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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
i think you guys should trade gagner. if it wasn't for that 8 point game he would've finished with 39 points and after 5 seasons he hasn't broken 50 points yet. yea you guys have been pretty ass but i don't think this guy has THAT much potential and i feel like no team fears the guy when he's on the ice.

don't make the same mistake we did with dubinsky. trade the guy while he still has value before you're stuck with an inconsistent "all heart" player.

i will admit that i don't watch many oilers games but i have seen a few and i don't really see what the big deal about him is. you guys definately need that size since your top 6 are all young small kids.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:14 AM ET
i think you guys should trade gagner. if it wasn't for that 8 point game he would've finished with 39 points and after 5 seasons he hasn't broken 50 points yet. yea you guys have been pretty ass but i don't think this guy has THAT much potential and i feel like no team fears the guy when he's on the ice.

don't make the same mistake we did with dubinsky. trade the guy while he still has value before you're stuck with an inconsistent "all heart" player.

i will admit that i don't watch many oilers games but i have seen a few and i don't really see what the big deal about him is. you guys definately need that size since your top 6 are all young small kids.

- rangerdanger94


Gagner's all around game has improved every year since his rookie season. He's been a consistant 40 to 50 point scorer. Gagner was a plus player for the first time in his career, which is impressive considering the Oilers were a terrible team.

All the Gagner haters want Gagner gone because he isn't some big hulking man.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:15 AM ET
i think you guys should trade gagner. if it wasn't for that 8 point game he would've finished with 39 points and after 5 seasons he hasn't broken 50 points yet. yea you guys have been pretty ass but i don't think this guy has THAT much potential and i feel like no team fears the guy when he's on the ice.

don't make the same mistake we did with dubinsky. trade the guy while he still has value before you're stuck with an inconsistent "all heart" player.

i will admit that i don't watch many oilers games but i have seen a few and i don't really see what the big deal about him is. you guys definately need that size since your top 6 are all young small kids.

- rangerdanger94


Don't forget he's only 22 and still developing !!!!
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:23 AM ET
Don't forget he's only 22 and still developing !!!!
- Starbuck

Mueller was signed by the Florida Panthers 1 year $1.75 Million!! Steal and a great gamble for Florida!! WAY TO GO TAMBO and KLowe!! Another missed opportunity!!
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 12 @ 10:23 AM ET
Don't forget he's only 22 and still developing !!!!
- Starbuck

yea i guess i don't watch him enough to really pass the verdict but i was just comparing his numbers to stepan who's a great 2nd line center imo and stepan has been in the league for only 2 years and has broken 50 points while gagne has been in longer and hasn't. but then again, stepan has played in all 82 games each season and has played for a winning team.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:25 AM ET
Mueller was signed by the Florida Panthers 1 year $1.75 Million!! Steal and a great gamble for Florida!! WAY TO GO TAMBO and KLowe!! Another missed opportunity!!
- undisputed_8821


Where exactly would he play? Why add another winger?
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:25 AM ET
Mueller was signed by the Florida Panthers 1 year $1.75 Million!! Steal and a great gamble for Florida!! WAY TO GO TAMBO and KLowe!! Another missed opportunity!!
- undisputed_8821



This!
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:26 AM ET
Where exactly would he play? Why add another winger?
- Starbuck



Third line even and move someone down to 4th if needed...
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:26 AM ET
yea i guess i don't watch him enough to really pass the verdict but i was just comparing his numbers to stepan who's a great 2nd line center imo and stepan has been in the league for only 2 years and has broken 50 points while gagne has been in longer and hasn't. but then again, stepan has played in all 82 games each season and has played for a winning team.
- rangerdanger94


Gagner was rushed into the NHL at 18 which IMO has slowed his development.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:31 AM ET
Third line even and move someone down to 4th if needed...
- saskoil21


Why all this love for a very inconsistant Mueller? A player who rivals Hemsky in the injury department.
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:34 AM ET
Where exactly would he play? Why add another winger?
- Starbuck

Plays center 6'1 200+lbs @1.75..... Well worth the gamble!
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 12 @ 10:36 AM ET
Why all this love for a very inconsistant Mueller? A player who rivals Hemsky in the injury department.
- Starbuck

he's got a lot of talent but yea he's injury prone. if he can stay healthy, then that contract is a steal for florida.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:37 AM ET
Plays center 6'1 200+lbs @1.75..... Well worth the gamble!
- undisputed_8821


He doesn't play center. Mueller took a whole 10 faceoffs last year and all of a sudden he's worth a gamble. He's 2 inches taller and 5 lbs heavier than Gagner.

Gagner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mueller
jeremyn
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.09.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
I would only be open to trading Gagner if it means a Top 4 D came back.

Gagner, for his age especially, is developing well. The stats state that.
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
He doesn't play center. Mueller took a whole 10 faceoffs last year and all of a sudden he's worth a gamble. He's 2 inches taller and 5 lbs heavier than Gagner.

Gagner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mueller

- Starbuck

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3989

$1.75 million Why NOT gamble?? It isn't like he is 37 (Arnott) or gonna cost much!! No prospects have to go no roster players needed to be moved!
TheSpeculum
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:46 AM ET
You do realize that no one outside of Van or BC rates the Casucks as highly as you do right???
- ruttager17

Kesler>>>>>Ted Nugent Hoppins and rest of Edmonton team together. We win with Schneider this year! Hello Stanley, we get busy planning parade route now!
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:47 AM ET
He doesn't play center. Mueller took a whole 10 faceoffs last year and all of a sudden he's worth a gamble. He's 2 inches taller and 5 lbs heavier than Gagner.

Gagner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mueller

- Starbuck

He is listed as C/RW regardless I would have taken a shot!! Could do very little bad and a lot of good!
The_Hinter
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Im here because i have nothing better to do., AB
Joined: 07.11.2010

Jul 12 @ 10:49 AM ET
Kesler>>>>>Ted Nugent Hoppins and rest of Edmonton team together. We win with Schneider this year! Hello Stanley, we get busy planning parade route now!
- TheSpeculum

you mean the riot route right... never won a thing and never will, now piss off
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:51 AM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3989

$1.75 million Why NOT gamble?? It isn't like he is 37 (Arnott) or gonna cost much!! No prospects have to go no roster players needed to be moved!

- undisputed_8821


TSN lists him as a LW/RW...

It still doesn't change the fact that he took only 10 faceoffs last season. Which tells me he's not really a center.
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:54 AM ET
TSN lists him as a LW/RW...

It still doesn't change the fact that he took only 10 faceoffs last season. Which tells me he's not really a center.

- Starbuck

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8473526

Moot point now as he is signed! But adding a C/LW/RW doesn't hurt if anything it helps in having a more durable and productive player in the lineup! I would also assume it was because he was coming off injury and only played 32 games also behind Duchesne and Statsny! He is a player that NEEDS to be in a top 6 role! So was played on the wings in Colorado
ryan78
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Born Small... Now Huge... Win, AB
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:58 AM ET
I dont remember the last time a team kept a 4th line center for 4+ years.

Ill save judgement for where Pitlicks best suited when he actually makes the Oilers

- mochoson

Well he can't play center at the AHL level so what does that tell you?
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 12 @ 11:03 AM ET
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8473526

Moot point now as he is signed! But adding a C/LW/RW doesn't hurt if anything it helps in having a more durable and productive player in the lineup! I would also assume it was because he was coming off injury and only played 32 games also behind Duchesne and Statsny! He is a player that NEEDS to be in a top 6 role! So was played on the wings in Colorado

- undisputed_8821


I really hope Tambellini isn't wasting his time looking at players like Mueller. Especially when he should be out there looking for one more capable d-man.
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jul 12 @ 11:05 AM ET
I really hope Tambellini isn't wasting his time looking at players like Mueller. Especially when he should be out there looking for one more capable d-man.
- Starbuck

As I mentioned before Spacek and Coliaccavio MAYBE Jurcina! Missing Mueller is a missed opportunity that would have been as easy sell and a safe bet!
ryan78
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Born Small... Now Huge... Win, AB
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8473526

Moot point now as he is signed! But adding a C/LW/RW doesn't hurt if anything it helps in having a more durable and productive player in the lineup! I would also assume it was because he was coming off injury and only played 32 games also behind Duchesne and Statsny! He is a player that NEEDS to be in a top 6 role! So was played on the wings in Colorado

- undisputed_8821

I'm confused. Who is this durable/productive player you speak of?
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8473526

Moot point now as he is signed! But adding a C/LW/RW doesn't hurt if anything it helps in having a more durable and productive player in the lineup! I would also assume it was because he was coming off injury and only played 32 games also behind Duchesne and Statsny! He is a player that NEEDS to be in a top 6 role! So was played on the wings in Colorado

- undisputed_8821


Ok who do you bump out of a top six roll...

Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, Gagner, Hemsky ?
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