well it really had nothing to do with my point that the offer Pete mentioned from the rangers sucks
- Crimsoninja

you said that the jackets could probably get more for nash. and i said you were right, they got more from the sens but nash would waive his nmc to their. so i'm pretty sure i stayed on point.

60pt player
- Crimsoninja

51 in his second season... I see him gettign 60 next year and improving from there. He showed flashes last year of being our number 1 center immediately.. I tend to think in 5 years our core is Stepan, Kreider, McD I am higher on Stepan than most.

you said that the jackets could probably get more for nash. and i said you were right, they got more from the sens but nash would waive his nmc to their. so i'm pretty sure i stayed on point.
- tomburton99

why are we even talking about offers from a team not on his list of approved destinations?

why are we even talking about offers from a team not on his list of approved destinations?
- Crimsoninja

just say you are right to an extent. anyhow. will homer include scheen or couts instead of trading away four 1st round pick?

51 in his second season... I see him gettign 60 next year and improving from there. He showed flashes last year of being our number 1 center immediately.. I tend to think in 5 years our core is Stepan, Kreider, McD I am higher on Stepan than most.
- mrhattrick27

Of those 3, I can confidently say that I see McDonagh with the highest ceiling. Guaranteed once he becomes the defensive monster we expect, he will become a 40 point defenseman on top of it.

Kreider and Stepan are pretty close. However, I think Kreider edges him out simply because he has been a winner at ever point in his career. Guy played his first NHL games in the playoffs and did phenomenal, where as Stepan choked. I dont think Kreider will be as good defensively as Stepan, but offensively I think high ceiling is much higher because his skating ability is at a higher level than Stepan's.

Of those 3, I can confidently say that I see McDonagh with the highest ceiling. Guaranteed once he becomes the defensive monster we expect, he will become a 40 point defenseman on top of it.

Kreider and Stepan are pretty close. However, I think Kreider edges him out simply because he has been a winner at ever point in his career. Guy played his first NHL games in the playoffs and did phenomenal, where as Stepan choked. I dont think Kreider will be as good defensively as Stepan, but offensively I think high ceiling is much higher because his skating ability is at a higher level than Stepan's.
- aecliptic

I agree Kreider >> Stepan. But Stepan will be untouchable after another season or 2 IMO.

EDIT: And it isn't blind homerism. I am not as high on Erixon as some of you are and I'd easily move him in a package for a forward.

just say you are right to an extent. anyhow. will homer include scheen or couts instead of trading away four 1st round pick?
- tomburton99

sure hope not

Hell no on Dan Boyle...hell friggen no
- MidnightMarauder

Why?

sure hope not
- Crimsoninja

Theres a much better chance of him moving Couturier than Schenn... simply because hes not going to break up the brothers.

Theres a much better chance of him moving Couturier than Schenn... simply because hes not going to break up the brothers.
- aecliptic

you honestly believe that?

you honestly believe that?
- Crimsoninja

Weber takes them right up to the cap and they still have to sign Voracek plus next season Simmonds is an RFA, I hope the cap comes down just to see that scramble.

Rangers should throw an offer sheet at Voracek, love to see him wearing a Blueshirt.

you honestly believe that?
- Crimsoninja

Im not saying he will, Im only saying that if someone is moved, it will be Couturier before either of the Schenn's.

Weber takes them right up to the cap and they still have to sign Voracek plus next season Simmonds is an RFA, I hope the cap comes down just to see that scramble.
- cranford93

I'd sign Simmonds to a 4 year, $4.5m per offers sheet.

Weber takes them right up to the cap and they still have to sign Voracek plus next season Simmonds is an RFA, I hope the cap comes down just to see that scramble.

Rangers should throw an offer sheet at Voracek, love to see him wearing a Blueshirt.
- cranford93

Id rather offer sheet E. Kane. Give him 5 years, 6m AAV. Might seem like a lot for him, but it will pay off in the long run.

Id rather offer sheet E. Kane. Give him 5 years, 6m AAV. Might seem like a lot for him, but it will pay off in the long run.
- aecliptic

i still think the jets would match almost any offer sheet hat kane recieved.

i still think the jets would match almost any offer sheet hat kane recieved.
- tomburton99

Send Philadelphia a taste of their own medicine, for Voracek who is 22, 5 yr 16 million dollar offer sheet would cost us a 2nd round pick.....well worth it.

Lockout coming, NHL is f'd

1. NHL proposal as applied to 2011-12 would have resulted in 24-percent reduction in player compensation;

— Larry Brooks(@NYP_Brooksie) July 20, 2012

2. Under NHL proposal, 2011-12 cap would have been 50.8M with floor of $38.8M

— Larry Brooks(@NYP_Brooksie) July 20, 2012

3. Under NHL proposal, player compensation would be at lowest since 2002-03.

— Larry Brooks(@NYP_Brooksie) July 20, 2012

Send Philadelphia a taste of their own medicine, for Voracek who is 22, 5 yr 16 million dollar offer sheet would cost us a 2nd round pick.....well worth it.
- cranford93

With the cap potentially on the way down (or staying as is), I think making a brash move like that might not be good for us moving forward.

We need to resign Stepan, Hagelin and McDonagh next year. Wouldnt be a good idea for us. On top of the fact that we still need to resign DZ right now.

Send Philadelphia a taste of their own medicine, for Voracek who is 22, 5 yr 16 million dollar offer sheet would cost us a 2nd round pick.....well worth it.
- cranford93

you realize it is also Sather's medicine right?
only difference is Weber didnt sign cuz he didnt want to play in your city.

Lockout coming, NHL is f'd

1. NHL proposal as applied to 2011-12 would have resulted in 24-percent reduction in player compensation;

— Larry Brooks(@NYP_Brooksie) July 20, 2012

2. Under NHL proposal, 2011-12 cap would have been 50.8M with floor of $38.8M

— Larry Brooks(@NYP_Brooksie) July 20, 2012

3. Under NHL proposal, player compensation would be at lowest since 2002-03.

— Larry Brooks(@NYP_Brooksie) July 20, 2012

- cranford93

They cant lower it to 50 million, that would absolutely SCREW 1/3 of the NHL big market teams.

you realize it is also Sather's medicine right?
only difference is Weber didnt sign cuz he didnt want to play in your city.
- Crimsoninja

Rangers were trying trade for Weber,big difference

Rangers were trying trade for Weber,big difference
- cranford93

they were prepared to put in an offer sheet bro
but he told them dont bother

Rangers were trying trade for Weber,big difference
- cranford93

Nah they were but I think like philly they were gonna offer sheet. I don't see why people are female doging. Its there for a reason. Smart by Holmgren and I see nothing wrong with it. Only franchise that should scorn him is the Preds and rightfully so.

they put in an offer sheet bro
- Crimsoninja

I don't know if thats confirmed but highly likely. I think he had 2 in front of him but I dont think it was this big city bullpoop hes spoonfeedign the media. I truly think Flyers blew the Rangers out of the water with that insane contract.

I don't know if thats confirmed but highly likely. I think he had 2 in front of him but I dont think it was this big city bullpoop hes spoonfeedign the media. I truly think Flyers blew the Rangers out of the water with that insane contract.
- mrhattrick27

The $ isnt insane, its the way its structured that is. Its all the bonuses and guaranteed $ made Weber salivate. He knew pretty much no other team would put in an offer like that.