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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 5:13 PM ET
Well he was a crap Goalie, so he converted to Defense when he signed with LA as a UFA.
- MJL


Just making a reference to one of his amazing "saves" during the Pittsburg SC run.

Probably a poor reference on my part.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 11 @ 5:13 PM ET
Well he was a crap Goalie, so he converted to Defense when he signed with LA as a UFA.
- MJL


How many conversions from G to a player have there been at the NHL level? That seems pretty rare to me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 5:14 PM ET
How many conversions from G to a player have there been at the NHL level? That seems pretty rare to me.
- FlyersFirst
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Yea it is. My reply was sarcasm, not factual.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 11 @ 5:21 PM ET
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Yea it is. My reply was sarcasm, not factual.

- MJL


Yeah, i thought so, but had to check.
I just went back and looked at thoes saves he made with 1:30 left vs. Det. Crazy . . . .
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 11 @ 5:22 PM ET
Heeelllloooooo hooooligans!

What's shakin'?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 5:25 PM ET
Heeelllloooooo hooooligans!

What's shakin'?

- flyer_nutter


Dude, you're nuts.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:24 PM ET
I don't foresee NY, LA, etc. pursuing him given their needs and current roster. Things could always change though.
- LordStanley88

Nyr have the most young pieces to pull it off. I think what they have could be very attractive to Nashville. Staal, Stepan, anisomov, 1st?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 11 @ 6:42 PM ET
Well he was a crap Goalie, so he converted to Defense when he signed with LA as a UFA.
- MJL

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 11 @ 6:43 PM ET
Dude, you're nuts.
- Daman

Thank you for using the proper contraction as your third word and not its homonym.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:44 PM ET
Is Carle that much better than Vlasic? Seriously, I don't know much about Vlasic, I just know he's a young promising Dman. It just feels like that's the deal Carle shouldve had with us in a perfect world, but the market dictated otherwise
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 11 @ 6:54 PM ET
Is Carle that much better than Vlasic? Seriously, I don't know much about Vlasic, I just know he's a young promising Dman. It just feels like that's the deal Carle shouldve had with us in a perfect world, but the market dictated otherwise
- aosplayo

He signed his contract extension four years ago. Thus, that's not a fair comparison.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:56 PM ET
He signed his contract extension four years ago. Thus, that's not a fair comparison.
- Flyskippy





Good point, I just miss Carle. Not that the D isn't good now, but it'd be absolutely disgusting with him in there..........and everyone healthy of course
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:02 PM ET
Is Carle that much better than Vlasic? Seriously, I don't know much about Vlasic, I just know he's a young promising Dman. It just feels like that's the deal Carle shouldve had with us in a perfect world, but the market dictated otherwise
- aosplayo

I'd say Carle is an upgrade to Vlasic but they should most certainly be in the same price range.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 11 @ 7:02 PM ET
Good point, I just miss Carle. Not that the D isn't good now, but it'd be absolutely disgusting with him in there..........and everyone healthy of course
- aosplayo

And only 1 player waiver-eligible, who will probably get sent to Adirondack because of it.

I hate the cap...
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:04 PM ET
You guys see the Leafs are going to try and have JvR be their top line center?
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 11 @ 7:05 PM ET
And only 1 player waiver-eligible, who will probably get sent to Adirondack because of it.

I hate the cap...

- Flyskippy




I miss the arms races between philly, detroit, new york, and Toronto........that didnt get us anywhere either though
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:06 PM ET
Well he was a crap Goalie, so he converted to Defense when he signed with LA as a UFA.
- MJL

He was pretty clutch in net for Pittsburgh when needed, as I recall.
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=43536
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:08 PM ET
And only 1 player waiver-eligible, who will probably get sent to Adirondack because of it.

I hate the cap...

- Flyskippy

Yeah the cap blows.
Casualties of the cap keep occurring too. There's almost no way to avoid them especially when you're as competitive and spending to the cap year in year out as the Flyers are.

RIP R.J. Umberger
RIP Scottie Upshall
RIP Simone Gagne
RIP Jagr
RIP Carle
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 11 @ 7:14 PM ET
He signed his contract extension four years ago. Thus, that's not a fair comparison.
- Flyskippy


Vlasic signed a 5 year extension today for 4.2M/year
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 7:14 PM ET
You guys see the Leafs are going to try and have JvR be their top line center?
- Pixote Andolini

Yeah, that's not going to end well.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:17 PM ET
Is Carle that much better than Vlasic? Seriously, I don't know much about Vlasic, I just know he's a young promising Dman. It just feels like that's the deal Carle shouldve had with us in a perfect world, but the market dictated otherwise
- aosplayo


The difference between locking up a player when he is still under contract, versus a player testing Free Agency.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:19 PM ET
Yeah the cap blows.
Casualties of the cap keep occurring too. There's almost no way to avoid them especially when you're as competitive and spending to the cap year in year out as the Flyers are.

RIP R.J. Umberger
RIP Scottie Upshall
RIP Simone Gagne
RIP Jagr
RIP Carle

- Pixote Andolini


Keep in mind that neither Carle or Jagr were casualties of the Cap. It was either the player choosing to go elsewhere, or the Flyers not being willing to match offers.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 7:25 PM ET
Keep in mind that neither Carle or Jagr were casualties of the Cap. It was either the player choosing to go elsewhere, or the Flyers not being willing to match offers.
- MJL


Flyers just didn't want to commit to Carle. Jagr's asking price was ridiculous and no way should they consider that offer Dallas gave.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 11 @ 7:30 PM ET
Keep in mind that neither Carle or Jagr were casualties of the Cap. It was either the player choosing to go elsewhere, or the Flyers not being willing to match offers.
- MJL


I miss the days when Mr. Snyder locked in on a free agent, went to the bowels of the Spectrum/ CoreStates/FU Center/Wachovia Center...and printed whatever money he needed to sign the guy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:38 PM ET
I miss the days when Mr. Snyder locked in on a free agent, went to the bowels of the Spectrum/ CoreStates/FU Center/Wachovia Center...and printed whatever money he needed to sign the guy.
- 77rams


I can't tell you what happened with Carle. Either the player changed his stance, or the team did. That's the risk you take letting a player get to Free Agency. Carle was a loss for the team, but life goes on. The Flyers were fine before Carle, and will be successful without him. Other players are going to get some opportunities. And that can be a very good thing.
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