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LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:50 PM ET
Really? So the team that trades for him is going to lock him up long-term?

After watching what Suter got I dont see how he doesnt test the market unless the team that trades for him gives him the 12-14 yr, 126M contract.

- stveshdy


Yea, unless he gets traded this off-season then I foresee him hitting FA.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:50 PM ET
Watch him stay in Nashville for 10 years anyway wouldn't that be some poop.
- JoeRussomanno


I would be okay with that. Still have the opportunity to add Edler or Enstrom. Now neither is Weber but still would be a solid add to the roster.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:50 PM ET
Really? So the team that trades for him is going to lock him up long-term?

After watching what Suter got I dont see how he doesnt test the market unless the team that trades for him gives him the 12-14 yr, 126M contract.

- stveshdy

Because I think teams are gonna wanna get a leg up in negotiations.. and then just by seeing how things worked this year... they will give him something crazy... 12@135mil... Then again the CBA could change that quick.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:51 PM ET
I would be okay with that. Still have the opportunity to add Edler or Enstrom. Now neither is Weber but still would be a solid add to the roster.
- stveshdy

hey we have the Schenner 270 hits!!!!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:52 PM ET
hey we have the Schenner 270 hits!!!!
- JoeRussomanno


Schenn should be a solid player for the Flyers this year.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:53 PM ET
Because I think teams are gonna wanna get a leg up in negotiations.. and then just by seeing how things worked this year... they will give him something crazy... 12@135mil... Then again the CBA could change that quick.
- jak521


There was talk about him wanting to play in Canada b/c he is from there. I believe it was Edmonton. Not sure if I believe that though.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:53 PM ET
I'm sure with the nature of discussion concerning the loss of Matt Carle, and the supposed need of a topline winger we could use Sbisa and Lupul right about now. Even if that hit never happened, Pronger would be an aging Player and we'd still be looking for a cup.
- JoeRussomanno


True but Weber isn't aging and, while there's a risk of injury, it's still quite low. You can replace Schenn, Couts, Mez/Voracek/Read but there are only a couple of comparable players to Weber.

Besides, how many huge trades ever benefit the team receiving the prospects, historically? These things are mutually exclusive but I think its worth mentioning.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:54 PM ET
Doesn't make a difference anyway cause EK is hearing the Flyers are talking about JayBo....


Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:56 PM ET
I fixed that for ya
- JoeRussomanno


A little Alice in Chains reference there that may not have been noticed.
Manitobakid
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 11 @ 4:07 PM ET
Doesn't make a difference anyway cause EK is hearing the Flyers are talking about JayBo....



- stveshdy


Christ - I hope not. I'd like him for about 4 per year.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:11 PM ET
Caps sign Wolski for 600k
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:15 PM ET
Doesn't make a difference anyway cause EK is hearing the Flyers are talking about JayBo....



- stveshdy


Send Briere back and its a deal. God that would be amazing
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:20 PM ET
Caps sign Wolski for 600k
- aightwebang17

low risk move there...
Manitobakid
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 11 @ 4:31 PM ET
low risk move there...
- jak521


I like it better than some of the depth moves we have made.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:31 PM ET
I would not trade Giroux for Weber. Giroux is a special player among special players and is a steal at his current contract. Weber is a top 5 d-man, I know, but without Giroux I think this offense would flounder.

Besides it would totally ruin my SN.

- RooNosHockey


Weber is also a special player among special players. Weber is as much of a star player as Giroux is. Even more so.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:35 PM ET
No not what I am saying.. I am saying G has a gift when it comes to hockey skills.. He is supremely talented.. I think Weber is physically gifted and talented. I dont think he has supreme skill. Cannon shot, good skater, decent passer... but its his size that sets him apart. He dominates people because of his size.

Now what I mean by making players better... Putting G on the ice with two other forwards... he will create offense no matter what. I dont know if that the case with Weber... but Weber will shut other top players down alone.. so that is a boost for him... Its a super tough trade to make because it is so close.

- jak521


I think Weber does the exact same things for a team that Giroux does. Isn't size and physical ability a skill? It is super tough. And I'd hate to be faced with that decision. If the Flyers were to trade Giroux for Weber. I'd be elated and pissed at the same time. It would be an emotional roller coaster.
Manitobakid
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 11 @ 4:39 PM ET
I think Weber does the exact same things for a team that Giroux does. Isn't size and physical ability a skill? It is super tough. And I'd hate to be faced with that decision. If the Flyers were to trade Giroux for Weber. I'd be elated and pissed at the same time. It would be an emotional roller coaster.
- MJL



If we could sign Weber long term, I'd be willing to let Cooter go.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:40 PM ET
I think Weber does the exact same things for a team that Giroux does. Isn't size and physical ability a skill? It is super tough. And I'd hate to be faced with that decision. If the Flyers were to trade Giroux for Weber. I'd be elated and pissed at the same time. It would be an emotional roller coaster.
- MJL


Age is the wild card...keep Giroux
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:41 PM ET
09 pens had Gonchar who was one of the best offensive D-men in the league.
01 Avs had both Rob Blake and Ray Bourque

- jak521


And the Pens had a very deep D core with Orpik, Goligoski, Scuderi, and Letang
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:43 PM ET
I've said before that I'd offer up Schenn, Couturier, Read, Voracek, Meszaros and 3 1sts for Weber if need be. He would have a greater contribution to the team than those guys but not Giroux, especially from a team PR standpoint. Fans would be outraged if G was dealt. Gotta take the business side into account as well.
- NickTheKid87



Let's not get carried away here.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 11 @ 4:48 PM ET
Let's not get carried away here.
- MJL


seriously, that's like three times what edmonton got for gretzky lol
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 11 @ 4:54 PM ET
Caps sign Wolski for 600k
- aightwebang17


shrewd, low-risk move by gmgm that could pay dividends.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:55 PM ET
Gostisbehere did look like a very fluid skater on the day I was up at Voorhees. I found it funny that there were as many players born in Florida as there were from Pennsylvania at the camp.
- Jsaquella


It's a brave new world
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 5:01 PM ET
And the Pens had a very deep D core with Orpik, Goligoski, Scuderi, and Letang
- MJL


I thought Scuderi was a goalie?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 5:04 PM ET
I thought Scuderi was a goalie?
- Daman


Well he was a crap Goalie, so he converted to Defense when he signed with LA as a UFA.
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