Well if we can get luongo cheap who is already a proven goaltender.... then scrivens can be used as trade-bait. Reimer has shown signs of promosing brilliance in the nhl, scrivens has not. We no nothing of scrivens and how he can handle the nhl. Alot of goalies dominate the ahl or younger leagues but cant handle the nhl. Its a different ball game and i get yeah he deserves a shot scenario but your best bet if we did acquire luongo is to give some games to both reimer and scrivens and if they accumulate trade value then trade one of them away...
- Mapleleafs_91

In all fairness scrivens hasn't had his shot yet, he needs to know he can win the job and not just fill in until someone gets better.... And if you get Luongo and trade scrivens his value is zero right now

- Unholy_Forward

hmmm run with a proven goaltender or go with 2 unprovens again....... how much more can we take of this garbage

Yep, Bill Ranford
- Bieksa#3

goalie coach does not count as a mentor I don't think

And the bonus is, Kipper is already used to Dion screening him on point shots
- MutinyofSense

I think it is a better fit than Luongo if he goes on the block, for a much shorter contract and IMO slightly better goaltending.
If things go bad early, I would expect Kipper to move before Iginla, since Irving is close. I'd like to see him on a Toronto or a Winnipeg team more than some others.

I believe washington would be the best team to trade guys like an iggy or kipper too. I wanna see ovie win a cup eventually
- Mapleleafs_91

I'm not sure what the Caps have that would entice Feaster into making a deal there (not that I'm accusing them of not having anything, I just don't know their team that well).

In all fairness scrivens hasn't had his shot yet, he needs to know he can win the job and not just fill in until someone gets better.... And if you get Luongo and trade scrivens his value is zero right now
- MindFr3eak

When you look at the goalie prospect ratings and such Scrivens doesn't rank very high. Most hockey people(not saying all) don't see him as a strong NHL goalie.
Another scenerio to consider is the kids playig d for the leafs. Its tough to have guys like Gardiner who are going to have the share of mistakes as every young d does. A goalie who lets them mistakes in quite often is going to kill the young d confidense

In all fairness scrivens hasn't had his shot yet, he needs to know he can win the job and not just fill in until someone gets better.... And if you get Luongo and trade scrivens his value is zero right now
- MindFr3eak

But you do know burkes intentions are to acquire luongo cheaply if not he will run with scrivens and reimer if he has to though if the chance arises to acquire luongo for the right price, burke will pull the trigger..

Goalie market is horrible this year, no good Free Agents and price of a trade is too high, rather see us try for a #1 Centre and try and build two lines that can score (that doesn't mean break the bank for Bobby Ryan or Nash or whomever, it means a Marleau type of player and contract)

But you do know burkes intentions are to acquire luongo cheaply if not he will run with scrivens and reimer if he has to though if the chance arises to acquire luongo for the right price, burke will pull the trigger..
- Mapleleafs_91

I know he will

Goalie market is horrible this year, no good Free Agents and price of a trade is too high, rather see us try for a #1 Centre and try and build two lines that can score (that doesn't mean break the bank for Bobby Ryan or Nash or whomever, it means a Marleau type of player and contract)
- encrypt

Just to tell you... next year goalie market is not good either.... and id take a grabs at bobby ryan, not nash. If marleau is cheap then sure

I know he will
- MindFr3eak

so that means one of scrivens or reimer will remain in the ahl or be used as trade bait

When you look at the goalie prospect ratings and such Scrivens doesn't rank very high. Most hockey people(not saying all) don't see him as a strong NHL goalie.
Another scenerio to consider is the kids playig d for the leafs. Its tough to have guys like Gardiner who are going to have the share of mistakes as every young d does. A goalie who lets them mistakes in quite often is going to kill the young d confidense
- Bieksa#3

Your not wrong here but we never give our prospects a shot its bad timing to try obv

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so that means one of scrivens or reimer will remain in the ahl or be used as trade bait
- Mapleleafs_91

Reimer has a 1 way and scrivens is ready for nhl in some capacity... So means if luongo comes we lose scrivens and try to develop someone down under

I think it is a better fit than Luongo if he goes on the block, for a much shorter contract and IMO slightly better goaltending.
If things go bad early, I would expect Kipper to move before Iginla, since Irving is close. I'd like to see him on a Toronto or a Winnipeg team more than some others.
- FLflames34

I think a good deal could be had between Toronto and Calgary (for once). Toronto could put together an enticing package of picks and/or prospects and a role player. Something like Kulemin's rights, a second round pick, a conditional pick, and maybe Holzer/Blackier. Depends on what positional needs Feaster would be targetting.

goalie coach does not count as a mentor I don't think
- Rayven

Hai!! It's been awhile.

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Reimer has a 1 way and scrivens is ready for nhl in some capacity... So means if luongo comes we lose scrivens and try to develop someone down under
- MindFr3eak

They play hockey in Australia ?

Hai!! It's been awhile.
- Tee-Dot

Hai

indeed it has, how you been ?

They play hockey in Australia ?
- Rayven

Answers a lot of the questions about why Toronto is so horrible at developing prospects

I think a good deal could be had between Toronto and Calgary (for once). Toronto could put together an enticing package of picks and/or prospects and a role player. Something like Kulemin's rights, a second round pick, a conditional pick, and maybe Holzer/Blackier. Depends on what positional needs Feaster would be targetting.
- MutinyofSense

I would blow my load all over the ACC if Kipper became a Leaf.

Semin to Detroit. Done deal-Detroit has put word out the there is a presser at noon Monday Morning. They are finalizing the deal.

I would blow my load all over the ACC if Kipper became a Leaf.
- Tee-Dot

You and me both. How long has it been since a Maple Leaf netminder has stolen a win for the home crowd?

Answers a lot of the questions about why Toronto is so horrible at developing prospects
- MutinyofSense

indeed it would

You and me both. How long has it been since a Maple Leaf netminder has stolen a win for the home crowd?
- MutinyofSense

Rayzer ?

You and me both. How long has it been since a Maple Leaf netminder has stolen a win for the home crowd?
- MutinyofSense

Reading the papers it seems there is more then enough stealing in that city

Hai

indeed it has, how you been ?
- Rayven

Great! We finally made the big move two months ago.