HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
|
|
|
Yes please. Would be a great fit and he's the type of player Shero likes to go after (Roberts, Rechi, Guerin). He fits right in with that group. A grizzly vet with great leadership and can still play. I think we were missing that last year. - kfinl170
Doan, is a good fit for as long as he stays healthy at 35. Question is: Will he REALLY leave Pheonix at all? He can look over option, and they will be there, but does he really leave? I'm not so sure he does. Doan and Iginla are two of these guys we always see as great options but never seem willing to part with their current teams if the idea is brought up. I have no problem with that. Doan is a great guy for all aspects of a team, love to have him. We'll see pretty soon if he really is gonna jump, or if he's buying more time |
|
|
|
Yeah, it's because of his motivation. Again, he's got issues, but just saying he's some one-dimensional scrub is inaccurate. He's better than that when he's on his game, which is why if he signs some 1 year deal for this season, that team is likely to get great numbers out of him. Is he the next Gretzky? Obviously not. He's just a lot better than people give him credit for. - isles10289
But I assume you think he would be a great fit for the Pens despite his many issues?
He signed what two, one-year deals with the Capitals, right? That tells me the Caps were sold on going long term. Why is that?
|
|
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY Joined: 04.19.2007
|
|
|
To be fair he has averaged about .88 PPG for his carrer. He had a down year last year, but the entire Washington offense did. - ImThatGuy
Yet Washington doesnt want anything to do with him anymore and he is still unsigned even though the free agent pool is extremely thin. |
|
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Joined: 06.29.2012
|
|
|
Doan, is a good fit for as long as he stays healthy at 35. Question is: Will he REALLY leave Pheonix at all? He can look over option, and they will be there, but does he really leave? I'm not so sure he does. Doan and Iginla are two of these guys we always see as great options but never seem willing to part with their current teams if the idea is brought up. I have no problem with that. Doan is a great guy for all aspects of a team, love to have him. We'll see pretty soon if he really is gonna jump, or if he's buying more time - HopintheCordoba
I think if he's looking over his options he's seriously considering leaving. Of he truly does want to leave the pens should get him. |
|
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
|
|
|
There's no chance they would separate Neal and malkin is what I was trying to say especially for semin. It doesn't fit. If they did bring semin in it would be for malkin. There's acctually no reason I should be reading this any way there's is no chance the pens sign this scrub. - Genev21
I loved the Neal-Malkin-Kunitz production as well. I don't really favor the idea of breaking that up, but that isn't the top line anymore. They will have plenty of ice time, but the top line is Sid's and I just see them(if they signed Semin)putting him with Malkin and letting Neal play with Sid. The way the offense clicked with that formula, its a similar fit, Bylsma knows it can work. I truly believe thats the way to go. Time will tell, Semin isn't my favorite but I trust Shero. If he signs him on a short deal and he's productive then great. If he passes, then theres not much shock based on the fact that hes not already signed by someone. He probably fits better in Detroit IMO with Datsyuk and Zetterberg |
|
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils |
|
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ Joined: 01.26.2012
|
|
|
Doan, is a good fit for as long as he stays healthy at 35. Question is: Will he REALLY leave Pheonix at all? He can look over option, and they will be there, but does he really leave? I'm not so sure he does. Doan and Iginla are two of these guys we always see as great options but never seem willing to part with their current teams if the idea is brought up. I have no problem with that. Doan is a great guy for all aspects of a team, love to have him. We'll see pretty soon if he really is gonna jump, or if he's buying more time - HopintheCordoba
If he does wind up leaving PHX, which won't happen until if the ownership is sorted out and even then he might stay there, I doubt he goes far from there. LA and San Jose will most definitely try to sign him, and probably Anaheim too. He could go to Pittsburgh, but ultimately, the other SW teams would probably be a lot more enticing to him. |
|
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
|
|
|
I think if he's looking over his options he's seriously considering leaving. Of he truly does want to leave the pens should get him. - Genev21
Yeah, he's certainly a capable veteran that can do everything that you need for leadership and hasn't dropped off tremendously in skill. They won't hesitate to give him and his agent a call I'm sure. Won't break the bank for the future |
|
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
|
|
|
If he does wind up leaving PHX, which won't happen until if the ownership is sorted out and even then he might stay there, I doubt he goes far from there. LA and San Jose will most definitely try to sign him, and probably Anaheim too. He could go to Pittsburgh, but ultimately, the other SW teams would probably be a lot more enticing to him. - _Zippy_
I don't want to speculate where he would go if he left. I can't disagree because it's all up in the air and those are all contending teams. If I had to guess, he stays in Pheonix |
|
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings |
|
|
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!! Joined: 01.24.2010
|
|
|
Malkin could be a huge factor with Semin. Malkin has a good work ethic and Semin could feed off that. Ovi has a I do what I want mentality. Semin could learn alot from Malkin. Same goes for Datsyuk. Semin is a good fit for Pitt and Det. |
|
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Location: PGH, PA Joined: 07.09.2012
|
|
|
I loved the Neal-Malkin-Kunitz production as well. I don't really favor the idea of breaking that up, but that isn't the top line anymore. They will have plenty of ice time, but the top line is Sid's and I just see them(if they signed Semin)putting him with Malkin and letting Neal play with Sid. The way the offense clicked with that formula, its a similar fit, Bylsma knows it can work. I truly believe thats the way to go. Time will tell, Semin isn't my favorite but I trust Shero. If he signs him on a short deal and he's productive then great. If he passes, then theres not much shock based on the fact that hes not already signed by someone. He probably fits better in Detroit IMO with Datsyuk and Zetterberg - HopintheCordoba
I am sorry but I think we gotta keep the malkin line together, they were one of the best lines in the league and just bc semin and malkin are russian doesnt mean they will be better than the line with neal. It makes hockey sense in my head but wouldn't neccesarily work on paper. If anything I could almost see Semin and sid together bc sid is the playmaker, 2 way forward, semin the sniper, but if duper were on that line they would have little size and toughness/physicality...fortunately none of this matters because the pens dont go after those types of players, I would be extrememly surprised if we got semin...anyway, I thought Ovechkin Laich'd Semin???
Doan on the other hand, if he actually does leave PHX, would be great addition, similiar just like someone else here said to Guerin, Roberts...hed be a great fit on the sid duper line... |
|
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
|
|
|
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Joined: 06.29.2012
|
|
|
Yeah, he's certainly a capable veteran that can do everything that you need for leadership and hasn't dropped off tremendously in skill. They won't hesitate to give him and his agent a call I'm sure. Won't break the bank for the future - HopintheCordoba
There isn't really much of a future for him so 2 or 3 years maybe 4-5 million cap hit he could do great things and then probably hang it up. |
|
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
|
|
|
I am sorry but I think we gotta keep the malkin line together, they were one of the best lines in the league and just bc semin and malkin are russian doesnt mean they will be better than the line with neal. It makes hockey sense in my head but wouldn't neccesarily work on paper. If anything I could almost see Semin and sid together bc sid is the playmaker, 2 way forward, semin the sniper, but if duper were on that line they would have little size and toughness/physicality...fortunately none of this matters because the pens dont go after those types of players, I would be extrememly surprised if we got semin...anyway, I thought Ovechkin Laich'd Semin???
Doan on the other hand, if he actually does leave PHX, would be great addition, similiar just like someone else here said to Guerin, Roberts...hed be a great fit on the sid duper line... - JLT168
I agree. Wait....didn't I say that? |
|
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
|
|
|
There isn't really much of a future for him so 2 or 3 years maybe 4-5 million cap hit he could do great things and then probably hang it up. - Genev21
Sounds good to me. If nothing else short of signing him, I hope Shero can push up the price for him for other teams. |
|
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Joined: 06.29.2012
|
|
|
Sounds good to me. If nothing else short of signing him, I hope Shero can push up the price for him for other teams. - HopintheCordoba
Exactly he should be in no matter what because he'd be a great add and you can't let him go for cheap. |
|
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Location: PGH, PA Joined: 07.09.2012
|
|
|
I agree. Wait....didn't I say that? - HopintheCordoba
hahah I think that was my long explanation agreeing with you???
hahaha, but yea, doan would be better then semin, all agree??? I would say Doan is 90% staying in PHX anyway and Semin, will probably go wherever the money is... |
|
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA Joined: 06.13.2007
|
|
|
Semin would fit right in with the softness of the team - keatondixon
Is Briere still crying over that legal hit by Vitale? I never heard of a player that pathetically whine that much over a clean hit in my life. |
|
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA Joined: 06.13.2007
|
|
|
Is Briere still crying over that legal hit by Vitale? I never heard of a player pathetically whine that much over a clean hit in my life. - acdc1206
Then again when someone is obviously as obsessed with the Penguins and Crosby like you are I guess you will find anything to come on our boards to make a comment about. |
|
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Location: PGH, PA Joined: 07.09.2012
|
|
|
Then again when someone is obviously as obsessed with the Penguins and Crosby like you are I guess you will find anything to come on our boards to make a comment about. - acdc1206
ANDDDD England would beat the living $hit out of any and all flyers, you know where to find him...he will be waiting... |
|
|
|
Given how they're already loaded up front on Fire power:wouldn't Semin going to Vancouver make a little sense? I think a guy that plays his style would thrive on a team that's offensively minded. PITT and Bylsma's system seems to gritty for Semin. Didn't seem to work out to well the last 2 seasons with Hunter's and KC Masterpiece's systems. |
|
|
|
I'm not a fan of semin at all and don't want to see him in a pens uniform. But with him making less money and the strong leadership the pens have then maybe semin will be motivated to do well. The only problem would be how long to sign him for |
|
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers |
|
|
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN Joined: 01.05.2009
|
|
|
Alex Semin is NOT a one-dimensional player; in fact, he's quietly one of the most talented two-way players in the NHL. Someone is going to get a steal with this guy. He ranked 13th in the NHL in GA20 (goals against per 20 minutes of 5 on 5 play) and 5th in GF20 (same, just goals for). Nobody else has that good a combination.
Semin has his issues, but to call him a one-dimensional player is just patently false and lazy, because the numbers are right there which prove that he's, in fact, a top-notch two-way forward. Again, some team is going to get lucky with this guy. - isles10289
I think using that as your only stat is "lazy". Semin was a very sheltered player, starting most of his shifts in the offensive zone against relatively bad competition. |
|
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
|
|
|
Yet Washington doesnt want anything to do with him anymore and he is still unsigned even though the free agent pool is extremely thin. - Gunner Staal
This is the most damning statement about Semin.... His own team has basically said "don't let the door hit you in the ass".
Quite a dichotomy when looking at the two best forwards available this year. One guy gets showered with offers and $$$ and the other has so stained his reputation that teams are treating him like a smelly diaper.
|
|
|
|
Im not arguing about how Semin is lazy, has poor work ethic, and is a coach killer...but I think it's the influence Ovechkin had on him. Maybe on the right team he might change a little. Though I think he will always be a soft player. |
|
|
|
i would be willing to give Semin a look.
he has a lot of talent. and in all seriousness, when Hunter pushed him and made him become responsible, he was arguably the caps best player in the playoffs.
with the proper leadership around him and the proper discipline from the coach, Semin can be that player that teams want him to be.
the problem is im not sure if the penguins have that leadership or if Bylsma has that discipline.
I think a lot of people will end up disappointed after seeing Doan play if he becomes a penguin. guy skates like he has bricks in his skates. |
|