So you read the article?
- jak521

It's much easier to define a trade in hindsight.

That would make me a bit nervous.. defensively that would likely be our weakest line. Offensively.... well its obvious.

On the other hand, I like moving Briere from center.
- jak521

Sometimes the best defense is a good offense.

Pretty strange definition of crap. If it's crap, how is it going to get a quality player in return?
- MJL

1st round picks are not 'crap', especially when you draft like the Flyers do.

Sometimes the best defense is a good offense.
- MJL

/everybody point and laugh at Mike Milbury now.
- Tomahawk

haha you think thats bad read this one...

http://thehockeywriters.c...ntracts-and-transactions/

It's much easier to define a trade in hindsight.
- MJL

Somebody wise once said that hindsight is 50/50.

Could plausibly replace Jagr's scoring production there and it also allows Schenn greater responsibility as a 2C and see what happens.
- OrangeBlack27

Takes the defensive responsibilities of center off Briere's hands too.

Somebody wise once said that hindsight is 50/50.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn

Agreed. Burke had no idea his club would be picking no. 2 overall in the next draft when he made that trade for Kessel.

Still a horrible trade at the end of the day though IMO.

Especially considering he's in all probability going to sign in Philly at the expiration of his current deal right when he's smack in the middle of his prime... and right when Danny B comes off the books, too.
- Tomahawk

THIS

It's much easier to define a trade in hindsight.
- MJL

Sure enough, but its also easy to see off the bat which deal has the potential to be a mistake. Look no further than the Coburn deal.

Look at that Jagr deal. Look at the Hossa deal. Right off the bat those teams new what they were getting.

Thats exactly why I would never trade a great player for prospects. You need something that makes sense now. You trade Jagr in his heyday you better be getting an insane return.

Takes the defensive responsibilities of center off Briere's hands too.
- BulliesPhan87

To play devil's advocate, Briere has never excelled at wing and has been on record saying he's more comfortable in the middle.

Takes the defensive responsibilities of center off Briere's hands too.
- BulliesPhan87

Thats what I like most about the idea.

Somebody wise once said that hindsight is 50/50.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn

haha you think thats bad read this one...

http://thehockeywriters.c...ntracts-and-transactions/
- jak521

Gaborik/Heatley* - Spezza - Bertuzzi
Connolly - Jokinen - Palffy
Torres - J.P. Dumont - Pyatt

Chara - Redden
Brewer - McCabe
Kasparaitis - Berard

Luongo/Osgood/Salo


You can assemble a Cup-worthy team just comprised of his castoffs...


(*guys ranked higher than DiPietro in 2000)

Agreed. Burke had no idea his club would be picking no. 2 overall in the next draft when he made that trade for Kessel.

Still a horrible trade at the end of the day though IMO.
- LordStanley88

I disagree.. in hindsight thats a terrible move. Was it a smart move.. I dont think so.. two firsts in back to back strong drafts for a solid yet non elite forward who had question marks? But i wouldnt say horrible.

If those picks had ended up being late round picks it wouldnt be so bad.

Gaborik/Heatley* - Spezza - Bertuzzi
Connolly - Jokinen - Palffy
Torres - J.P. Dumont - Pyatt

Chara - Redden
Brewer - McCabe
Kasparaitis - Berard

Luongo/Osgood/Salo


You can assemble a Cup-worthy team just comprised of his castoffs...


(*guys ranked higher than DiPietro in 2000)
- Tomahawk

J.P. Dumont still haunts my dreams.

so you'd rather trade proven assets to keep an unproven one that likely wouldn't contribute for years?
- OrangeBlack27

"there's a lot you don't understand about the draft" -asp

Gaborik/Heatley* - Spezza - Bertuzzi
Connolly - Jokinen - Palffy
Torres - J.P. Dumont - Pyatt

Chara - Redden
Brewer - McCabe
Kasparaitis - Berard

Luongo/Osgood/Salo


You can assemble a Cup-worthy team just comprised of his castoffs...


(*guys ranked higher than DiPietro in 2000)
- Tomahawk

Crazy how inept that moron is.

Pretty strange definition of crap. If it's crap, how is it going to get a quality player in return?
- MJL

See my other posts. Please don't say it is impossible. It is. Maybe not likely, but possible.

To play devil's advocate, Briere has never excelled at wing (ftfy) and has been on record saying he's more comofrtable in the middle
- LordStanley88

He has done better since returning to the middle (offensively, at least), but given linemates he's played well with before and time to adjust to the RW, I think it could work out well.

A thought: How well did his centers back then stack up to Clode?

He has done better since returning to the middle (offensively, at least), but given linemates he's played well with before and time to adjust to the RW, I think it could work out well.

A thought: How well did his centers back then stack up to Clode?
- BulliesPhan87

Very fair point.

I disagree.. in hindsight thats a terrible move. Was it a smart move.. I dont think so.. two firsts in back to back strong drafts for a solid yet non elite forward who had question marks? But i wouldnt say horrible.

If those picks had ended up being late round picks it wouldnt be so bad.
- jak521

But they didn't.

They turned into Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton. The Bruins fleeced Burkie IMO.

Crazy how inept that moron is.
- jak521

Taking Torres over Hartnell could probably be added in there, too -- Milbury had 2 of the top-5 picks in 2000 and botched them both.

To play devil's advocate, Briere has never excelled at wing and has been on record saying he's more comfortable in the middle.
- LordStanley88

personally i would be very scared of goals against w/that line

I disagree.. in hindsight thats a terrible move. Was it a smart move.. I dont think so.. two firsts in back to back strong drafts for a solid yet non elite forward who had question marks? But i wouldnt say horrible.

If those picks had ended up being late round picks it wouldnt be so bad.
- jak521

I felt it was a terrible trade when it happened and hindsight has not changed this. There was no way Kessel alone was turning that team around. The last thing they needed was to give away first round picks.