I would.
- Pilgor09

Say goodbye to Eberle.

Alzner would be more realistic. Gagner + probably, but they acquired Robiero so I couldn't see a fit.
- Pilgor09

If anything, Alzner would cost more. While Carlson has a somewhat higher ceiling than Alzner, the latter has proven himself FAR more consistent than the former. Alzner was able to maintain a high level of play, demonstrating excellent shut down ability and solid offensive output alongside both Mike Green and Dennis Wideman. Carlson, on the other hand, struggled from the outset of his separation from his regular partner. If you recall, there were a good 10-20 games where Carlson seemed to have fallen out of favour in Washington (Richard wrote a blog centered the trade possibility, in fact). By the end of the season and after being reunited with his partner, his play trended upwards once again and he finished strong. This coupled with the fact that he's their only legit shutdown d-man, and you've got evidence enough to support my theory that Alzner holds more trade value as of this moment. Give it another season, though, and Carlson could be the runaway leader here!

You want to talk about giveaways? Watch Smyth.

Worst in the league for terrible decision making in the defensive end.

Give that time to Hartikainen cause you know at least hell throw his weight around.
- Pilgor09

I am not the biggest Smyth fan, but to say he isn't NHL caliber is just plain stupid. Hartikainen can dish out some more hits, but Smyth brings a lot more and will take a lot more punishment to make a play. Harti will get his chance soon, but to put another near rookie in a line up of mostly 2nd and 3rd year players at the expense of a vet is asking for disaster.(again)

I would have loved to get my hands on Eakin. Too bad he just got traded.
- Pilgor09

DAL would prob want another prospect in return if EDM ever needed Eakin. Does he have enough upside for 2C?

Sorry Clouts, but that deal doesn't sound right. I don't think Phoenix wants Hemsky. Is it just me or does this guy have negative trade value. I'd do that deal if it was

Edm 1st, Edm 2nd, Gagner, Paajarvi for Yandle, Lessio

If you don't like it, tank and get MacKinnon like we expect you to

DAL would prob want another prospect in return if EDM ever needed Eakin. Does he have enough upside for 2C?
- deks1

More likely a 3rd line center.

I think he turns into a Brandon Sutter.

Say goodbye to Eberle.

Alzner would be more realistic. Gagner + probably, but they acquired Robiero so I couldn't see a fit.
- Pilgor09

I once brought up parting with Eberle for a young top pairing defenseman and got flamed for three pages straight.

As Oil fans do you drink the crude stuff or is it just in your blood to be this delusional?

Be happy you have a bright future.. Stop thinking Gagner or PRV is going to get you players like Yandle or Green when used as the center piece.

Fan is short for Fanatic.. So we are all riding the same wave, unfortunately some are riding in reality and some are riding the drool on their pillow in the middle of the night.

I hate the Oil but their fun to watch.. Stop playing with Leafs fans in your spare time they are rubbing off on you.

Cheers

I would.
- Pilgor09

You are also supposed to change your avatar...

To those who said Todd Nelson didn't want to come to the NHL...

I am a big fan of the Oilers and their rebuild.

However, I am starting to get irritated with blogs that start off with listing the 10 players that are untouchable followed by a formula of also rans who might be dealt for a needed player. It sounds an awful lot like the Canadiens of a few years ago who danced around the trade edges never really figuring out what they wanted or needed to do. The problem with this is you end up taking a Gomez contract and giving up a secondary talent like McDonaugh who was middle of the pack in terms of expectations.

At some point in time the Oilers are going to have to do a deal to bring in players to fill the holes in their roster. They need a dominant power forward (Ryan, Nash, Doan, Lucic) and they need a guy to play the #1D position (Weber, Yendle, J.Bo).

You need to think about what another team will offer. Say, for example, if the Flyers offer the 2 Schenns, Voracek and a #1 pick for Weber could the Oilers beat their proposal. You might not want to beat it but it is silly to pretend that somehow an Oiler offer for peripheral players would sneak through without anyone paying attention.

If you want to formulate a proposal for a trade, at least think about what another team might offer for that player.

According to Caps beat writer C Gormley, the Caps were told by Doan's agent they are not on his list and the only teams that are: Det,Pit and LA. Van might make the list. That's it. So forget about him in Edm

I am a big fan of the Oilers and their rebuild.

However, I am starting to get irritated with blogs that start off with listing the 10 players that are untouchable followed by a formula of also rans who might be dealt for a needed player. It sounds an awful lot like the Canadiens of a few years ago who danced around the trade edges never really figuring out what they wanted or needed to do. The problem with this is you end up taking a Gomez contract and giving up a secondary talent like McDonaugh who was middle of the pack in terms of expectations.

At some point in time the Oilers are going to have to do a deal to bring in players to fill the holes in their roster. They need a dominant power forward (Ryan, Nash, Doan, Lucic) and they need a guy to play the #1D position (Weber, Yendle, J.Bo).

You need to think about what another team will offer. Say, for example, if the Flyers offer the 2 Schenns, Voracek and a #1 pick for Weber could the Oilers beat their proposal. You might not want to beat it but it is silly to pretend that somehow an Oiler offer for peripheral players would sneak through without anyone paying attention.

If you want to formulate a proposal for a trade, at least think about what another team might offer for that player.
- spatso

OMG.... someone has finally said it. The Oilers have some great young talent, but also have some glaring holes, especially on D. I have read over and over where the "Untouchables" can't be used as a pivot player in a trade. If it wasn't for Gagner's week long tear last year, his name would have disappeared into oblivion by now, and a bucket of used but good pucks would have been more then enough to get Oiler management to flip him. But now the list of UN-touchables has expanded past Hall, Eberle, yakupov, Nuge and schultz to include: Dubnyk, Smid, Gagner and Klefboom? Richard, you write good blogs, entertaining blogs, but seriously. Yandle is without a doubt one of the top 15 Dmen in the league, his game has grown so he is not only an offensive weapon, but very responsible in his own end. Talent like that isn't just cast away for another teams also rans. To say a pool of players like Ales Hemsky, Magnus Paajarvi, Theo Peckham plus which ever #1 pick can get you a talent like Yandle is kinda silly.

Hemsky.... he could garner some trade value, but the last 2 - 3 years has been too often injured. The Hemsky of old, he had value, but he has to now go back out and hit the ice hard and prove he is worth something. that will be hard to do when he is always the centre of trade talk. As it stands, he is too big a risk and too high priced for anyone to consider moving an all-star player.
Any deal for Yandle should have been worked out before the draft, then it would have been a couple fringe players and a #1 pick, but now that pick has a name, he has sentiment and added value added to that name. Yandle could have been had for a #1 pick swap, and maybe Gagner and/or Hemsky. Too late for that now.

If anything, Alzner would cost more. While Carlson has a somewhat higher ceiling than Alzner, the latter has proven himself FAR more consistent than the former. Alzner was able to maintain a high level of play, demonstrating excellent shut down ability and solid offensive output alongside both Mike Green and Dennis Wideman. Carlson, on the other hand, struggled from the outset of his separation from his regular partner. If you recall, there were a good 10-20 games where Carlson seemed to have fallen out of favour in Washington (Richard wrote a blog centered the trade possibility, in fact). By the end of the season and after being reunited with his partner, his play trended upwards once again and he finished strong. This coupled with the fact that he's their only legit shutdown d-man, and you've got evidence enough to support my theory that Alzner holds more trade value as of this moment. Give it another season, though, and Carlson could be the runaway leader here!
- MaximumBone

Caps are building around Carlson and Alzner. So unless you're willing to deal one of your young stars they are untouchable. Caps would be more than willing to listen on Green.

Lol hemsky isn't worth much, if Phoenix is gonna trade yandle they'll want a good return that probably starts with a dman. Don't think he's even moved, but if he is it will be for more then hemsky and some throw ins.

Richard Cloutier: Dream a Little Dream
- Maxbone

You wanna know where Doan is going to sign? Two words and you're going to hate it.

Vancouver Canucks !!!!

Why do I think this?

- Doan wants to stay in Phoenix because it's his home.
- Did you know that Doan spends the offseason in Kelowna and trains with..... Shea Weber !!!!!!
- Doan is at the point of his career where he'll be chasing a ring not helping a rebuild.

I like it when you touch my junk.
- laughs2907

Once you go ginger you'll never go back... LB will not be happy that his soul mate is having an emotional affair !!

I once brought up parting with Eberle for a young top pairing defenseman and got flamed for three pages straight.
- Jack-artist

Pilgor isn't advocating the idea of trading Eberle. Just pointing out what it would cost to land Carlson.

The Coyotes are a sinking ship? Weren't they just in the conference finals this year while you guys picked first overall again?

Also, how do you expect to trade for Keith Yandle with so many teams interested when you make every player with even a little value untouchable? PHX doesn't want Teemu Hartkainen for Yandle lol

Hi Richard, since we are dreaming, any chance at all the Oilers lose Horcoff? Not looking for any return, just getting him away.

Once you go ginger you'll never go back... LB will not be happy that his soul mate is having an emotional affair !!
- Starbuck

The Coyotes are a sinking ship? Weren't they just in the conference finals this year while you guys picked first overall again?

Also, how do you expect to trade for Keith Yandle with so many teams interested when you make every player with even a little value untouchable? PHX doesn't want Teemu Hartkainen for Yandle lol
- isles10289

What does Edm's draft positioning have to do with Phx's hemorrhagic loss of 10s of millions annually?

"Obviously, if you're Edmonton, you're not going to give up Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Gagner, Yakupov, Dubnyk, Petry, Smid, Nick Schultz, Justin Schultz or Klefbom," hahah you're such an idiot.

Obviously, if you're Edmonton, you're not going to give up Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Gagner, Yakupov, Dubnyk, Petry, Smid, Nick Schultz, Justin Schultz or Klefbom.

when I read this, I thought, "here we go again." but the offered deal wasn;t terrible. I do think that hemsky would have to be replaced with gagner, as the yotes need a center. but gagner , 3013 first, and pvr would be a good start. peckham not so much. they might go for that... but if instead you threw in a musil or other decent d-prospect, I would think they would have a hard time passing that up.

ooops 2013 1st.

i think PRV flips the puck in the glove cause he is a puss. He doesn't have the strength like hall to go to the net hard
- Killbot460

I think he is just as strong if not stronger than Hall... Its just that PVR has a mild temperment and did not know how to apply it... I look for great things from him in the future... he has size and speed something we lack... give the kid 20 more lbs and a feisty attitude and some fans will change their minds rather quickly... Remember- Hall for a 1/3 of the games last year would continually try to burn to the outside and shoot the puck at the goalies chest...