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jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 7:12 PM ET
New blog please! This one has run it's course. Oh Mikey........what stale rumour is there out there tonight? How about we resurrect the Russ Cortnall for John Kordic rumour........we won that trade.......right?
- JohnnyReb

Go away. Don't ever come onto this site again .
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:14 PM ET
Still, he didn't, and that's kind of pathetic to see a team suck so long and not have a Calder in there.
- gravyface


Both Hall and Hopkins were in the lead to win the Calder until they got hurt. That's not pathetic, it's just unlucky.
JohnnyReb
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Watertown, NY
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:16 PM ET
Go away. Don't ever come onto this site again .
- jbold

How about we examine the deal for Tim Kurvers........he'll get us into the playoffs.......right?
JohnnyReb
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Watertown, NY
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:19 PM ET
Still, he didn't, and that's kind of pathetic to see a team suck so long and not have a Calder in there.
- gravyface

You know what sucks really bad? The last Leaf to win a major NHL award. Might have been Brit Selby, in 1967, who won the Calder. No Hart, No Norris, No Vezina's, No Ross. No appearance in the final since 1967. Now that sucks bad!
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:22 PM ET
The Calder winner will be...dun dun dah

I got nothing err, maybe Yakupov

- AdamFrench


Dougie Hamilton, Jonathan Huberdeau, Vladimir Tarasenko and Mikael Granlund all have a good shot too.

Oh, and of course, Nazem Kadri.

And Cody Hodgson.
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:23 PM ET
You know what sucks really bad? The last Leaf to win a major NHL award. Might have been Brit Selby, in 1967, who won the Calder. No Hart, No Norris, No Vezina's, No Ross. No appearance in the final since 1967. Now that sucks bad!
- JohnnyReb


Dave Keon won the Conn Smythe in 1967.

Doug Gilmour won the Selke in 1993.

Mats Sundin won the Messier in 2008.

Jason Blake won the Masterton in 2008.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 9 @ 7:29 PM ET
It's pathetic is it?



- robin_steele264


If only the Oilers could have what we ...

As you were.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 9 @ 7:30 PM ET
Dave Keon won the Conn Smythe in 1967.

Doug Gilmour won the Selke in 1993.

Mats Sundin won the Messier in 2008.

Jason Blake won the Masterton in 2008.

- Two_For_Truth


And Sundin and Gilmour both made the HOF heavily based on their Leaf careers
JohnnyReb
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Watertown, NY
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:32 PM ET
Dave Keon won the Conn Smythe in 1967.

Doug Gilmour won the Selke in 1993.

Mats Sundin won the Messier in 2008.

Jason Blake won the Masterton in 2008.

- Two_For_Truth

The '67 Smythe is the only trophy that I would call major.
JohnnyReb
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Watertown, NY
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:33 PM ET
And Sundin and Gilmour both made the HOF heavily based on their Leaf careers
- Zezel

And Paul Henderson didn't and should have!
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 9 @ 7:36 PM ET
And Sundin and Gilmour both made the HOF heavily based on their Leaf careers
- Zezel


That's a bit of stretch. Gilmour played half of his career and won a Cup before he even came to Toronto. Sundin also had the Swedish factor on his side which seems odd but being the first ever European trained 1st overall pick and all of his accomplishments with the Swedish team, I'd say it was probably a 50/50 split for Sundin.
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 9 @ 7:37 PM ET
The '67 Smythe is the only trophy that I would call major.
- JohnnyReb


Gilmour winning the Selke is pretty significant because at that point in time he was widely considered the best player in the game. Although the awards didn't reflect it, a Selke with 127 points is a significant accomplishment.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jul 9 @ 7:37 PM ET
The '67 Smythe is the only trophy that I would call major.
- JohnnyReb

... but the best defensive forward in the entire league is chopped liver?
Juice
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Jul 9 @ 7:37 PM ET
Dave Keon won the Conn Smythe in 1967.

Doug Gilmour won the Selke in 1993.

Mats Sundin won the Messier in 2008.

Jason Blake won the Masterton in 2008.

- Two_For_Truth

Please don't ever mention that award....it should be called "congrats you had an issue to face and you came back to play a game that pays you millions!"
Juice
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Jul 9 @ 7:39 PM ET
The '67 Smythe is the only trophy that I would call major.
- JohnnyReb

I'm gonna side with finishing with 127 points and getting called the best defensive forward a pretty major accomplishment.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
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Jul 9 @ 7:40 PM ET
That's a bit of stretch. Gilmour played half of his career and won a Cup before he even came to Toronto. Sundin also had the Swedish factor on his side which seems odd but being the first ever European trained 1st overall pick and all of his accomplishments with the Swedish team, I'd say it was probably a 50/50 split for Sundin.
- Two_For_Truth


I think Gilmour's years in Toronto were a huge part of his HOF resume, it showed he had at least a couple of years were he was arguably one of the most dominant players in the game, which I think he was at his peak.

With Sundin it's his PPG career and international play, and most of his dominant play was with Toronto
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
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Jul 9 @ 7:40 PM ET
Please don't ever mention that award....it should be called "congrats you had an issue to face and you came back to play a game that pays you millions!"
- Juice

Yeah, it's pretty watered down IMO.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 9 @ 7:40 PM ET
Dougie Hamilton, Jonathan Huberdeau, Vladimir Tarasenko and Mikael Granlund all have a good shot too.

Oh, and of course, Nazem Kadri.

And Cody Hodgson.

- Two_For_Truth

Cody has played one season already?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 9 @ 7:40 PM ET
And Sundin and Gilmour both made the HOF heavily based on their Leaf careers
- Zezel



Slow down skippy. You're a little carried away here.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 9 @ 7:40 PM ET
Please don't ever mention that award....it should be called "congrats you had an issue to face and you came back to play a game that pays you millions!"
- Juice

Well, sure, if the guy had to combat headaches while watching movies. But guys who've battled cancer, or other lifethreatening issues, like blood infections, and managed to come back- they should get some recognition.
JohnnyReb
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:42 PM ET
Please don't ever mention that award....it should be called "congrats you had an issue to face and you came back to play a game that pays you millions!"
- Juice

Yes, the Masterson is a "good job, you came back and reclaimed your career" trophy. The Selke is a middling award and sometimes overlooks the reality of a good checking forward. Would Gilmour have won this trophy, if he had 35 points as a good checking centre?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
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Jul 9 @ 7:42 PM ET
I think Gilmour's years in Toronto were a huge part of his HOF resume, it showed he had at least a couple of years were he was arguably one of the most dominant players in the game, which I think he was at his peak.

With Sundin it's his PPG career and international play, and most of his dominant play was with Toronto

- Zezel



Gilmour is 17th alltime in points. That alone is HOF worthy. Toronto didn't make a difference. If he had put up those # he'd be a HOF'er anywhere.end of story.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 9 @ 7:43 PM ET
Well, sure, if the guy had to combat headaches while watching movies. But guys who've battled cancer, or other lifethreatening issues, like blood infections, and managed to come back- they should get some recognition.
- Feeling Glucky?

Settle down. Broken necks may cause paralysis... even death.
JohnnyReb
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Watertown, NY
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:44 PM ET
I think Gilmour's years in Toronto were a huge part of his HOF resume, it showed he had at least a couple of years were he was arguably one of the most dominant players in the game, which I think he was at his peak.

With Sundin it's his PPG career and international play, and most of his dominant play was with Toronto

- Zezel

If that were the case, then Gilmour should have won the Hart Trophy, as most valuable player.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jul 9 @ 7:45 PM ET
Yes, the Masterson is a "good job, you came back and reclaimed your career" trophy. The Selke is a middling award and sometimes overlooks the reality of a good checking forward. Would Gilmour have won this trophy, if he had 35 points as a good checking centre?
- JohnnyReb

Of course!... He's a Leaf!
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