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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:37 PM ET
is that also u?
- Don'tForgetTocchet


If I said yes, I would be banned for sure.

So instead, If you ask me the question if I'm a fat man in a box, maybe I'm just fat. Or, maybe just a man in a box.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:37 PM ET
Those numbers were for a Giroux extension.

I realize Weber will cost $100+ mill in FA.

- LordStanley88


haha I saw and edited according. My bad.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
And Giroux won't give us a slight discount? Why not?
- LordStanley88


I dont know what Giroux will do. Maybe he does if they sign him to a long-term contract.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
Even for Weber, it's a staunch no. Giroux isn't going anywhere, and you'd be on crack to think otherwise.
- LordStanley88

I'm not arguing for or against just saying both sides have some Validity. Me I'd have to lean towards no. He's my son's favorite player I don't feel like dealing with a pissed of 6 y/o on top of my twins in their terrible two's.

From my lips to God's ears I never said one thing about who to pick as their favorite Flyer in my house. When we all went to a game this past season, My sister asked my son who his favorite Flyer is. My son without a thought replies "28". I don't use numbers when referring to players and if he asked me who my fav is I'd say Hartnell. Funny how kids pick up things.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
As much as I love Weber there is no way I could give all that up for him. Hes one player that will have a high cap hit. Your team would be shredded if you made that deal of Schenn, Couturier, Read, Voracek, Mez and 3 1st rounders. Thats a big time overpayment IMO.
- stveshdy


Maybe I got carried away but I'd give up Schenn, Couts and one of the other 3 for Weber plus a pick or two.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
For Weber, I wouldn't be shocked if he got 13-14 years at $120 mill on the open market.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
If I said yes, I would be considered funny for a change.

So instead, If you ask me the question if I'm a fat man in a box, maybe I'm just fat. Or, maybe just a man in a box.

- Daman

I fixed that for ya
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:39 PM ET
For Weber, I wouldn't be shocked if he got 13-14 years at $120 mill on the open market.
- LordStanley88

Agreed. 14 years, 126 mil.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:40 PM ET
I'm not arguing for or against just saying both sides have some Validity. Me I'd have to lean towards no. He's my son's favorite player I don't feel like dealing with a pissed of 6 y/o on top of my twins in their terrible two's.

From my lips to God's ears I never said one thing about who to pick as their favorite Flyer in my house. When we all went to a game this past season, My sister asked my son who his favorite Flyer is. My son without a thought replies "28". I don't use numbers when referring to players and if he asked me who my fav is I'd say Hartnell. Funny how kids pick up things.

- JoeRussomanno


I don't feel as though both sides have validity. You don't trade young franchise players, especially one that is, IMO, a top 5 player in the league.

Weber may be that too, but he's only available because he's a soon-to-be UFA on a small market team.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
Maybe I got carried away but I'd give up Schenn, Couts and one of the other 3 for Weber plus a pick or two.
- NickTheKid87

see I don't like giving up multiple roster players plus picks for one guy. One hit and that's a career. I know Weber is great but geez look what we gave up for Pronger and it's kinda squandered due to an innocent stick to the face.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
So who's got a Twitter on here? I love to chat about hockey on there when I'm not on HB. I know I already follow some of you. Hit me up at @NickTheKid87.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
Perry will get $100 million easily too.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:42 PM ET
Maybe I got carried away but I'd give up Schenn, Couts and one of the other 3 for Weber plus a pick or two.
- NickTheKid87


stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:42 PM ET
Agreed. 14 years, 126 mil.
- aightwebang17


Thats a big time offer and I can see the Flyers offering that deal during free agency.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:43 PM ET
I don't feel as though both sides have validity. You don't trade young franchise players, especially one that is, IMO, a top 5 player in the league.

Weber may be that too, but he's only available because he's a soon-to-be UFA on a small market team.

- LordStanley88

While that's all true, if he landed in a major franchise I think he'd become a longtime Free agent. Like i said, I wouldn't do the trade but if Homer was willing, I'd feel like it was JVR for Schenn again this time with much higher stakes.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:43 PM ET
Thats a big time offer and I can see the Flyers offering that deal during free agency.
- stveshdy


Biggest competition will likely be Detroit.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:43 PM ET
see I don't like giving up multiple roster players plus picks for one guy. One hit and that's a career. I know Weber is great but geez look what we gave up for Pronger and it's kinda squandered due to an innocent stick to the face.
- JoeRussomanno


That's not necessarily true because he did help us get to the Cup in '10. It's not the ultimate prize but have Sbisa, Lupul, John Moore and Emerson Etem done that much worth missing?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:45 PM ET
Biggest competition will likely be Detroit.
- LordStanley88


When it comes to Weber all the big market teams will be in on it.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:45 PM ET
That's not necessarily true because he did help us get to the Cup in '10. It's not the ultimate prize but have Sbisa, Lupul, John Moore and Emerson Etem done that much worth missing?
- NickTheKid87

I'm sure with the nature of discussion concerning the loss of Matt Carle, and the supposed need of a topline winger we could use Sbisa and Lupul right about now. Even if that hit never happened, Pronger would be an aging Player and we'd still be looking for a cup.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:45 PM ET
When it comes to Weber all the big market deals will be in on it.
- stveshdy

I dont think he will hit UFA... gut feeling.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:46 PM ET
While that's all true, if he landed in a major franchise I think he'd become a longtime Free agent. Like i said, I wouldn't do the trade but if Homer was willing, I'd feel like it was JVR for Schenn again this time with much higher stakes.
- JoeRussomanno


I see what you're saying, but just don't think it's realistic whatsoever.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:47 PM ET
I see what you're saying, but just don't think it's realistic whatsoever.
- LordStanley88

The realistic attribute is a whole other discussion. Who knows what goes on in these talks between Gullible Men er I mean General Managers.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:48 PM ET
When it comes to Weber all the big market deals will be in on it.
- stveshdy


I don't foresee NY, LA, etc. pursuing him given their needs and current roster. Things could always change though.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:48 PM ET
I dont think he will hit UFA... gut feeling.
- jak521


Really? So the team that trades for him is going to lock him up long-term?

After watching what Suter got I dont see how he doesnt test the market unless the team that trades for him gives him the 12-14 yr, 126M contract.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:48 PM ET
Really? So the team that trades for him is going to lock him up long-term?

After watching what Suter got I dont see how he doesnt test the market unless the team that trades for him gives him the 12-14 yr, 126M contract.

- stveshdy

Watch him stay in Nashville for 10 years anyway wouldn't that be some poop.
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