Its probably the Pens.
- NYRPowerPlay

Or the Islanders

On snyrangersblog.com it says rumor has it an eastern conference team offered Doan a 4 yr deal worth over 30 mil... I'd love to have Doan but thats a steep price!
- pcjr307

In the last three years he has averaged 55 points per year. He's a very good player, but a four year deal with a cap hit of $7.5 million per is absurd for a player in his mid-30s, who is obviously on the decline.

In the last three years he has averaged 55 points per year. He's a very good player, but a four year deal with a cap hit of $7.5 million per is absurd for a player in his mid-30s, who is obviously on the decline.
- Pete V

Could be the only way to steal Doan away from PHX, while its still possible before a new CBA happens.

Or the Islanders
- hockeypunk36

They could be that desperate.

In the last three years he has averaged 55 points per year. He's a very good player, but a four year deal with a cap hit of $7.5 million per is absurd for a player in his mid-30s, who is obviously on the decline.
- Pete V

Is ridiculous.

In the last three years he has averaged 55 points per year. He's a very good player, but a four year deal with a cap hit of $7.5 million per is absurd for a player in his mid-30s, who is obviously on the decline.
- Pete V

I'd almost rather pay him 18 mil over 2 years because at that point, its a lot easier to plan for 2 seasons. The four years, I mean by the end of that he could be a 20-30 point player and have trouble retaining your own guys.

Some teams could really be (frank)ed if the cap drops only a few million and there's no amnesty.

Offer Semin the league minimum plus bonuses equal to what he wants on a per shift basis. This way when Torts sits him it will lower our Cap hit. On Nash, what if it is not only personal with Howson but a few other GM's as well? Not a very profitable business model for the CBJ's.

Or the Islanders
- hockeypunk36

I have a feeling it's the Rangers or Toronto. Seems like something they would do.

I have a feeling it's the Rangers or Toronto. Seems like something they would do.
- hawks101010

God I hope Sather isnt having the bad contract itch.

God I hope Sather isnt having the bad contract itch.
- NYRPowerPlay

He seems to have gotten his crap together since the Gomez and Drury contracts. Plus MSG chanted for his firing one year, I think that snapped him out of it.

On snyrangersblog.com it says rumor has it an eastern conference team offered Doan a 4 yr deal worth over 30 mil... I'd love to have Doan but thats a steep price!
- pcjr307

Probably some team that wants to hit the cap floor. The Isles, Panthers, Jets, and Hurricanes are still a ways away from the floor.

Probably some team that wants to hit the cap floor. The Isles, Panthers, Jets, and Hurricanes are still a ways away from the floor.
- _Zippy_

hurricanes makes sense. they've been trying to spend a lot of money this offseason and missed out on nash and parise and like you said, they need to hit the floor.

hurricanes makes sense. they've been trying to spend a lot of money this offseason and missed out on nash and parise and like you said, they need to hit the floor.
- rangerdanger94

Isles probably offered a 4 year 40 million dollar deal.

Is ridiculous.
- bodiva88

i think it bunch of crap.nobody will offer him Nash money

Isles probably offered a 4 year 40 million dollar deal.
- _Zippy_

ABSOLUTELY!! sounds like them..Dipietro is coming of the books soon(not)

In order to score 50 points, however, he will need to play on one of the Top 2 lines, and possibly get some powerplay time as well. The biggest thing that will prevent him to getting back to that level is that the Rangers have added talent, and his offensive role is likely to diminish as a result of that.

I think he is capable of tallying between 50-60 points, but I am unsure whether he will be in the position to do so. If he plays on the 3rd line, the more realistic expectation may be 40-45 points.
- Pete V

I beleve that even last year if he had gotten the opportunities
that stepan got, he would have put up simlar or
better numbers. No one is going to score much playing with
Boyle.

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Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

3-contracts limites to 5 years 4-no more salary arbitration. 5- entry-level contract 5 years instead of 3.
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NHL proposal to players: 1-reduce players hockey related revenues to 46% from 57 %. 2-10 seasons in NHL before being UFA.

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Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

3-contracts limites to 5 years 4-no more salary arbitration. 5- entry-level contract 5 years instead of 3.
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1h Renaud P Lavoie Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

NHL proposal to players: 1-reduce players hockey related revenues to 46% from 57 %. 2-10 seasons in NHL before being UFA.
- _Zippy_

Not a fan of it.

1 - Dont know much about the revenues so I wont really comment on that.
2 - Instead of 10 seasons, how about a player cannot become a UFA until the age of 25.
3 - 5 years for players still designated as RFA, 7 years for players who are UFA; players and teams should be able to work out player and/or team options for 1 year respectively.
4 - Players should have the right for salary arbitration
5 - 3 years is fine for entry level, 5 years would make it more difficult for lottery teams to reach the cap floor, wasting inflated contracts.

My addition:
6 - A players salary cannot decrease by more than 10% from year to year.

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Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

3-contracts limites to 5 years 4-no more salary arbitration. 5- entry-level contract 5 years instead of 3.
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1h Renaud P Lavoie Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

NHL proposal to players: 1-reduce players hockey related revenues to 46% from 57 %. 2-10 seasons in NHL before being UFA.
- _Zippy_

Time to find a new hobby guys, as it doesn't look like there will be any hockey being played this winter.

The owners have certainly dug in.

Time to find a new hobby guys, as it doesn't look like there will be any hockey being played this winter.

The owners have certainly dug in.
- TheMessiah94

This is just one half of the battle. The NHLPA still has to offer their proposal. The owners would be dumb not to throw out there what they want. The goal is to hopefully meet in the middle somewhere. I wouldn't give up hope yet. Negotiating still needs to commence.

Not a fan of it.

1 - Dont know much about the revenues so I wont really comment on that.
2 - Instead of 10 seasons, how about a player cannot become a UFA until the age of 25.
3 - 5 years for players still designated as RFA, 7 years for players who are UFA; players and teams should be able to work out player and/or team options for 1 year respectively.
4 - Players should have the right for salary arbitration
5 - 3 years is fine for entry level, 5 years would make it more difficult for lottery teams to reach the cap floor, wasting inflated contracts.

My addition:
6 - A players salary cannot decrease by more than 10% from year to year.
- NYRPowerPlay

1. agreed
2. i think the point is to make players RFAs as long as possible. 25 is younger than the current 27 required.
3. i think 5 or 6 would be good. 7 is stretching it and you can still frontload those (see pronger)
4. agreed
5. i agree. unless they increase the max money the entry level deal is, having a player play for <$1,000,000 for 5 years is pretty harsh especially since some players deserve more after 3.
6. i feel like that's too simple. i think they need to come up with a more complicated formula to stop these contracts.

1. agreed
2. i think the point is to make players RFAs as long as possible. 25 is younger than the current 27 required.
3. i think 5 or 6 would be good. 7 is stretching it and you can still frontload those (see pronger)
4. agreed
5. i agree. unless they increase the max money the entry level deal is, having a player play for <$1,000,000 for 5 years is pretty harsh especially since some players deserve more after 3.
6. i feel like that's too simple. i think they need to come up with a more complicated formula to stop these contracts.
- rangerdanger94

2 - Since contracts will be capped, keeping players longer as RFAs wont matter.

3 & 6 - Sometimes its something as simple as that which is all thats needed. How do you circumvent something concrete like 'salary cant decrease more than 10% from year to year'? With a cap max of 7 years to a contract, lets say you start out paying 10,000,000..

YR1: 10m, YR2: 9m, YR3: 8.1m, YR4: 7.29m, YR5: 6.56m, YR6: 5.9m, YR7: 5.314m

Applying the 7 year cap, plus the 10% max year to year decrease in salary... this player would still have a cap hit of 7.45m AAV.

1. agreed
2. i think the point is to make players RFAs as long as possible. 25 is younger than the current 27 required.
3. i think 5 or 6 would be good. 7 is stretching it and you can still frontload those (see pronger)
4. agreed
5. i agree. unless they increase the max money the entry level deal is, having a player play for <$1,000,000 for 5 years is pretty harsh especially since some players deserve more after 3.
6. i feel like that's too simple. i think they need to come up with a more complicated formula to stop these contracts.
- rangerdanger94

I've been saying a percentage ratio between salary and cap hit, and the percentages change as the league could have certain limits for certain cap hits. For example, by limit, I mean a players salary in any given year cannot exceed 140% and not be below 60% of the AAV. Let's say a player signs a six year 30 million dollar deal. With an AAV of 5 million, he can be paid no more than 7 million and no less than 3 million in any given year of his contract. Obviously, the percentages would have to fluctuate and higher cap hits will have tighter percentages, which will make front loading virtually impossible.

i also think part of the problem is the signing bonus. $10 million for signing a contract is way too much when the cap hit should be around 7 mil.

For the people freaking about the owners hard line, just remember, its negotiatons. You have to start somewhere & they have all the power (as does any large company over most Unions) & will try & push down the union or even break it. But this time the players have Donald Fehr, hopefully he can push back & use some of his wisdom from decades as the head of the MLB union.

Also remember, these are billionaires-fighting millionaires, mindboggling stuff. The owners can afford another work stoppage more than the players can. But the league cannot survive any long term strife this time, not a chance.