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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
Well, for starters, brings each of us a beer. Makes sure they're cold ones.
- BulliesPhan87


Where should I brings them champ?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:32 PM ET
mayfair
- nastyflyergirl



Sweet!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 13 @ 9:34 PM ET
Where should I brings them champ?
- Daman

Brings them rights heres. And while you're at it, gets us some pizza.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:41 PM ET
http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...emove-mass-from-his-neck/


Good lord can't this guy catch a break..............oh wait........nm
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:43 PM ET
Yawn this thread sucks tonight



.......figuratively I meant


Whew.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 13 @ 9:44 PM ET
Yawn this thread sucks tonight



.......figuratively I meant


Whew.

- Just5

You are figuratively literally correct.

...or is it literally figuratively?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 9:52 PM ET
Actually, as you can tell, I don't respect him. Howard and Angelo have developed these on air personalties where sports is secondary and entertainment comes first. His gimmick is to be pompous and insulting. To simply call him a journalist is highly innacurate. He hosted a radio show where he provided "analysis" and offered opinions. While I can't say I have listened to him more than a half dozen times, it didn't take much to see through his little act.

As with anything, that will draw some fans, and if you enjoy that sort of thing, go for it! He's the man!

- Daman


You have to carve a niche for yourself. And obviously, whether you are a fan of them or not. They did something right. As they both earned 7 figure annual salaries to do what we do on this site for free. And that's talk sports.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:55 PM ET
Actually, as you can tell, I don't respect him. Howard and Angelo have developed these on air personalties where sports is secondary and entertainment comes first. His gimmick is to be pompous and insulting. To simply call him a journalist is highly innacurate. He hosted a radio show where he provided "analysis" and offered opinions. While I can't say I have listened to him more than a half dozen times, it didn't take much to see through his little act.

As with anything, that will draw some fans, and if you enjoy that sort of thing, go for it! He's Da man!

- Daman




Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 13 @ 10:15 PM ET

- aosplayo


Well played Playo. Nicely done.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 13 @ 10:37 PM ET
Are you suggesting that he is only a journalist? When he appears on TV, does that meet the definitions you provided?

I will, however, forgive all the hostility. I would prefer to read Bill any day of the week - someone with extreme knowledge of a sport. You can,of course, follow whom you choose.

- Daman


No, you inchworm.

I said, verbatim, that he's a good journalist.

Where does that imply that I believe that is his only job title? In fact, I said previously that he's generally a poor analyst.

KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:44 PM ET
mayfair
- nastyflyergirl


K & A
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 13 @ 10:56 PM ET
K & A
- KINGKENZO


Byrne's crabs?

ooooooh.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 13 @ 11:12 PM ET
The NHL's reported initial CBA proposal suggests that the players should reduce their share of the revenues to 46%, down from 57%. The NHL also wants five-year entry-level contracts, an elimination of salary arbitration, no contracts in excess of five years, and players to spend 10 years in the NHL before their eligible to become unrestricted free agents. As big as those changes are, keep in mind that this is only a first offer. The NHL and NHLPA have a lot of negotiating ahead of them and it's not surprising that the league would ask for far more than their likely to get.
Source: Renaud P Lavoie on Twitter
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 13 @ 11:33 PM ET
Byrne's crabs?

ooooooh.

- 77rams

you mean Bonk's?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 14 @ 12:05 AM ET
you mean Bonk's?
- KINGKENZO


Byrne's Tavern. Off the Allegheny exit from 95.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 14 @ 12:41 AM ET
No, you inchworm.

I said, verbatim, that he's a good journalist.

Where does that imply that I believe that is his only job title? In fact, I said previously that he's generally a poor analyst.


- LordStanley88



So I'll go back to the recent piece on NBC news. He said that Anaheim wanted Gus, Read, and a 1st for Ryan. He then said the Flyers were unwilling to make that offer.

Do you believe that to be true? Or perhaps you may think I am lying.

Or perhaps the reality is he is joke?


bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 14 @ 1:11 AM ET
So I'll go back to the recent piece on NBC news. He said that Anaheim wanted Gus, Read, and a 1st for Ryan. He then said the Flyers were unwilling to make that offer.

Do you believe that to be true? Or perhaps you may think I am lying.

Or perhaps the reality is he is joke?

- Daman

I dunno why you hate him so much, He has sources that are reliable, big deal. It's like if anyone says anything positive you need to feel like you need to justify your hate, seems immature. Its ok, life goes on
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 14 @ 1:57 AM ET
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/report-simon-gagne-underwent-surgery-to-remove-mass-from-his-neck/


Good lord can't this guy catch a break..............oh wait........nm

- aosplayo




wow. remember at the end of his flyers time he had a guy who really helped him who was focused on his neck?

couldn't be happier for him that he got his cup. something is up.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 14 @ 2:21 AM ET
The NHL's reported initial CBA proposal suggests that the players should reduce their share of the revenues to 46%, down from 57%. The NHL also wants five-year entry-level contracts, an elimination of salary arbitration, no contracts in excess of five years, and players to spend 10 years in the NHL before their eligible to become unrestricted free agents. As big as those changes are, keep in mind that this is only a first offer. The NHL and NHLPA have a lot of negotiating ahead of them and it's not surprising that the league would ask for far more than their likely to get.
Source: Renaud P Lavoie on Twitter

- stveshdy

uh oh
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 14 @ 2:22 AM ET
lol @ rinaldo around 3:25, i remember that one

re: carle...i also noticed coburn, mesz, timo and even lilja getting in on the action. they'll be okay imo

the brief pronger sighting made me feel like vomiting

- Don'tForgetTocchet

they will need more offense from Coburn and Mez this year
hope those guys are working on their shots
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:06 AM ET
The NHL's reported initial CBA proposal suggests that the players should reduce their share of the revenues to 46%, down from 57%. The NHL also wants five-year entry-level contracts, an elimination of salary arbitration, no contracts in excess of five years, and players to spend 10 years in the NHL before their eligible to become unrestricted free agents. As big as those changes are, keep in mind that this is only a first offer. The NHL and NHLPA have a lot of negotiating ahead of them and it's not surprising that the league would ask for far more than their likely to get.
Source: Renaud P Lavoie on Twitter

- stveshdy


It's like when you go to buy a car, and you ask for the price. The salesman gives you the price on the window at first. The league has no prayer of getting all of that.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 14 @ 8:06 AM ET
It's like when you go to buy a car, and you ask for the price. The salesman gives you the price on the window at first. The league has no prayer of getting all of that.
- MJL


Yup. That's why it's a negotiation. Just hope they can agree on terms bc if there's a lockout this sport will be damaged.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 14 @ 8:46 AM ET
Actually, as you can tell, I don't respect him. Howard and Angelo have developed these on air personalties where sports is secondary and entertainment comes first. His gimmick is to be pompous and insulting. To simply call him a journalist is highly innacurate. He hosted a radio show where he provided "analysis" and offered opinions. While I can't say I have listened to him more than a half dozen times, it didn't take much to see through his little act.

As with anything, that will draw some fans, and if you enjoy that sort of thing, go for it! He's the man!

- Daman


No he's not The Man. He's a well connected guy that gets information that generally turns out to be accurate.

I don't care about his gimmick or his knowledge of the sport. I care that he obviously has some really good sources who feed him legitimate information.

Your inability to grasp the difference between liking and/or respecting a reporter or simply recognizing that he does manage to provide valid information is kind of staggering.

Is he correct 100% of the time? No, absolutely not. But he has reported several big things that have either come to pass(Richards, Carter & JvR) or that were 100% right(Pronger's wrist and concussion and Carter's knee in the 2011 playoffs) which nobody else had or would report.

I don't respect Eskin's on air persona. I agree he doesn't know much about hockey. But you're simply ignorant if you don't think he has numerous sources close to the Flyers that feed him information. To ignore that because of his schtick is choosing to be less informed.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 14 @ 8:48 AM ET
The NHL's reported initial CBA proposal suggests that the players should reduce their share of the revenues to 46%, down from 57%. The NHL also wants five-year entry-level contracts, an elimination of salary arbitration, no contracts in excess of five years, and players to spend 10 years in the NHL before their eligible to become unrestricted free agents. As big as those changes are, keep in mind that this is only a first offer. The NHL and NHLPA have a lot of negotiating ahead of them and it's not surprising that the league would ask for far more than their likely to get.
Source: Renaud P Lavoie on Twitter

- stveshdy


While I agree that it's only a first offer, starting negotiations with such a harsh proposal seems to be counter productive.
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