Shane Doan is Turning into Shane Moan.....Stay or GTFO...make up your mind.

It would realllly limit them come regular season.. assuming they would want to make moves.
- jak521

I understand the implications, but the team really doesn't need much more tweaking IMO.

Hartnell-Giroux-Read/Simmonds
Schenn-Briere-Voracek
Fedotenko-Couturier-Read/Simmonds
Wellwood-Talbot-Sestito/Rinaldo

Timonen-Jaybo
Coburn-Grossmann
Gervais/Bourdon-Meszaros

That's a very solid line-up, even if you dont expect someone like cousins to make the team from camp. Then you worry about next season, next season. You can always buy out Jaybo's contract on the last year, spread the cap hit over 2 years. Add that to timonen's cap and that is more then enough for Weber.

Flyers in on J-Bo (E.5) - see blog.

I wonder if Calgary will take our crap and some draft picks in turn for J-Bo and his inflated salary.

Maybe not that bad compared to Carle.
- Daman

I'd rather have Carle at $5.5 than his contract, no doubt.

Shane Doan is Turning into Shane Moan.....Stay or GTFO...make up your mind.
- Philly1980

He clearly wants to stay. His mind is made up. However, he's waiting for a resolution on the referendum, which has been pushed to next Monday.

J-Bo isn't a shutdown defenseman and he's turned into half the offensive player he was expected to be. So much more bang for the buck available out there, especially next summer.
- bmeltzer

x2

Shane Doan is Turning into Shane Moan.....Stay or GTFO...make up your mind.
- Philly1980

I don't think he's doing any moaning. His accusers of such, on the other hand...

I understand the implications, but the team really doesn't need much more tweaking IMO.

Hartnell-Giroux-Read/Simmonds
Schenn-Briere-Voracek
Fedotenko-Couturier-Read/Simmonds
Wellwood-Talbot-Sestito/Rinaldo

Timonen-Jaybo
Coburn-Grossmann
Gervais/Bourdon-Meszaros

That's a very solid line-up, even if you dont expect someone like cousins to make the team from camp. Then you worry about next season, next season. You can always buy out Jaybo's contract on the last year, spread the cap hit over 2 years. Add that to timonen's cap and that is more then enough for Weber.
- RooNosHockey

A buyout of Bouwmeester in the final year of his deal, would result in a Cap hit of $2,280,000 in 13/14, and $2,200,000 in 14/15. You can't possibly be offering that as a serious suggestion.

J-Bo isn't a shutdown defenseman and he's turned into half the offensive player he was expected to be. So much more bang for the buck available out there, especially next summer.
- bmeltzer

Who out there can you get that would be better without giving up any major assets?

As for next year, you can always buy-out Jaybo if you cant trade him. Lower the hit over 2 years. Add that to Timonen's contract and you have more then enough for a Weber or Enstrom.. And hopefully Bourdon or Gus or another D-man will be ready to step in and be a replacement for Jaybo.

I'm just saying as long as they dont give up much, I'm not going to complain if he comes here. It is possible that Calgary just wasn't using him properly and he might find the sucess he had in Florida back here.

I understand the implications, but the team really doesn't need much more tweaking IMO.

Hartnell-Giroux-Read/Simmonds
Schenn-Briere-Voracek
Fedotenko-Couturier-Read/Simmonds
Wellwood-Talbot-Sestito/Rinaldo

Timonen-Jaybo
Coburn-Grossmann
Gervais/Bourdon-Meszaros

That's a very solid line-up, even if you dont expect someone like cousins to make the team from camp. Then you worry about next season, next season. You can always buy out Jaybo's contract on the last year, spread the cap hit over 2 years. Add that to timonen's cap and that is more then enough for Weber.
- RooNosHockey

Why would you sacrifice 2 years of heavy dead cap space for 1 season of JayBo?

It's moronic!

Why would you sacrifice 2 years of heavy dead cap space for 1 season of JayBo?

It's moronic!
- LordStanley88

No doubt!

Beyond proposterous, and completely illogical for the Flyers to do so.

Who out there can you get that would be better without giving up any major assets?
As for next year, you can always buy-out Jaybo if you cant trade him. Lower the hit over 2 years. Add that to Timonen's contract and you have more then enough for a Weber or Enstrom.. And hopefully Bourdon or Gus or another D-man will be ready to step in and be a replacement for Jaybo.

I'm just saying as long as they dont give up much, I'm not going to complain if he comes here. It is possible that Calgary just wasn't using him properly and he might find the sucess he had in Florida back here.
- RooNosHockey

It's called patience.

Wait until the deadline to make a move to bolster the blue-line- that is if one is even needed.

Savvy Vet who is still out there....
Arnott


any interest?

Who out there can you get that would be better without giving up any major assets?

As for next year, you can always buy-out Jaybo if you cant trade him. Lower the hit over 2 years. Add that to Timonen's contract and you have more then enough for a Weber or Enstrom.. And hopefully Bourdon or Gus or another D-man will be ready to step in and be a replacement for Jaybo.

I'm just saying as long as they dont give up much, I'm not going to complain if he comes here. It is possible that Calgary just wasn't using him properly and he might find the sucess he had in Florida back here.
- RooNosHockey

If you buy out Jbo next summer, you are stuck with 2/3 of the cap hit for two years. That's $4.55 million of dead cap space.

A buyout of Bouwmeester in the final year of his deal, would result in a Cap hit of $2,280,000 in 13/14, and $2,200,000 in 14/15. You can't possibly be offering that as a serious suggestion.
- MJL

As a last resort in order to open up 4.4 million to sign a Weber, Enstrom, Perry, or Getzlaf sure I'm serious. Of course you try and trade him first. And if he just has a NTC then you waive him. But it would be a last resort.

Definately a last resort, definately.

I understand the implications, but the team really doesn't need much more tweaking IMO.

Hartnell-Giroux-Read/Simmonds
Schenn-Briere-Voracek
Fedotenko-Couturier-Read/Simmonds
Wellwood-Talbot-Sestito/Rinaldo

Timonen-Jaybo
Coburn-Grossmann
Gervais/Bourdon-Meszaros

That's a very solid line-up, even if you dont expect someone like cousins to make the team from camp. Then you worry about next season, next season. You can always buy out Jaybo's contract on the last year, spread the cap hit over 2 years. Add that to timonen's cap and that is more then enough for Weber.
- RooNosHockey

Where's Luke Schenn? He couldn't possibly be what you'd trade for JBo, is he? That'd be a terrible deal.

If you buy out Jbo next summer, you are stuck with 2/3 of the cap hit for two years. That's $4.55 million of dead cap space.
- bmeltzer

He is definately not the number 1 guy on my list, but if Calgary is giving him away for practically free, I'll take him. Worry about the cap later.

As a last resort in order to open up 4.4 million to sign a Weber, Enstrom, Perry, or Getzlaf sure I'm serious. Of course you try and trade him first. And if he just has a NTC then you waive him. But it would be a last resort.

Definately a last resort, definately.
- RooNosHockey

Instead of a last resort, don't get him at all and save the entire amount to do a move that makes some sense. Versus trading for him, and then buying him out after one Season. Doesn't make sense on any level.

So let me get this straight. Trade for Bouwmeester for one Season, with a Cap hit of 6.8M. Then buy him out after one Season to open up 4.4M in cap space to sign another player, while having over 2M in dead Cap space on the Cap. Makes sense to me!

Where's Luke Schenn? He couldn't possibly be what you'd trade for JBo, is he? That'd be a terrible deal.
- BulliesPhan87

LoL I forgot about that guy. HAHAHAHAHAHA

LoL I forgot about that guy. HAHAHAHAHAHA
- RooNosHockey

You had me really worried for a second there

You had me really worried for a second there
- BulliesPhan87

It's been a while since I thought about that trade since I spent 2 for unsportsman like conduct. I got to watch a lot of Jeopardy and Wapner in that time, and got some new undies at k-mart. But didn't think about JVR for Schenn trade much....

At J-Bo's cap hit for the next two seasons, the Flames likely could hardly give him away even if he waives his NTC. Wouldn't trade a bag of pucks to pay him like a franchise defenseman.
- bmeltzer

Couldn't agree more. He shouldn't even be an option for the Flyers.

It's been a while since I thought about that trade since I spent 2 for unsportsman like conduct. I got to watch a lot of Jeopardy and Wapner in that time, and got some new undies at k-mart. But didn't think about JVR for Schenn trade much....
- RooNosHockey

I can understand overlooking the Schenn trade, what with the bigger headlines overshadowing it and not seeing him take the ice for us yet.

Couldn't agree more. He shouldn't even be an option for the Flyers.
- stveshdy

So he only has a NTC. So if your not giving anything up, and your shedding salary like Walker and Shelly in the process, then why not get him. You can always trade him next off-season for a late round pick. If he refuses to accept the trade then you tell him he will be waived and play in the AHL. He will waive his ntc because then the other team will just select him on waivers. Perfect 1 year deal a team like Islanders would love to get to get above the cap floor and not pay much salary....

There is a reason the Flyers might be looking into him. Like I said, not top on my list, but I wouldnt turn him down if it doesnt cost any assets.

So he only has a NTC. So if your not giving anything up, and your shedding salary like Walker and Shelly in the process, then why not get him. You can always trade him next off-season for a late round pick. If he refuses to accept the trade then you tell him he will be waived and play in the AHL. He will waive his ntc because then the other team will just select him on waivers. Perfect 1 year deal a team like Islanders would love to get to get above the cap floor and not pay much salary....

There is a reason the Flyers might be looking into him. Like I said, not top on my list, but I wouldnt turn him down if it doesnt cost any assets.
- RooNosHockey

Isn't cap space sort of an asset? I think that's all too much to go through/worry about when it's just as easy to not waste time getting him.

So he only has a NTC. So if your not giving anything up, and your shedding salary like Walker and Shelly in the process, then why not get him. You can always trade him next off-season for a late round pick. If he refuses to accept the trade then you tell him he will be waived and play in the AHL. He will waive his ntc because then the other team will just select him on waivers. Perfect 1 year deal a team like Islanders would love to get to get above the cap floor and not pay much salary....

There is a reason the Flyers might be looking into him. Like I said, not top on my list, but I wouldnt turn him down if it doesnt cost any assets.
- RooNosHockey

I dont want his money on the cap this year or next year. Especially with Edler, Enstrom, Weber (possible), Perry, etc. being available next summer. I rather have that money for next year. I understand what your saying but I rather just keep what we have an upgrade the winger spot if possible. Wait till the deadline to upgrade the defense with a second or third round pick like they did to get Kubina/Grossmann.