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Bozzy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 08.05.2010

Jul 12 @ 1:58 PM ET
Sorry champ. You brought up the fact that if you don't win the stanley cup there's no point in being happy as a fan. One winner, everyone else is a loser. With you it's all or nothing. That's the typical view of a fan that has to deal with mediocrity. That's ok, keep telling yourself that. It will make the bum hurt go away.
Speaking of going away. Take a (frank)ing hint.

- bloatedmosquito


Where did he say there is no point being happy. He's just saying that like the othe teams that didn't win the cup you have nothing to brag about, doesn't mean you can't enjoy watching and being happy with your teams performance. Did they up the content of fluoride in Vancouvers water or something?
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 12 @ 2:28 PM ET
Good read Ian, you got the Leafs fans pretty riled up but I thought it was a great way to grab their attention about the FHFF going on in their city. Looking forward to Feaster sucks, Tamby sucks, Gillis sucks etc...

Sorry about getting crucified for Meuller already signing as well, why would you want to trust a twitter posting that he had signed when they are not the most accurate.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jul 12 @ 2:29 PM ET
When is the referee showing up to slap everybody's hand?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jul 12 @ 2:47 PM ET
Ian I don't care if Burke sucks or doesn't suck - if you need to get hits to make it look like someone actually cares about reading your garbage. Here are some topics that will land you tons of hits.

How Vancouver goes limp when it comes to the Playoffs!
Vancouver Canucks 2012 Olympic Diving Team Tryouts
How Cindy Crosby is more man than the Vancouver Canucks Twins

....

I could keep this up all day long ... but my point is, find another way to get your readers.

- dreamblue


You're just like Pete making trouble again.

Darn You Pete!

You need a time-out on your wheel.

fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jul 12 @ 2:55 PM ET


Way to go Ian. I don't think anyone even read the blog. They just read the title and started pissing all over the place.
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jul 12 @ 2:57 PM ET
Sorry champ. You brought up the fact that if you don't win the stanley cup there's no point in being happy as a fan. One winner, everyone else is a loser. With you it's all or nothing. That's the typical view of a fan that has to deal with mediocrity. That's ok, keep telling yourself that. It will make the bum hurt go away.
Speaking of going away. Take a (frank)ing hint.

- bloatedmosquito

And this is the attitude of a team that has NEVER won a Cup, you just keep being happy with your good team that can't win the big game...
He is totally right, one winner every year, the rest are losers, yet you Canucks fans feel you should receive some recognition for being good, but not the best...
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

Jul 12 @ 3:00 PM ET
Vancouver Grizzlies?
I love how you are named after a clueless dog...

- BoBBeR56

raptors like the leafs will never win!
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 12 @ 3:07 PM ET
My bold prediction for the day, wherever Mueller ends up, he will have more NHL points than Higgins, Hansen, Raymond, and Booth.

- IanEsplen


I hate to be 'that guy', but this is not a bold prediction.
Career points per game:
Mueller- 0.56
Booth- 0.54
Higgins- 0.50
Raymond- 0.48
Hansen- 0.38
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:17 PM ET
I hate to be 'that guy', but this is not a bold prediction.
Career points per game:
Mueller- 0.56
Booth- 0.54
Higgins- 0.50
Raymond- 0.48
Hansen- 0.38

- BestRapperAlive


The prediction is a bit bolder when you consider how few games Mueller has played the past 2 seasons. He said Mueller would get more points (as in total for the season) not average more points per game.
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jul 12 @ 3:19 PM ET
raptors like the leafs will never win!
- Canuckfan2006

Never win? Ever?
Toronto Raptors had more wins than the Vancouver Grizzlies last year...
Leafs have won, you should see the 13 Stanley Cup banners hanging at the ACC...how many are hanging in Vancouver?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 12 @ 3:19 PM ET
The prediction is a bit bolder when you consider how few games Mueller has played the past 2 seasons. He said Mueller would get more points (as in total for the season) not average more points per game.
- AlexF



I don't see him getting more than Booth for sure and I think Higgins and Mueller will be close, I'd give the edge to Higgins because I expect Mueller to miss around 20 games. Hansen and Higgins are also way better defensively and don't get much PP time.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:28 PM ET
Good read Ian, you got the Leafs fans pretty riled up but I thought it was a great way to grab their attention about the FHFF going on in their city. Looking forward to Feaster sucks, Tamby sucks, Gillis sucks etc...

Sorry about getting crucified for Meuller already signing as well, why would you want to trust a twitter posting that he had signed when they are not the most accurate.

- immature_male


Thanks

I think most people got the joke and hopefully it got a few more people out to FHFF Toronto.

I have nothing against Brian Burke. I honestly loved having him in Vancouver and I think most Canucks fans liked his time as Canucks GM. I think he is a good GM. The guy is a quote machine and always gives me something good to blog about.

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:28 PM ET
That sounds swell, "kiddo," and I'm sure the related book of poetry will be lovely. Obviously it's fun to go to a game and see your team win, which no one ever questioned. Seeing games in person is super neato! But as a measure of success for a team - which is what we were talking about - winning some playoff games, or the President's Trophy, means squat next to the Cup.
- tryan83


Prove it or it's just another opinion. Not fact. I think a team's 'success' is measured in many ways. For TOR fans it's having a rich and storied past. To Leaf owners and managers it's all about the bottom line. See its all relative.

So you can come in here a spew a load of poop but it means nothing. You're just another a-hole with an opinion.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Jul 12 @ 3:28 PM ET
Never win? Ever?
Toronto Raptors had more wins than the Vancouver Grizzlies last year...
Leafs have won, you should see the 13 Stanley Cup banners hanging at the ACC...how many are hanging in Vancouver?

- BoBBeR56


This dialogue is getting really old. Why are you even in here if you have nothing productive to add to the conversation?
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:30 PM ET
I don't see him getting more than Booth for sure and I think Higgins and Mueller will be close, I'd give the edge to Higgins because I expect Mueller to miss around 20 games. Hansen and Higgins are also way better defensively and don't get much PP time.
- Nucker101


If we get a playmaking winger then I think Booth might be good for 60+ pts. If we role out more of the same, he'll probably do better than last year after an off-season to adjust to the system, but he'll still struggle to find chances that don't come off of rebounds or ones that he creates on his own (eg driving to the net). It'll be interesting to see how he plays with Schroeder, assuming of course that Schroeder makes the team's 2nd line for the start.

Mueller, when fully fit, is almost a PPG player and has had long stretches posting those types of numbers. It really depends on where they play him in FLA and how much PP time he gets. I'm assuming he'll be Samuelsson's replacement. Still, can this guy stay healthy or is he one light head knock away from retirement?
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 12 @ 3:34 PM ET
When is the referee showing up to slap everybody's hand?
- immature_male


I've been reading through the thread, but I'm here now. Everybody behave please.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 12 @ 3:37 PM ET
I've been reading through the thread, but I'm here now. Everybody behave please.
- micah555

Troll banning time
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:38 PM ET
And this is the attitude of a team that has NEVER won a Cup, you just keep being happy with your good team that can't win the big game...
He is totally right, one winner every year, the rest are losers, yet you Canucks fans feel you should receive some recognition for being good, but not the best...

- BoBBeR56


I could care less what other fans think of my team.

Actually, that's not true. I hope every non-canuck fan HATES my team. Hate them so much that they pay for tickets just to boo. Hate them so much that they tune their TVs to watch so they can boo. Create hateful canuck avatars instead of celebrating their own team. Constantly on canuck blogs female doging about the team and their fans.

Because all you are doing is making the canucks even more profitable. Hopefully one day we won't be subjected to mediocrity every Saturday night. Maybe Saturday night hockey will become relevant again.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:43 PM ET
Never win? Ever?
Toronto Raptors had more wins than the Vancouver Grizzlies last year...
Leafs have won, you should see the 13 Stanley Cup banners hanging at the Museum...how many are hanging in Vancouver?

- BoBBeR56


Fixed that for you. 6 team league. Enough said.

If you are going to use ancient history as bragging rights then I'll just add this:


IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:52 PM ET
just saw that the Toronto FHFF is giving away Kessel and Lupal Auotgraphed jerseys

get there quick
tryan83
Joined: 03.22.2009

Jul 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
Prove it or it's just another opinion. Not fact. I think a team's 'success' is measured in many ways. For TOR fans it's having a rich and storied past. To Leaf owners and managers it's all about the bottom line. See its all relative.

So you can come in here a spew a load of poop but it means nothing. You're just another a-hole with an opinion.

- bloatedmosquito

You seem to have a reading disability of some sort, but maybe saying this again will help:

As a measure of success for a team, winning some playoff games, or the President's Trophy, means squat next to the Cup.

Yes, team owners certainly value making money. Yes, Canucks fans undoubtedly feel that their team has been successful over the last few seasons with deep playoff runs. But that's not what I'm disputing, no matter how many times you miss it.

Describe to me one instance in which a team would rather win just a few playoff games, or would rather win the President's Trophy, instead of the Stanley Cup. You can't do it. And that's been my argument the whole time. Of course I'm "just another a-hole with an opinion," the same as you. But I still don't see any scenario in which a handful of playoff wins or a President's Trophy are more valuable than the Stanley Cup - certainly not to fan morale, and not to a team's bottom line.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 12 @ 4:09 PM ET
Where did he say there is no point being happy. He's just saying that like the othe teams that didn't win the cup you have nothing to brag about, doesn't mean you can't enjoy watching and being happy with your teams performance. Did they up the content of fluoride in Vancouvers water or something?
- Bozzy


How do you interpret this one Einstein:

From the point of view of a Sens fan, I can say if you don't win it all in the playoffs, you didn't win anything. President's trophy? Makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. Making it to the finals? Just the most recognizable loser that year, nothing more.
- Lohaus


bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 12 @ 4:09 PM ET
double post
Mattjd123
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.01.2009

Jul 12 @ 4:11 PM ET
Never win? Ever?
Toronto Raptors had more wins than the Vancouver Grizzlies last year...
Leafs have won, you should see the 13 Stanley Cup banners hanging at the ACC...how many are hanging in Vancouver?

- BoBBeR56


Not this tired argument again.



AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 12 @ 4:16 PM ET
You seem to have a reading disability of some sort, but maybe saying this again will help:

As a measure of success for a team, winning some playoff games, or the President's Trophy, means squat next to the Cup.

Yes, team owners certainly value making money. Yes, Canucks fans undoubtedly feel that their team has been successful over the last few seasons with deep playoff runs. But that's not what I'm disputing, no matter how many times you miss it.

Describe to me one instance in which a team would rather win just a few playoff games, or would rather win the President's Trophy, instead of the Stanley Cup. You can't do it. And that's been my argument the whole time. Of course I'm "just another a-hole with an opinion," the same as you. But I still don't see any scenario in which a handful of playoff wins or a President's Trophy are more valuable than the Stanley Cup - certainly not to fan morale, and not to a team's bottom line.

- tryan83


Don't think anyone's disputing that. Of course if you ask, "which would you prefer?", we'd all pick the SC. I'm not even sure why that needs to spelled out.

What Mosquito is saying is that the SC is not the only measure to gauge if a team has had a successful season or not. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth but if you're saying the only thing worth anything for a team is to win the cup or the season has been a flat out failure, that would indicate that 29 teams should hold their heads down in abject shame every single season. This is nonsense.
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