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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 9 @ 9:13 PM ET
1. Colborne will be in the AHL this season, I think that's a given ATM
2. Kadri, Frattin and Komarov wouldn't be in our top 6, so mute point
3. Lombardi should be sent to the AHL, while I believe we will deal Connolly to a team below cap floor
4. JVR may not stick, but put Bozak there and move Kulemin down to 3rd line

- cor99


1: Burke has stated that they may address the center position from within the organization; I'm assuming he meant Colborne and/or the JVR experiment. He did comment in that interview that he expects some guys to stick from the Marlies and he did mention Colborne's outstanding start before the injury. Not sure what's happening there but I wouldn't say it's a "given" he's going to be with for the Marlies all year.

2,3,4: Right, but if we add another top 6 winger, not to mention McClement taking up a bottom 6 roster spot means we have ALOT of top 9 forwards and I'm not so sure how movable Connolly and Lombardi are; towards the trade deadline if they have decent seasons, ok, somebody will take a flyer on them for playoff depth for mid round picks, but not sure anyone's willing to give up assets now for them, no matter how cheap the assets are (late round picks, late round prospects).


cor99
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2007

Jul 9 @ 9:14 PM ET
I agree completely, last year when we signed Connolly most of us were hoping it would all work out and he's have a comeback year. I feel the same way about JVR. He's a solid player but we are hoping he will have a career year and I just don't see that happening. We take average deals that Burke makes and hope they are the answer.
- nomdreas


Not the same... Everyone knew Connolly wasn't going to work out...

JVR is what? 24? People are hoping he works at center, if not, he's a perfect 2nd line LW, that could develop into a solid first liner
JohnTucker7
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:15 PM ET
I agree completely, last year when we signed Connolly most of us were hoping it would all work out and he's have a comeback year. I feel the same way about JVR. He's a solid player but we are hoping he will have a career year and I just don't see that happening. We take average deals that Burke makes and hope they are the answer.
- nomdreas


So true. Everytime he tries this he sets us back another year. We have some decent pieces in place, but we need a #1 Center and a Goalie. Get it done. No excuses. We are the Toronto Maple Leafs. I would give anyone on this team other than Kessel for Getz., even landing Stasney would work. Hell I would have taken Derek Roy. But trying to put JVR as a center is a joke.
Evando
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:15 PM ET
JVR will be a beauty. The fact that Burke traded Schenn whom he thought was the messiah is enough for me to beleaf!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 9 @ 9:15 PM ET
Who is this clown?
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 9 @ 9:15 PM ET
1: Burke has stated that they may address the center position from within the organization; I'm assuming he meant Colborne and/or the JVR experiment. He did comment in that interview that he expects some guys to stick from the Marlies and he did mention Colborne's outstanding start before the injury. Not sure what's happening there but I wouldn't say it's a "given" he's going to be with for the Marlies all year.

2,3,4: Right, but if we add another top 6 winger, not to mention McClement taking up a bottom 6 roster spot means we have ALOT of top 9 forwards and I'm not so sure how movable Connolly and Lombardi are; towards the trade deadline if they have decent seasons, ok, somebody will take a flyer on them for playoff depth for mid round picks, but not sure anyone's willing to give up assets now for them, no matter how cheap the assets are (late round picks, late round prospects).

- gravyface


Connelly can be moved now..... Lombo has a parking spot at the Ricoh center waiting
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 9 @ 9:16 PM ET
Have you ever actually watched him play? He is not a scorer. He gets into the dirty areas and is strong on the puck in the corners.
- JohnTucker7


Have you ever watched a hockey game? Going into the corners and being strong on the puck is not tough and gritty. Chris Neil is tough and gritty; Cal Clutterbuck is tough and gritty; Jordan Tootoo is tough and gritty; Shayne Corson was tough and gritty; Darcy Tucker was tough and gritty.

JVR is not tough and gritty. He's a top 6 scoring forward with size.
cor99
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2007

Jul 9 @ 9:16 PM ET
1: Burke has stated that they may address the center position from within the organization; I'm assuming he meant Colborne and/or the JVR experiment. He did comment in that interview that he expects some guys to stick from the Marlies and he did mention Colborne's outstanding start before the injury. Not sure what's happening there but I wouldn't say it's a "given" he's going to be with for the Marlies all year.

2,3,4: Right, but if we add another top 6 winger, not to mention McClement taking up a bottom 6 roster spot means we have ALOT of top 9 forwards and I'm not so sure how movable Connolly and Lombardi are; towards the trade deadline if they have decent seasons, ok, somebody will take a flyer on them for playoff depth for mid round picks, but not sure anyone's willing to give up assets now for them, no matter how cheap the assets are (late round picks, late round prospects).

- gravyface


Simple... conditional 7th for Connolly or future considerations.

Once the FA logjam is gone and players are gone.... i think a team that is below the floor still will take a chance on him
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 9 @ 9:18 PM ET
Connelly can be moved now..... Lombo has a parking spot at the Ricoh center waiting
- faceto27


Hey man, I'll believe it when I see it (and rejoice). Something tells me that those two guys are going to be playing on our roster out of camp. We'll see how injuries go, and when Frattin gets back, but I just don't see anybody picking either of those guys up but I'll happily eat my words if it does happen before the trade deadline.
JohnTucker7
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:18 PM ET
Have you ever watched a hockey game? Going into the corners and being strong on the puck is not tough and gritty. Chris Neil is tough and gritty; Cal Clutterbuck is tough and gritty; Jordan Tootoo is tough and gritty; Shayne Corson was tough and gritty; Darcy Tucker was tough and gritty.

JVR is not tough and gritty. He's a top 6 scoring forward with size.

- gravyface


Scoring Forward. I dont think so.
JohnTucker7
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:19 PM ET
Hey man, I'll believe it when I see it (and rejoice). Something tells me that those two guys are going to be playing on our roster out of camp. We'll see how injuries go, and when Frattin gets back, but I just don't see anybody picking either of those guys up but I'll happily eat my words if it does happen before the trade deadline.
- gravyface


I am sure thats what the flyers sold him as. You watch, after putting on the leafs jersey he will score 10-15 goals a year.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jul 9 @ 9:19 PM ET
Who is this clown?
- burn

Whom?
JohnTucker7
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:20 PM ET
Scoring Forward. I dont think so.
- JohnTucker7


I would bet anyone on here that Shenn has more points next year then JVR.
cor99
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2007

Jul 9 @ 9:21 PM ET
Scoring Forward. I dont think so.
- JohnTucker7


You clearly haven't watched him play. He's a scoring forward that uses his size to protect the puck in the corner and goes to the net.

He's not tough and gritty... he doesn't lay big hits, he doesn't fight, he doesn't draw penalties....

The fact that you can't see the difference shows how little you know about the guy, or hockey in general
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 9 @ 9:23 PM ET
Have you ever watched a hockey game? Going into the corners and being strong on the puck is not tough and gritty. Chris Neil is tough and gritty; Cal Clutterbuck is tough and gritty; Jordan Tootoo is tough and gritty; Shayne Corson was tough and gritty; Darcy Tucker was tough and gritty.

JVR is not tough and gritty. He's a top 6 scoring forward with size.

- gravyface



Dude... Why bother?
cor99
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2007

Jul 9 @ 9:23 PM ET
I would bet anyone on here that Shenn has more points next year then JVR.
- JohnTucker7


Luke Schenn's career high is 22 points... twice in 79 and 82 games.

JVR career low is 24 points.... in 43 games....

robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 9 @ 9:23 PM ET
I would bet anyone on here that Shenn has more points next year then JVR.
- JohnTucker7



Hardy har harrrr.



gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 9 @ 9:23 PM ET
I am sure thats what the flyers sold him as. You watch, after putting on the leafs jersey he will score 10-15 goals a year.
- JohnTucker7


What the (frank) are you even talking about? I was referring to Connolly and Lombardi, hence the quote. Go lay down. Jesus.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 9 @ 9:24 PM ET
Dude... Why bother?
- faceto27


True dat. Terrible troll. Wow. Like location worthy I'm thinking.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 9 @ 9:24 PM ET
I would bet anyone on here that Shenn has more points next year then JVR.
- JohnTucker7



I would bet that my golden doodle has a higher hockey IQ than you
cor99
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2007

Jul 9 @ 9:25 PM ET
The Canucks gave Mason Raymond 2.2M, 1 Year Deal... for anyone that missed it
JohnTucker7
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:26 PM ET
Luke Schenn's career high is 22 points... twice in 79 and 82 games.

JVR career low is 24 points.... in 43 games....

- cor99


I am well aware of his prior stats. JVR will be playing against the opposing teams top players now. Schenn will be logging PP minutes with the 3rd best powerplay in the NHL. I think they are both gonna be around 30-35 points, with Schenn having a slight edge because he is more durable.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 9 @ 9:26 PM ET
Hey man, I'll believe it when I see it (and rejoice). Something tells me that those two guys are going to be playing on our roster out of camp. We'll see how injuries go, and when Frattin gets back, but I just don't see anybody picking either of those guys up but I'll happily eat my words if it does happen before the trade deadline.
- gravyface



Connelly ain't that bad... He'd make a decent third liner for a whole bunch of teams
JohnTucker7
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:27 PM ET
I would bet that my golden doodle has a higher hockey IQ than you
- faceto27


If that makes you feel better bro. I think I make a pretty compelling argument to support my thesis.
cor99
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2007

Jul 9 @ 9:27 PM ET
I am well aware of his prior stats. JVR will be playing against the opposing teams top players now. Schenn will be logging PP minutes with the 3rd best powerplay in the NHL. I think they are both gonna be around 30-35 points, with Schenn having a slight edge because he is more durable.
- JohnTucker7


1. JVR played against top guys in philly.....
2. Schenn WILL NOT be on their power play. He wasn't on our powerplay why the (frank) would he be on theirs...
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