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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 10:26 PM ET
I liked Mueller, but I wonder if the organization believes the depth chart at forward is pretty solid with Cousins and Akeson. I think the Flyers would trade for Ryan if it was Voracek + MAB or Gus + draft pick. I just can't see them parting with Read in a Ryan deal because of the cap hit combined with the production.
- ravishingone


If Mueller can achieve the potentila he's shown flashes of, he's vastly better than Akeson. Cousins projects as a third line agitator who will annoy and score 15 goals
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:26 PM ET
The whole side line with Peter McNichol was too strange
- Jsaquella






Es VEGO!
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:29 PM ET
If Mueller can achieve the potentila he's shown flashes of, he's vastly better than Akeson. Cousins projects as a third line agitator who will annoy and score 15 goals
- Jsaquella


Ah yes, the great word "if". I still think the main target is Ryan, that is probably the main reason they didn't want to take on additional salary .
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 10:29 PM ET



Es VEGO!

- aosplayo


I own two DVD's I have yet to watch. Ghostbusters 2 is one of them and Godfather 3 is t'other
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 10:30 PM ET
Ah yes, the great word "if". I still think the main target is Ryan, that is probably the main reason they didn't want to take on additional salary .
- ravishingone


I do as well, and I'm ok with that, so long as they do not overpay.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 11 @ 10:33 PM ET
If Mueller can achieve the potentila he's shown flashes of, he's vastly better than Akeson. Cousins projects as a third line agitator who will annoy and score 15 goals
- Jsaquella



Mueller's a poor skater with a concussion history... dicey combination.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:36 PM ET
I do as well, and I'm ok with that, so long as they do not overpay.
- Jsaquella


Trade for Ryan, see how the d core shakes out throughout the regular season with guys like Meszy and Schenn stepping up. If need be, move assets at the trade deadline to improve the blue line if necessary.

You going to the scrimmage this weekend?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 11 @ 10:39 PM ET
Nobody's interested in Arnott for, say, 4.5 for two years?
- 77rams



His game is hanging on by a thread, and I'm thinking he wouldn't want to sign somewhere knowing he'd be the 4th-line C.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 10:40 PM ET
Mueller's a poor skater with a concussion history... dicey combination.
- Tomahawk


The other thing is, he's never shown consistency, even before the injuries. He had a good rookie year, 54 points in 81 games, but that production dropped to 36 in 71 the next year, and the next year, he managed 37 in 69 games.

The subpar skating is part of that, but even when he was healthy he never really managed to build off the encouraging rookie year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 10:41 PM ET
Trade for Ryan, see how the d core shakes out throughout the regular season with guys like Meszy and Schenn stepping up. If need be, move assets at the trade deadline to improve the blue line if necessary.

You going to the scrimmage this weekend?

- ravishingone


Depends on the price for Ryan. I'm perfectly content to start the year as is.

I plan on going Sunday. Might meet some others folks there. Pretty sure nastyflyergirl will be there.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:44 PM ET
Peter Mueller to Florida, 1 year $1.75mm
- Jsaquella



frank. i wanted that to be us.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:52 PM ET
The whole side line with Peter McNichol was too strange
- Jsaquella



probly my fave character in 2
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 11 @ 10:52 PM ET
Nobody's interested in Arnott for, say, 4.5 for two years?
- 77rams


second year is a bit scary, but i'd be cool with giving him around what he got last year
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:53 PM ET
I own two DVD's I have yet to watch. Ghostbusters 2 is one of them and Godfather 3 is t'other
- Jsaquella


they'll make good coasters.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 10:53 PM ET


probly my fave character in 2

- Crimsoninja


Actually 2 wasn't that bad, but based on how much I loved the first one, I expected more.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 11 @ 11:00 PM ET
Actually 2 wasn't that bad, but based on how much I loved the first one, I expected more.
- Jsaquella

i fully understand the need for a cutoff
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:09 PM ET
i fully understand the need for a cutoff
- Crimsoninja


Like Hangover 3...no need for it. No need for two really, although I'm happy Iron Mike got a paycheck
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:14 PM ET
His game is hanging on by a thread, and I'm thinking he wouldn't want to sign somewhere knowing he'd be the 4th-line C.
- Tomahawk


Maybe a couple of steps behind where he used to be, but a 17 goal and a plus 13 last year says to me he can still keep up. Decent on face offs.

What line he'd play on would be an issue.

77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:18 PM ET
Actually 2 wasn't that bad, but based on how much I loved the first one, I expected more.
- Jsaquella


I've seen worse sequels. I was hoping for a little more as well.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:20 PM ET
Would anyone be interested in acquiring Ryan while not parting with Jake? Some combo of Read, prospects, picks, and maybe a d-man?

Hartnell-G-Ryan and Simmonds-Briere-Voracek look mighty nice as our top 2 lines. Schenn-Coots-Feds, Wellwood-Talbot-Rinaldo/Sestito.... meh?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:34 PM ET
Would anyone be interested in acquiring Ryan while not parting with Jake? Some combo of Read, prospects, picks, and maybe a d-man?

Hartnell-G-Ryan and Simmonds-Briere-Voracek look mighty nice as our top 2 lines. Schenn-Coots-Feds, Wellwood-Talbot-Rinaldo/Sestito.... meh?

- Rocktane


Like schenn on line 2


Harts. G. Ryan
Schenn briere chek
Talbot. Coots. Simmonds
Wellwood rusty and rinaldo


I would do that deal yesterday. Ryan may be a top 50 player in the league (according to some). Read is not.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 11 @ 11:34 PM ET
The other thing is, he's never shown consistency, even before the injuries. He had a good rookie year, 54 points in 81 games, but that production dropped to 36 in 71 the next year, and the next year, he managed 37 in 69 games.

The subpar skating is part of that, but even when he was healthy he never really managed to build off the encouraging rookie year.

- Jsaquella



22 of those 54 points were on the PP, when he was manning the point on their top PP unit and leading all their forwards in PP icetime. Unless he's going to be given that kind of role in Florida, he'll be hard pressed to come even close to his rookie season numbers, because he's often a non-factor 5v5.
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