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Eskin is a very reputable journalist. - LordStanley88
Yeah, his reputation is that he knows zero about sports.
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isaiah520
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Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it" Joined: 12.26.2006
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A guy can do a lot in 5 minutes. Christ, even in 30 seconds.
You should have seen me back in the day with the ladies. - Daman
casual quickies |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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If Eskin reported that, there is a 0% chance of a comeback.
The next clue Eskin finds would be his first. - Daman
Yep. Except that Eskins injury reports during the playoffs have been generally 100% accurate, and that he also reported that the Flyers were shopping both Carter and Richards last summer, and that they were going to move JvR this summer.
Outside of that, he's been way off. |
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the deaninator
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Location: Purgatory, DE Joined: 08.06.2006
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Pronger's concussion issue is really scary, and I agree with many people that its wishful thinking at minimum that he ever plays again, and a miracle at worse. I don't think anyone knows if age or conditioning has anything to do with P.C.S. (the fact that the medical community has little more than theories on concussions anyway is scarier).
I would hope Homer has decided to continue on as if Pronger will never play again, and if by some chance he can return its like a trade deadline deal or FA signing. |
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the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Purgatory, DE Joined: 08.06.2006
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Yep. Except that Eskins injury reports during the playoffs have been generally 100% accurate, and that he also reported that the Flyers were shopping both Carter and Richards last summer, and that they were going to move JvR this summer.
Outside of that, he's been way off. - Jsaquella
That Pavel Bure trade was a real rep killer... |
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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Bouwmeester is still available. - bradleyc4
Can I kick you in the nuts? |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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They have sent guys to the AHL, sure, but LTIR is really only used when a team knows it's going to be over the cap and has no other recourse.
From Capgeek's FAQ:
Teams receive cap relief when a player is considered to have a "bona-fide long-term injury" — injuries that cause a player to miss at least 10 games or 24 days. This is one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of the CBA.
Just because a player is on LTIR does not automatically grant the team extra cap space. In the event a player is placed on LTIR, his cap hit still counts toward the team's overall cap payroll. Relief only comes if replacing the player's salary pushes the team's cap payroll to date over the cap. The amount of relief is limited to the amount the team has gone over the cap (less the amount of payroll room the team had at the time the LTIR transaction took place), not the entire amount of the injured player's salary.
There is no formal designation of "replacement players."
Basically that's saying that LTIR can't even be used unless the team is actually going to be over the cap after a particular move. - Jsaquella
A player can be placed on the LTIR list even if the team is well under the Cap. The exemption just doesn't kick in until the team uses all of it's available cap space, incuding the player on LTIR's cap hit. |
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Yep. Except that Eskins injury reports during the playoffs have been generally 100% accurate, and that he also reported that the Flyers were shopping both Carter and Richards last summer, and that they were going to move JvR this summer.
Outside of that, he's been way off. - Jsaquella
Stop defending this guy. Do you think he could name 5 players on any other NHL team outside of the Flyers?
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aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Typical Montreal, PA Joined: 07.10.2008
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who won trial on the isle?? |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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That Pavel Bure trade was a real rep killer... - the deaninator
It was, but the guy has been pretty much correct over the past few years. I don't particularly like him, but I'll give credit where it's due. Other reporters heard the rumblings on Carter and Richards, Eskin had the stones to report them. |
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They have sent guys to the AHL, sure, but LTIR is really only used when a team knows it's going to be over the cap and has no other recourse.
From Capgeek's FAQ:
Teams receive cap relief when a player is considered to have a "bona-fide long-term injury" — injuries that cause a player to miss at least 10 games or 24 days. This is one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of the CBA.
Just because a player is on LTIR does not automatically grant the team extra cap space. In the event a player is placed on LTIR, his cap hit still counts toward the team's overall cap payroll. Relief only comes if replacing the player's salary pushes the team's cap payroll to date over the cap. The amount of relief is limited to the amount the team has gone over the cap (less the amount of payroll room the team had at the time the LTIR transaction took place), not the entire amount of the injured player's salary.
There is no formal designation of "replacement players."
Basically that's saying that LTIR can't even be used unless the team is actually going to be over the cap after a particular move. - Jsaquella
That makes sense.
Thanks for the clarification. |
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Can I kick you in the nuts? - nastyflyergirl
I must say, that is rather nasty. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Stop defending this guy. Do you think he could name 5 players on any other NHL team outside of the Flyers? - Daman
Knowing a sport is far different from having access to sources in the sport that will leak you valid information.
For instance, I'm sure that the injury news comes from Eskin's work with the Eagles broadcasts, because the Flyers and Eagles use a lot of the same doctors.
The bottom line is, regardless of his knowledge of the sport, Eskin has sources and gets news. |
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Stop defending this guy. Do you think he could name 5 players on any other NHL team outside of the Flyers? - Daman
He's not an analyst and sounds like a fool when he tries to be.
However, he's a superb journalist. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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A player can be placed on the LTIR list even if the team is well under the Cap. The exemption just doesn't kick in until the team uses all of it's available cap space, incuding the player on LTIR's cap hit. - MJL
I did mis-type. I meant the LTIR cap exemption, not actual LTIR. I'm just assuming they will hold off on LTIR until it becomes necessary, since there's no benefit unless they need the cap room. |
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twotoekenn
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Location: perkasie, PA Joined: 12.16.2009
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He's not an analyst and sounds like a fool when he tries to be.
However, he's a superb journalist. - LordStanley88
He also knows how to treat married women. |
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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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He also knows how to treat married women. - twotoekenn
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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He also knows how to treat married women. - twotoekenn
And that matters exactly how much to his ability to report information? |
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Knowing a sport is far different from having access to sources in the sport that will leak you valid information.
For instance, I'm sure that the injury news comes from Eskin's work with the Eagles broadcasts, because the Flyers and Eagles use a lot of the same doctors.
The bottom line is, regardless of his knowledge of the sport, Eskin has sources and gets news. - Jsaquella
Maybe Eskin and Ek are the same. Phonetically, very close.
Plus, they are both fountains of information. Go-sh darn Nostradamus x 2. |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Maybe Eskin and Ek are the same. Phonetically, very close.
Plus, they are both fountains of information. God damn Nostradamus x 2. - Daman
The fact remains that Eskin's reports on Pronger's wrist and Carter's knee in the 2011 playoffs were 100% accurate. He reported the Flyers were shopping both Carter and Richards before any other reporter in Philly and both were traded. He reported that JvR likely would have been traded during last season had he been healthy and that he was likely to be traded this summer.
Brian Burke confirmed that JvR for Schenn discussions were tabled last season due to JvR's injuries and what happened to JvR this summer?
So again, regardless of Eskin's lack of knowledge in the sport, the guy does get information that turns out to be correct quite often. Name calling doesn't change the fact. |
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The fact remains that Eskin's reports on Pronger's wrist and Carter's knee in the 2011 playoffs were 100% accurate. He reported the Flyers were shopping both Carter and Richards before any other reporter in Philly and both were traded. He reported that JvR likely would have been traded during last season had he been healthy and that he was likely to be traded this summer.
Brian Burke confirmed that JvR for Schenn discussions were tabled last season due to JvR's injuries and what happened to JvR this summer?
So again, regardless of Eskin's lack of knowledge in the sport, the guy does get information that turns out to be correct quite often. Name calling doesn't change the fact. - Jsaquella
I guess if Eskin took a leak in one's mouth, they might call it wine.
I call it piss. |
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the deaninator
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Location: Purgatory, DE Joined: 08.06.2006
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The fact remains that Eskin's reports on Pronger's wrist and Carter's knee in the 2011 playoffs were 100% accurate. He reported the Flyers were shopping both Carter and Richards before any other reporter in Philly and both were traded. He reported that JvR likely would have been traded during last season had he been healthy and that he was likely to be traded this summer.
Brian Burke confirmed that JvR for Schenn discussions were tabled last season due to JvR's injuries and what happened to JvR this summer?
So again, regardless of Eskin's lack of knowledge in the sport, the guy does get information that turns out to be correct quite often. - Jsaquella
I will say this about the guy; he's not afraid to give info if he knows its 100% fact, even if it might ruffle some feathers with management. A good reporter does that, instead of toeing the company line to ensure their position as a beat writer. |
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five4fighting10
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Joined: 02.22.2008
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It was, but the guy has been pretty much correct over the past few years. I don't particularly like him, but I'll give credit where it's due. Other reporters heard the rumblings on Carter and Richards, Eskin had the stones to report them. - Jsaquella
I'm unfamiliar with this Bure trade, any chance you could provide the details? |
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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the jewelry is still out Joined: 01.16.2007
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I'd bet on St. Louis there.
Bernier to the Oilers makes too much sense too. - LordStanley88
Guess you've never heard of Devan Dubnyk? |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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Guess you've never heard of Devan Dubnyk? - bradleyc4
He had a pretty solid year last year.. |
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