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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 1:58 PM ET
So he only has a NTC. So if your not giving anything up, and your shedding salary like Walker and Shelly in the process, then why not get him. You can always trade him next off-season for a late round pick. If he refuses to accept the trade then you tell him he will be waived and play in the AHL. He will waive his ntc because then the other team will just select him on waivers. Perfect 1 year deal a team like Islanders would love to get to get above the cap floor and not pay much salary....

There is a reason the Flyers might be looking into him. Like I said, not top on my list, but I wouldnt turn him down if it doesnt cost any assets.

- RooNosHockey



You don't get him simply because he isn't a 6.8M defenseman on either side of the puck. And while he's refusing to waive his NTC, he'll count for 6.8M on the Flyers off season Cap, before you can send him to the AHL. Doesn't make sense on any level.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:00 PM ET
Are we saying that Ek heard a bunch of garbage?

Or that the Flyers are stupid?

Or maybe that the Flyers are merely kicking the tires on J-Bo.


Not sure of J-Bo's cap hit or length of contract - but it sounds as if people would rather have Carle at 6 yrs 5.5 vs. J-Bo for 2/3 years at 6.8m.

Interesting.
Cloverfield
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newport Beach, CA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:01 PM ET
I dont want his money on the cap this year or next year. Especially with Edler, Enstrom, Weber (possible), Perry, etc. being available next summer. I rather have that money for next year. I understand what your saying but I rather just keep what we have an upgrade the winger spot if possible. Wait till the deadline to upgrade the defense with a second or third round pick like they did to get Kubina/Grossmann.
- stveshdy


Would love Enstrom on this team. But no JayBo.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jul 11 @ 2:05 PM ET
So he only has a NTC. So if your not giving anything up, and your shedding salary like Walker and Shelly in the process, then why not get him. You can always trade him next off-season for a late round pick. If he refuses to accept the trade then you tell him he will be waived and play in the AHL. He will waive his ntc because then the other team will just select him on waivers. Perfect 1 year deal a team like Islanders would love to get to get above the cap floor and not pay much salary....

There is a reason the Flyers might be looking into him. Like I said, not top on my list, but I wouldnt turn him down if it doesnt cost any assets.

- RooNosHockey


It's a long road to wisdom. But it's a short one to being ignored.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:06 PM ET
You don't get him simply because he isn't a 6.8M defenseman on either side of the puck. And while he's refusing to waive his NTC, he'll count for 6.8M on the Flyers off season Cap, before you can send him to the AHL. Doesn't make sense on any level.
- MJL


If he doesn't waive the NTC in the offseason and you absolutely need the money, thats when you bite the bullet and buy him out. Sure its 2 million on the cap for 2 years, but its not that bad. Without any changes the Flyers would still ahve about 3.1 million in cap space, and maybe more if there is a bonus cushion.

Then next season WORST case senario if you have to buy him out and the cap doesnt go up, you will get over 10 million in cap space with Timonen and Jaybo's cap space alone. Or in other terms 16 million to resign Simmonds, Hartnell, and go after Weber, Enstrom, or whoever... More then enough.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:09 PM ET
It's been a while since I thought about that trade since I spent 2 for unsportsman like conduct. I got to watch a lot of Jeopardy and Wapner in that time, and got some new undies at k-mart. But didn't think about JVR for Schenn trade much....
- RooNosHockey

U get banned ?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:12 PM ET
U get banned ?
- JoeRussomanno


Oh yea, but it was well worth it. I would do it all over again, and I was actually happy because I didn't have to pull my hair out over the last 2 weeks during this JVR, Parise, Suter, Voracek, Ryan, Nash...BS. I also learned how to cut pancakes with tooth picks, play blackjack with Tom Cruise in Vegas, and I found out I'm an Excellent Driver.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:13 PM ET
Are we saying that Ek heard a bunch of garbage?

Or that the Flyers are stupid?

Or maybe that the Flyers are merely kicking the tires on J-Bo.


Not sure of J-Bo's cap hit or length of contract - but it sounds as if people would rather have Carle at 6 yrs 5.5 vs. J-Bo for 2/3 years at 6.8m.

Interesting.

- Daman

Eh I'd say that maybe they are kicking the tires, I would most vehemntly object to acquiring the player.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:13 PM ET
Oh yea, but it was well worth it. I would do it all over again, and I was actually happy because I didn't have to pull my hair out over the last 2 weeks during this JVR, Parise, Suter, Voracek, Ryan, Nash...BS. I also learned how to cut pancakes with tooth picks, play blackjack with Tom Cruise in Vegas, and I found out I'm an Excellent Driver.
- RooNosHockey


I was asked if I was the same person as you. Not sure why. Regardless, I almost joined you in the penalty box. Congrats on your return...

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:13 PM ET
Would love Enstrom on this team. But no JayBo.
- Cloverfield


Ditto. JayBo will be traded to a team that needs to reach the cap floor. Flyers should have no interest imo.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:14 PM ET
Oh yea, but it was well worth it. I would do it all over again, and I was actually happy because I didn't have to pull my hair out over the last 2 weeks during this JVR, Parise, Suter, Voracek, Ryan, Nash...BS. I also learned how to cut pancakes with tooth picks, play blackjack with Tom Cruise in Vegas, and I found out I'm an Excellent Driver.
- RooNosHockey

Easy killer, I missed ya, well kinda then you start this get Jaybo stuff
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
Oh yea, but it was well worth it. I would do it all over again, and I was actually happy because I didn't have to pull my hair out over the last 2 weeks during this JVR, Parise, Suter, Voracek, Ryan, Nash...BS. I also learned how to cut pancakes with tooth picks, play blackjack with Tom Cruise in Vegas, and I found out I'm an Excellent Driver.
- RooNosHockey


You can do that without getting banned...
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
Ditto. JayBo will be traded to a team that needs to reach the cap floor. Flyers should have no interest imo.
- stveshdy


Maybe he'll be suiting up for the Panthers again. Wouldn't surprise me.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
I was asked if I was the same person as you. Not sure why. Regardless, I almost joined you in the penalty box. Congrats on your return...
- Daman


Thats ok. I got a 3 month ban because someone thought I was 2real.... I had to take it to the leader to get it lifted... oh well.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
Eh I'd say that maybe they are kicking the tires, I would most vehemntly object to acquiring the player.
- JoeRussomanno



I would agree.

For the last several week I predicted not much would happen and we should stay the course. Still feel that way, although I would like Doan.

Now I think the Flyers will poke around for Ryan's services. We'll see.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
You can do that without getting banned...
- funmaster18

It's hard with one hand refreshing the page every three seconds
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 11 @ 2:16 PM ET
Ditto. JayBo will be traded to a team that needs to reach the cap floor. Flyers should have no interest imo.
- stveshdy


The flyers are not foolish. They will not trade for JBo.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
The flyers are not foolish. They will not trade for JBo.
- funmaster18

Don't push it ghosts of Flyer front office past are smiling.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
I would agree.

For the last several week I predicted not much would happen and we should stay the course. Still feel that way, although I would like Doan.

Now I think the Flyers will poke around for Ryan's services. We'll see.

- Daman


Da Man has spoken.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
Don't push it ghosts of Flyer front office past are smiling.
- JoeRussomanno


There are questionable moves and then there are stupid ones.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
I would agree.

For the last several week I predicted not much would happen and we should stay the course. Still feel that way, although I would like Doan.

Now I think the Flyers will poke around for Ryan's services. We'll see.

- Daman

Would you do Giroux for Weber str8 up?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
Easy killer, I missed ya, well kinda then you start this get Jaybo stuff
- JoeRussomanno


Thanks. But I didn't start this JayBo stuff. Eklund did. I just said that I wouldn't be pissed if they didn't give up any assets. I can see how it would work out.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
There are questionable moves and then there are stupid ones.
- funmaster18

This is true. I would also add there also flat out pointless moves as well.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
The flyers are not foolish. They will not trade for JBo.
- funmaster18


Agreed. I'm not worried at all.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
I would agree.

For the last several week I predicted not much would happen and we should stay the course. Still feel that way, although I would like Doan.

Now I think the Flyers will poke around for Ryan's services. We'll see.

- Daman


Only a matter of time now before Philly1980 shows up with his Bobby Ryan trumpet.
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