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aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 20 @ 6:33 PM ET
link?
- Crimsoninja


lmao... what link? Dolan wont be at the owners meetings. Hes too busy figuring out what to do with the Knicks.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:34 PM ET
lmao... what link? Dolan wont be at the owners meetings. Hes too busy figuring out what to do with the Knicks.
- aecliptic

so what are you basing your comments on?
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 20 @ 6:37 PM ET
so what are you basing your comments on?
- Crimsoninja


My knowledge of how big a douche Dolan is.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:39 PM ET
My knowledge of how big a douche Dolan is.
- aecliptic

lol
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:45 PM ET
You know what's funny is that last offseason the Rangers and Flyers both made big FA signings, Richards loves NY and had success while Bryz basically regretted signing in Philly....was Weber conscious for the last 12 months?
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 20 @ 6:47 PM ET
You know what's funny is that last offseason the Rangers and Flyers both made big FA signings, Richards loves NY and had success while Bryz basically regretted signing in Philly....was Weber conscious for the last 12 months?
- cranford93


Well the point is, you get the best Dman in the league... and hope that he helps the rest of the defense and goalie out.

With the trade for Schenn and maybe the addition of Weber, that D could right itself and Bryz will be the benefactor.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 20 @ 6:48 PM ET
My knowledge of how big a douche Dolan is.
- aecliptic


cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:50 PM ET
Well the point is, you get the best Dman in the league... and hope that he helps the goalie out.
- aecliptic

He better block 20 shots a game!
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 6:50 PM ET

- jimbro83

Those choppers can't be real
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 20 @ 6:51 PM ET
Those choppers can't be real
- TPC


Theyre ivory from african elephant tusks.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 6:52 PM ET
You know what's funny is that last offseason the Rangers and Flyers both made big FA signings, Richards loves NY and had success while Bryz basically regretted signing in Philly....was Weber conscious for the last 12 months?
- cranford93

I love Weber and think he would have been great in New York, but I am not to upset he chose elsewhere. That wasn't a big need for the Rangers. With Erixon on the way this year and hopefully McIlrath in a year or so, Rangers should focus on trying to upgrade the top 6.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 20 @ 6:53 PM ET
I love Weber and think he would have been great in New York, but I am not to upset he chose elsewhere. That wasn't a big need for the Rangers. With Erixon on the way this year and hopefully McIlrath in a year or so, Rangers should focus on trying to upgrade the top 6.
- TPC


See my offer sheet submission for: Kane, E. (WPG)

6 year contract.

yr 1: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 2: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 3: 3m salary
yr 4: 3m salary
yr 5: 3m salary
yr 6: 3m salary

No way WPG can afford to pay Kane 9m if the season starts locked out.
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:56 PM ET
I love Weber and think he would have been great in New York, but I am not to upset he chose elsewhere. That wasn't a big need for the Rangers. With Erixon on the way this year and hopefully McIlrath in a year or so, Rangers should focus on trying to upgrade the top 6.
- TPC

No, your 100% right, we didn't have a dire need for him but the way it played out is comical, I am still liking my idea of sending Vorocek an offer sheet, Philly can't match without jamming themselves up, so either way it's a win, plus if we can get him for under 3.4 million it's a steal, compensation wise and $ value.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 6:56 PM ET
See my offer sheet submission for: Kane, E. (WPG)

6 year contract.

yr 1: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 2: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 3: 3m salary
yr 4: 3m salary
yr 5: 3m salary
yr 6: 3m salary

No way WPG can afford to pay Kane 9m if the season starts locked out.

- aecliptic

That game is tricky though. You start pissing off other GMs it could come back to bite the Rangers with players like McDonagh, Stepan, Kreider etc, down the road.
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:57 PM ET
See my offer sheet submission for: Kane, E. (WPG)

6 year contract.

yr 1: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 2: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 3: 3m salary
yr 4: 3m salary
yr 5: 3m salary
yr 6: 3m salary

No way WPG can afford to pay Kane 9m if the season starts locked out.

- aecliptic

They've been aggressive in their stance that they'll match anything, again worth the try, you can either steal a player or jam up the other team
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 6:58 PM ET
No, your 100% right, we didn't have a dire need for him but the way it played out is comical, I am still liking my idea of sending Vorocek an offer sheet, Philly can't match without jamming themselves up, so either way it's a win, plus if we can get him for under 3.4 million it's a steal, compensation wise and $ value.
- cranford93

That is true...they are kind of in a holding pattern now til next Wednesday. Might be a chance for teams to pounce on him.
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:59 PM ET
That game is tricky though. You start pissing off other GMs it could come back to bite the Rangers with players like McDonagh, Stepan, Kreider etc, down the road.
- TPC

That's not a chance I'd like to take, Philly does it and Simmonds wouldn't get an offer sheet next season but we do it and it open season on Mack Truck.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
That's not a chance I'd like to take, Philly does it and Simmonds wouldn't get an offer sheet next season but we do it and it open season on Mack Truck.
- cranford93

Hopefully Mac Truck is locked up at some point during next season. Give this kid his money
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 20 @ 7:14 PM ET
Hopefully Mac Truck is locked up at some point during next season. Give this kid his money
- TPC


If Sather is smart, he will be working on extensions for Stepan and McDonagh as soon as this crap with Nash, et al., is over with.
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 20 @ 7:27 PM ET
See my offer sheet submission for: Kane, E. (WPG)

6 year contract.

yr 1: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 2: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 3: 3m salary
yr 4: 3m salary
yr 5: 3m salary
yr 6: 3m salary

No way WPG can afford to pay Kane 9m if the season starts locked out.

- aecliptic


That's cheap -- 5.33 cap hit for the kid? I think they match...
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 7:57 PM ET
That's cheap -- 5.33 cap hit for the kid? I think they match...
- evitageN

By the way Nick, going to see The Dark Knight Rises tonight at 11. I am pumped
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 20 @ 7:58 PM ET
new blog, lockout coming?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 20 @ 8:42 PM ET
Just read Weber's comments about living in Manhattan, these guys a just flat out cowards and can't face the pressure, how does Philadelphia appeal to you compared to the City, players obviously don't take fan bases into account either, good luck if Nashville passes(doubt it though)
- HankdaTank

Have you ever visited other cities? New York isn't a place many people would choose to raise a family. Even lifelong New Yorkers sometimes move to Jersey or the Northern burbs to raise their kids. He doesn't want to live in Manhattan--it isn't a lifestyle that appeals to lots of people. And he felt living in Westchester would isolate him from his team mates. Instead of getting your feelers hurt because he's self aware enough to know he'd be unhappy, be glad he didn't come and be miserable.

Other cities aren't remotely like Manhattan as PLACES TO LIVE. He wasn't talking about fan experience or the team. It isn't pressure. It's quality of life. I love living in the city but I know well enough I wouldn't love living in THAT city. Sorry--but the level of noise, congestion, sheer number of people is on another level from any other U.S. city. He isn't even someone who really wants to live IN a city. In Philadelphia the team mostly live in Voorhees and near there. No city living, no isolation from team.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 20 @ 8:45 PM ET
See my offer sheet submission for: Kane, E. (WPG)

6 year contract.

yr 1: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 2: 1m salary, 9m signing bonus
yr 3: 3m salary
yr 4: 3m salary
yr 5: 3m salary
yr 6: 3m salary

No way WPG can afford to pay Kane 9m if the season starts locked out.

- aecliptic


By the way, keep in mind an offer sheet compensation is calculated as the entire value of the contract divided by five years.

That deal would be 6.4 million. Still stays within the range of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, but just keep that in mind. If you went off of last years compensation, it would cost you an extra first.
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