe with the Kung Fu grip, and....

Ogi, you know how I feel about the Sharpe contract, but unfortunately his no trade kicked in on July 1st, he will finish his career a Hawk.

Vantel, Luongo can't be sent to Europe without first clearing waivers, he would be claimed and the Nucks would get nothing. Gilis has no leverage. If by some miracle Gilis and Bowman decided to get something done it would be swapping salaries according to each teams needs.

eg. Luongo goes to Hawks, Nucks need a backup. Hawks get Luongo, no longer need Crawford. Luongo 5.33 for six more years and Crawford 2.6 for two more years. Bowman will want to send more salary and needs to move a Dman. Nucks could use a veteran depth Dman. Montador 2.75 for three more years. Total going each way, Nucks 5.33, Hawks 5.34.

The Nucks would fill out their 23 man roster without increasing their cap. Both teams would address their needs. This is the type of deal Bowman will be looking at, I don't see him offering up Bolland or any other core player. Gilis has no leverage and not a lot of options. I would guess Tallon and Burke have been offering a lot less.
- hawksbuzz

Or...FLA gets involved...Lu goes to the Panthers to squander his remaining good years, wins nothing and is forgotten in a decade.

Most likely outcome...

and a pony, and GI Joe with the Kung Fu grip, and....
- NewToHockey

eeewwww...kung fu grip!



I'm old enough to remember my GI Joes....from all branches of the military...mid to late 60's...

...ahhhh, the salad days..

I just want an actual, bona fide second line center...

...and maybe a reliable goalie.

That is all...
- ArlingtonRob

Said it before, say it again...

Leddy, Kruger, Emery, and a 2nd for Stastny and Giguere...Done.

Ogi, you know how I feel about the Sharpe contract, but unfortunately his no trade kicked in on July 1st, he will finish his career a Hawk.

Vantel, Luongo can't be sent to Europe without first clearing waivers, he would be claimed and the Nucks would get nothing. Gilis has no leverage. If by some miracle Gilis and Bowman decided to get something done it would be swapping salaries according to each teams needs.

eg. Luongo goes to Hawks, Nucks need a backup. Hawks get Luongo, no longer need Crawford. Luongo 5.33 for six more years and Crawford 2.6 for two more years. Bowman will want to send more salary and needs to move a Dman. Nucks could use a veteran depth Dman. Montador 2.75 for three more years. Total going each way, Nucks 5.33, Hawks 5.34.

The Nucks would fill out their 23 man roster without increasing their cap. Both teams would address their needs. This is the type of deal Bowman will be looking at, I don't see him offering up Bolland or any other core player. Gilis has no leverage and not a lot of options. I would guess Tallon and Burke have been offering a lot less.
- hawksbuzz

This is exactly why I could see Crawford, Frolik and a prospect like Pirri. Gillis could claim to be dealing from a position of strength to get another center in the system and a former 20 goal scorer, all while gaining cap space.

Edit: I also don't see any way anyone trades for Montador until they're pretty sure he's healthy.

Said it before, say it again...

Leddy, Kruger, Emery, and a 2nd for Stastny and Giguere...Done.
- Ogilthorpe2

Ya know Ogi....that would make me a happy Hawk fan right there...

Isn't waivers a dangerous route if Gillis wants to avoid Lu going to a western rival?

I guess your not serious am I correct?
- ArlingtonRob

Cant send him down with a no move clause.

Once would be nice...
- ArlingtonRob

Like the Eklund rumor chart?

Like the Eklund rumor chart?
- Hawkster

He did predict Crawford would replace Turco by Thanksgiving a few years ago before the season started. It took about a month longer than that, but he was essentially correct.

Too young for the 70's, thank god! I missed out on the disco era.
- EKolb13

High School baby!!!

Ughhh...couldn't pay me to do that over again...

Although concerts at the Amphitheater and old Chicago Stadium were fantastic!

He did predict Crawford would replace Turco by Thanksgiving a few years ago before the season started. It took about a month longer than that, but he was essentially correct.
- NewToHockey

Didn't everyone watching the Hawks that year predict that one?

He did predict Crawford would replace Turco by Thanksgiving a few years ago before the season started. It took about a month longer than that, but he was essentially correct.
- NewToHockey

Guess that was worth $20

Guess that was worth $20
- Hawkster

Um, that one was visible to everyone.

Um, that one was visible to everyone.
- NewToHockey

Said it before, say it again...

Leddy, Kruger, Emery, and a 2nd for Stastny and Giguere...Done.
- Ogilthorpe2

We agree on this one!
Cant believe you didnt iclude sharp?

Or...FLA gets involved...Lu goes to the Panthers to squander his remaining good years, wins nothing and is forgotten in a decade.

Most likely outcome...
- ArlingtonRob

Agree, the Hawks are Gilis last choice, all Tallon has to do is come reasonably close to what the Hawks offer. If Tallon drives the price up, Bowman should walk away and give Crow a shot.

This is exactly why I could see Crawford, Frolik and a prospect like Pirri. Gillis could claim to be dealing from a position of strength to get another center in the system and a former 20 goal scorer, all while gaining cap space.

Edit: I also don't see any way anyone trades for Montador until they're pretty sure he's healthy.
- NewToHockey

He has declared himself healthy and is in training.

Agree, the Hawks are Gilis last choice, all Tallon has to do is come reasonably close to what the Hawks offer. If Tallon drives the price up, Bowman should walk away and give Crow a shot.
- hawksbuzz

Or...pull off Ogi's trade and run with Giguere in net...

...I could live with that.

High School baby!!!

Ughhh...couldn't pay me to do that over again...

Although concerts at the Amphitheater and old Chicago Stadium were fantastic!
- ArlingtonRob

Amp was fun....saw foghat and ali vs norton......nuttin like folding chaiirs launched when decision didnt go to norton

Agree, the Hawks are Gilis last choice, all Tallon has to do is come reasonably close to what the Hawks offer. If Tallon drives the price up, Bowman should walk away and give Crow a shot.
- hawksbuzz

Or...pull off Ogi's trade and run with Giguere in net...

...I could live with that.


Or...FLA gets involved...Lu goes to the Panthers to squander his remaining good years, wins nothing and is forgotten in a decade.

Most likely outcome...
- ArlingtonRob

I stil think FLA is the likely destination. Panthers always need to hit the salary floor, Lu has a history with FLA, and Gillis wants him out of the Western Conference.

Then again...I'm just a fan, what do I know.

hockeyinsiderr

NHL source has #CONFIRMED me #CANUCKS have 2 year 12M$ offer ON THE table for #DOAN >> Ball in your court Shane.


Oh, oh.....just got interesting.
- Hawkster

Lol hockey insiderr.... Even though the canucks have the 10% until the season starts thats really banking on freeing up at least 3mil more (in addition to the 3 mil they have available. If they can't move Lou they would just continue to further handcuff themselves with their personel as well as with the Luongo situation.

That last post didn't work out...cut and paste failure...

Said it before, say it again...

Leddy, Kruger, Emery, and a 2nd for Stastny and Giguere...Done.
- Ogilthorpe2

No Shawn Lalonde? What gives?