goddamnit i need to email Homer and let him know about G, Schenn and Couturier

he's too busy offering 14 year deals while only thinking about next year that he probably forgot about those other guys!
- Crimsoninja

cool, make sure you include in your e-mail, that without goaltending you can have Montreal's defense during their 70's dynasty and it still won't amount to much.

if you honestly believe that Holmgren did this without desperation, i guess what they say is true about all flyers fans.

you'll buy anything as long as it benefits the team you root for.

ok you have no scoring
end of story
- Crimsoninja

6-0 record, despite the lack of scoring ring any bells?

Besides, don't you have a thread to rejoin that is celebrating this offer sheet; why are you here?

ok you have no scoring
end of story
- Crimsoninja

with all do respect, and I mean all do respect

we had no trouble scoring on Brzygalov this past season.

Here's the catch though; Sather wouldn't make this kind of a deal. Unwritten rules are as important as written. Dirtbag deals have a price tag on it that can't be seen. Karma exists in all walks of life.
- MidnightMarauder

Why even have Restricted Free Agency then? The only leverage that RFAs have is the offer sheet, so if it is not going to be used, might as well just get rid of restricted status.

ok you have no scoring
end of story
- Crimsoninja

You don't need much scoring when you're not letting in 10 goals a game.

Why even have Restricted Free Agency then? The only leverage that RFAs have is the offer sheet, so if it is not going to be used, might as well just get rid of restricted status.
- Pete V

you know what they should do?

don't change anything, announce they are playing under the current CBA until hell freezes over and stop this nonsense every 7-8 years

Why even have Restricted Free Agency then? The only leverage that RFAs have is the offer sheet, so if it is not going to be used, might as well just get rid of restricted status.
- Pete V

it is primarily used to gauge salaries against similar players around the league, especially during arbitration cases.

Rarely do you see offer sheets handed out; when was the last time a player was signed to an offer sheet, 2007?

you know what they should do?

don't change anything, announce they are playing under the current CBA until hell freezes over and stop this nonsense every 7-8 years
- jimbro83

the league needs to lockout, get rid of bettman, contract several struggling franchises and abolish these absurd contracts for good.

the league is in a constant state of financial upheaval and there is no end in sight.

6-0 record, despite the lack of scoring ring any bells?

Besides, don't you have a thread to rejoin that is celebrating this offer sheet; why are you here?
- MidnightMarauder

Bryz is probably the worst goalie ever!! i guess his solid career and best player of in the entire NHL of an entire month late last year were complete and utter flukes.

and i am sorry if my presence here makes you uncomfortable. i just get a kick out of the holier than thou routine going on

Bryz is probably the worst goalie ever!! i guess his solid career and best player of in the entire NHL of an entire month late last year were complete and utter flukes.

and i am sorry if my presence here makes you uncomfortable. i just get a kick out of the holier than thou routine going on
- Crimsoninja

You do realize your only argument at the moment is that he was player of the month for one month. Khabibulin and Lehtonen were named the stars of the month for October as well.

honestly, if they want to get rid of these contracts all they have to do is make it a rule that salaries can only increase as the contract goes on and can only increase either 5% or 10%. salary cannot decrease at all.

that, along with limiting contracts to 5-7 years, would fix everything.

if they league wants to punish teams that dealt out these contracts... let the players keep the contracts but make the cap hit the sum of the first 5 years of the contract divided by 5 for the whole contract.

The bright side is that this Weber news actually gives us something to talk about.

Bryz is probably the worst goalie ever!! i guess his solid career and best player of in the entire NHL of an entire month late last year were complete and utter flukes.

and i am sorry if my presence here makes you uncomfortable. i just get a kick out of the holier than thou routine going on
- Crimsoninja

Not the worst goalie ever but clearly one of the worst on playoff caliber teams. One great month out of seven says what about how good he was for the team last season?

Solid career, he had two good seasons in Phoenix before the Flyers signed him to yet another stupid ass contract.

Ease up on the Miller comparisons too; Miller is lightyears better than "Bryz".

You can stay as long as you want just don't cry about non-Flyers fans thinking this deal is asinine.

You do realize your only argument at the moment is that he was player of the month for one month. Khabibulin and Lehtonen were named the stars of the month for October as well.
- _Zippy_

hmmm.... maybe those 2 Vezina candidate years in Phoenix could also be added to my argument

you know what they should do?

don't change anything, announce they are playing under the current CBA until hell freezes over and stop this nonsense every 7-8 years
- jimbro83

You know what I like, Jimbo? Loopholes. Because loopholes generally make things more fun, and benefit the smart franchises that know how to exploit them.

You know what I like, Jimbo? Loopholes. Because loopholes generally make things more fun, and benefit the smart franchises that know how to exploit them.
- Pete V

it's not a matter of being a smart franchise... it's about being a wealthy one. every team knows how to exploit this loophole but only the rich ones can afford to do so.

hmmm.... maybe those 3 Vezina candidate years in Phoenix could also be added to my argument
- Crimsoninja

Mike Smith, a career-long scrub, was also one of the best goalies around last year.

Most goalies look good out in Phoenix; that really isn't saying much about bryzgalov.

Mike Smith, a career-long scrub, was also one of the best goalies around last year.

Most goalies look good out in Phoenix; that really isn't saying much about bryzgalov.
- MidnightMarauder

name 1 goalie thats been consistently good the last 4 years besides Hank and Rinne

not saying Bryz has... just pointing out how much success at that position can fluctuate. and is tied in so directly with team defense

hmmm.... maybe those 2 Vezina candidate years in Phoenix could also be added to my argument
- Crimsoninja

It helps with Phoenix's style. Philly is more wide open, he obviously struggled in that regard. The fact of the matter is, he is an incosistent goaltender prone to playing like he is made of swiss cheese at times. There's time when he is really great, but he's either atrocious or really good.

name 1 goalie thats been consistently good the last 4 years besides Hank and Rinne

not saying Bryz has... just pointing out how much success at that position can fluctuate. and is tied in so directly with team defense
- Crimsoninja

Regular season-wise: Fleury, Price(he played for a really bad team lately), Quick(the last three seasons), Thomas.

It wasn't that Bryzgalov was bad, he was embarrassingly bad except in March.

name 1 goalie thats been consistently good the last 4 years besides Hank and Rinne

not saying Bryz has... just pointing out how much success at that position can fluctuate. and is tied in so directly with team defense
- Crimsoninja

Thomas...

Quick has sustained some decent numbers as well.

It helps with Phoenix's style. Philly is more wide open, he obviously struggled in that regard. The fact of the matter is, he is an incosistent goaltender prone to playing like he is made of swiss cheese at times. There's time when he is really great, but he's either atrocious or really good.
- _Zippy_

agreed. so an adjustment period was to be expected.
and what happened as soon as they brought in Grossmann and tightened up a bit on defense? Bryz goes on one of the best streaks of his career until getting hurt in April

Regular season-wise: Fleury, Price(he played for a really bad team lately), Quick(the last three seasons), Thomas.

It wasn't that Bryzgalov was bad, he was embarrassingly bad except in March.
- MidnightMarauder

so at best 5 consistent goalies in the entire league

it's not a matter of being a smart franchise... it's about being a wealthy one. every team knows how to exploit this loophole but only the rich ones can afford to do so.
- rangerdanger94

The Minnesota Wild just gave out twin $100 million contracts. Were they known to be a wealthy franchise? The New Jersey Devils gave Kovalchuk the contract they did. The Florida Panthers overpaid for every decent UFA on the market last year. The Buffalo Sabres signed Leino and Erhoff to absurd contracts.

There are not too many teams that can cry poor anymore. And besides, there are always a few teams that figure it out before everyone else does. The Red Wings broke the barrier when it came to the frontloaders. But I do agree, once a loophole is exploited, it does become somewhat of a copy cat league.

And for the record, I would have done the same exact thing that Holmgren did, because my obligation is to my club, and not to the greater health of the league as a whole. If you don't like the rules, by all means change them, but I would never operate under a different set of rules than everybody else.

The Minnesota Wild just gave out twin $100 million contracts. Were they known to be a wealthy franchise? The New Jersey Devils gave Kovalchuk the contract they did. The Florida Panthers overpaid for every decent UFA on the market last year. The Buffalo Sabres signed Leino and Erhoff to absurd contracts.

There are not too many teams that can cry poor anymore. And besides, there are always a few teams that figure it out before everyone else does. The Red Wings broke the barrier when it came to the frontloaders. But I do agree, once a loophole is exploited, it does become somewhat of a copy cat league.

And for the record, I would have done the same exact thing that Holmgren did, because my obligation is to my club, and not to the greater health of the league as a whole. If you don't like the rules, by all means change them, but I would never operate under a different set of rules than everybody else.
- Pete V