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Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:45 PM ET
sure, then why the worry?
- burn


Lol.. Not worried...I must of mis spoke.. It was just more of my empty headed pondering
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jul 9 @ 10:47 PM ET
He's grown up, live in the now.
- Leafland


Can you tell him I said "hey".... just next time you see him is fine... dont go out of your way.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 9 @ 10:48 PM ET
Lupul is a real solid hockey player (aside from his ongoing injury battles) and seems like a real sweet dude... but in no way... would I want him being a captain of any team!
- kneughter



Assistant Captain?


Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:48 PM ET
Can you tell him I said "hey".... just next time you see him is fine... dont go out of your way.
- kneughter

Goooooood joooooooob
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:49 PM ET
I'm personally talking about the 7mill + guys when I'm talking upper echelon.. Kessel has to prove himself more in the next couple years before I say he's deserving of that kind of dough
- Dozzer


I guess I'm old fashioned. I still think $6m is a lot of money.

I wonder what the salary averages for the uper echelon guys were when Kessel signed his deal.

Do you think that Kessel will be an easy signing at the end of his deal?
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:49 PM ET
I just look at our top 6 wingers (first three lines) right now: Kessel,Lupul,JVR,Kulemin,Frattin,Mac. Burke isn't even done acquiring people. It's also possible guys like Connoly or Lombardi are in the lineup as wingers. Does Kadri stand a chance in hell at making the team? Which of those top wingers are going to sit if he destroys in training camp? As I said, depth is nice. But I honestly think this is getting stupid.
- dionschenn


Kadri will get ice time just like Gardiner got it. I think it's great. We've never had depth before like this, it also makes guys work much harder to keep their spot. If Lombardi is playing better than Kadri or Frattin than those kids need to work harder. Lombardi knows those kids want his minutes badly so he's going to have to start earning that 3.5mil contract.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 9 @ 10:49 PM ET
Of course... I'll send it Overnight delivery... is it easier to just send it to Brian Burkes house and have you pick it up there?
- kneughter



Yeah, I'm there all the time.... I'll grab it next time I'm there. Should be there by Wed?
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jul 9 @ 10:51 PM ET
Assistant Captain?



- burn


Of course I would let him assist a captain....

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:52 PM ET
I guess I'm old fashioned. I still think $6m is a lot of money.

I wonder what the salary averages for the uper echelon guys were when Kessel signed his deal.

Do you think that Kessel will be an easy signing at the end of his deal?

- bloatedmosquito


I think it will seriously depend on what happens this year and next.. Notable progress forward yes.. Slide back or stay put.. No
dionschenn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.01.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:52 PM ET
Kadri will get ice time just like Gardiner got it. I think it's great. We've never had depth before like this, it also makes guys work much harder to keep their spot. If Lombardi is playing better than Kadri or Frattin than those kids need to work harder. Lombardi knows those kids want his minutes badly so he's going to have to start earning that 3.5mil contract.
- Boosinicka


That didn't answer my question of which winger will sit. Lombardi wasn't one of them. The problem is that in a cap system, you cannot spend your money on depth. Your money needs to go to your core of great players, then the rest of the positions are guys battling for spots. The Leafs on the other hand had guys like Komi, Armstrong, Lombardi in the press box last year. Right now, when people make Leaf lines, Komi,Lombardi, and Connolly are sitting. Thats 12.75 mil in the press box. Smart way to spend? No. I think the depth is getting stupid.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 9 @ 10:53 PM ET
Of course I would let him assist a captain....


- kneughter





Buffalo hates him, makes me like him so much more!!
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:53 PM ET
He's paid like a star, yes, like the star of our team, but to me a superstar is a player who'd be a star on any team. I don't see Kessel that way and reserve that for players like Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Ovy, etc.
- gravyface


Tell him that.

Boston agrees with you fully.

Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:53 PM ET
In fairness he's still getting better.. Would like to see a little more 'never give up' in his game personally.

He's a sniper (with underrated passing in fairness).. And to pay 7mill for a sniper he better be potting 40 per.

He's getting to the age where he is going to define himself.. Will he be another 30goal sniper or will he step up to the next level? Could go either way I think

- Dozzer


I think if he had a center who could pot his passes he would be a 90-100 point guy. But we've all had that assessment. But few players have done what Kessel has done in the past 4 years, and if you look at those other players contracts (Iginla, Nash) they are all 7mil+
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:56 PM ET
Kadri will get ice time just like Gardiner got it. I think it's great. We've never had depth before like this, it also makes guys work much harder to keep their spot. If Lombardi is playing better than Kadri or Frattin than those kids need to work harder. Lombardi knows those kids want his minutes badly so he's going to have to start earning that 3.5mil contract.
- Boosinicka


I'm still of the thinking that it's now or never for Kadri to make this team. Nobody's questioning his skill. It's just that, with this team, you really should have figured out how to at least stick around while RW was here.

What makes us think his task is any easier under RC?
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:56 PM ET
I think if he had a center who could pot his passes he would be a 90-100 point guy. But we've all had that assessment. But few players have done what Kessel has done in the past 4 years, and if you look at those other players contracts (Iginla, Nash) they are all 7mil+
- Boosinicka

Kessel needs to learn how to score on a breakaway everynow and then. He might break 40 if he does.
Timeforsoup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Please don't mock me merciless, ON
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:58 PM ET
Kessel needs to learn how to score on a breakaway everynow and then. He might break 40 if he does.
- Leafland


He needs Kadri to teach him how to deke.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:58 PM ET
I think if he had a center who could pot his passes he would be a 90-100 point guy. But we've all had that assessment. But few players have done what Kessel has done in the past 4 years, and if you look at those other players contracts (Iginla, Nash) they are all 7mil+
- Boosinicka


Yeah but but but... I'm demanding lol
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:59 PM ET
Kadri will get ice time just like Gardiner got it. I think it's great. We've never had depth before like this, it also makes guys work much harder to keep their spot. If Lombardi is playing better than Kadri or Frattin than those kids need to work harder. Lombardi knows those kids want his minutes badly so he's going to have to start earning that 3.5mil contract.
- Boosinicka



Dude.... Lombo won't be playing with the Leafs
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 9 @ 11:01 PM ET
He needs Kadri to teach him how to deke.
- Timeforsoup

Oh yeah, Kadri the shootout specialist. In 30 years from now, people will be looking back on Kadri being picked, a pioneer to the game, drafted and put in the lineup merely incase the game went to a shootout. Burke the genius.
Timeforsoup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Please don't mock me merciless, ON
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 9 @ 11:02 PM ET
Oh yeah, Kadri the shootout specialist. In 30 years from now, people will be looking back on Kadri being picked, a pioneer to the game, drafted merely incase the game went to a shootout. Burke the genius.
- Leafland


MEEEOOOOWWWWWWWWW
dionschenn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.01.2010

Jul 9 @ 11:03 PM ET
Oh yeah, Kadri the shootout specialist. In 30 years from now, people will be looking back on Kadri being picked, a pioneer to the game, drafted and put in the lineup merely incase the game went to a shootout. Burke the genius.
- Leafland


Kadri is 21 years old. Relax.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 9 @ 11:04 PM ET
MEEEOOOOWWWWWWWWW
- Timeforsoup


thank you.. I wasn't sure how to address that
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 9 @ 11:05 PM ET
Tell him that.

Boston agrees with you fully.

- bloatedmosquito


This doesn't even make sense.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jul 9 @ 11:05 PM ET
He needs Kadri to teach him how to deke.
- Timeforsoup


But if Kessel deke's he won't have a defender's legs to mask his shot behind.

That's half the trick for Phil
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jul 9 @ 11:05 PM ET
He needs Kadri to teach him how to deke.
- Timeforsoup


But if Kessel deke's he won't have a defender's legs to mask his shot behind.

That's half the trick for Phil
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