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Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 2:41 PM ET
I went 3 out of 5 days last year to the scrimmages and Shaw really stood out over everyone else in those 3 games and look what he did this year. Chances are we won't see anyone make that jump so he could be the exception but I still enjoy going to watch some free hockey in July and take a peek at our prospect pool.
- hawks1921


I noticed him too...Which is mostly what I look for...If a kid stands out.

I was there the day Carcillo tuned him up a bit.

Which to be honest, Shaw was looking to fight more than Carcillo.

@AlCimaglia
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 8 @ 2:43 PM ET
I noticed him too...Which is mostly what I look for...If a kid stands out.

I was there the day Carcillo tuned him up a bit.

Which to be honest, Shaw was looking to fight more than Carcillo.

@AlCimaglia

- Al


Thats how guys stand out a little , It will be nice to have a full season of Shaw and Carcillo
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 2:47 PM ET
No, I'm not going to make a determination on a player just from seeing him once, but can still get questions answered. Like what style Niemi played. I left knowing he's a super quick blocking type. I left knowing the scouts were bang on, Lalonde is a silky smooth skater. That Makarov looked to have the ingredients to be a 3rd line type. That Crawford matched Niemi save for save with a whole different style. That the speedy little dude who had his wrist broken by that idiot Beach in the fight was a gritty little dude.

No more reading, my eyes got a look.

Indeed age is a huge factor. That's why if Canlan looks like he even comes close to belonging with the men, cuz he's a kid, we can like what the future holds. If he doesn't, it's to be expected. Same goes with the Fin they picked 1st round. Would love to see Whitney, the #2 ranked North American goalie, who fell to the 7th round and something like the 17th goalie taken.

Camp is awesome and I recommend it to anyone. But, and I think this may be what your getting at, no solid conclusions can be drawn from it, but still much can as I mentioned above.

It's just The Ice House sucks, big time. Doubt I'll ever go again.

- Mr Ricochet


no solid conclusions can be drawn from it

But you can get a sense of who is a cut above....Still recall Niemi stopping everying 15 inches off the ice and lower...his legs were ultra quick.

Bu sometimes with the bigger guys like Aliu and Beach they can look better than they actually are as well.

From my experience from what I have seen over the years...It's worthwhile but take the cautious approach on basing a lot on it especially if you only go once.

I wait until I see the boys with the men at traning camp to get a stronger opinion.
eric.killham
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 8 @ 2:49 PM ET
Son of a...just wrote the same thing essentially... I wrote in that blog, maybe it is Pacioretty, not a Chicago forward
- ikeane


Next season Pacioretty is due for a nice pay day
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 2:50 PM ET
Thats how guys stand out a little , It will be nice to have a full season of Shaw and Carcillo
- mrpaulish


I am hard to impress and I like Shaw's chances of being a really good player as long as he doesn't get stupid and starts playing to the crowd.

His best chances for success is not on the 4th line but rather as a more complete top nine forward.
IndianHead10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.14.2012

Jul 8 @ 2:54 PM ET
What's the story on this Beach kid anyway? How's he looking down in the minors?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 8 @ 2:55 PM ET
Can someone explain to me what the love is for Bernier? Wasn't it last season that Quick looked like he never should have been in this league? Where was Bernier then if he is so high a prospect?

I would take my chances on signing someone like Montoya (who at least has Real NHL experience) than trade away NHL talent for Bernier.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 8 @ 2:57 PM ET
Can someone explain to me what the love is for Bernier? Wasn't it last season that Quick looked like he never should have been in this league? Where was Bernier then if he is so high a prospect?

I would take my chances on signing someone like Montoya (who at least has Real NHL experience) than trade away NHL talent for Bernier.

- powerenforcer


Too late, Montoya signed with the Jets
eric.killham
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
Can someone explain to me what the love is for Bernier? Wasn't it last season that Quick looked like he never should have been in this league? Where was Bernier then if he is so high a prospect?

I would take my chances on signing someone like Montoya (who at least has Real NHL experience) than trade away NHL talent for Bernier.

- powerenforcer


He's young, has shown that he can handle himself at the nhl level, has loads of potential to be an elite goalie, he wants out of LA now that Quick is locked up, and you won't have to give him a huge contract next year. Best available goaltender (who's name isn't Roberto Luongo).
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 8 @ 3:01 PM ET
Too late, Montoya signed with the Jets
- ikeane


I missed that one. Any details, or are you going to make me look them up?
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 8 @ 3:01 PM ET
No - don't care if it's Doan and / or Luongo or anyone else.

Just that the only championships the Hawks can win are the ones right ahead of us.

Don't let cap worries 5/4/3 years out stop you from doing what you can to win now.

Click is ticking, window is closing on this group.

- StLBravesFan

My opinion - clock stopped ticking awhile ago and won't start agin until they improve on the blueline and in net. Team isn't good enough as presemtly composed. Not big enough overall, 2 very average goaltenders and not many young players ready to play in the NHL.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 3:02 PM ET
He's young, has shown that he can handle himself at the nhl level, has loads of potential to be an elite goalie, he wants out of LA now that Quick is locked up, and you won't have to give him a huge contract next year. Best available goaltender (who's name isn't Roberto Luongo).
- eric.killham



Agree.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 3:02 PM ET
I missed that one. Any details, or are you going to make me look them up?
- powerenforcer



I think he signed for less $ than Leighton.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 8 @ 3:03 PM ET
He's young, has shown that he can handle himself at the nhl level, has loads of potential to be an elite goalie, he wants out of LA now that Quick is locked up, and you won't have to give him a huge contract next year. Best available goaltender (who's name isn't Roberto Luongo).
- eric.killham


Am I looking at this the right way - If he couldn't beat out Quick for the LA job, is he any better than Crawford on this team right now?
eric.killham
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 8 @ 3:03 PM ET
I think he signed for less $ than Leighton.
- moylander


Montoya signed for $601,000
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 3:04 PM ET
My opinion - clock stopped ticking awhile ago and won't start agin until they improve on the blueline and in net. Team isn't good enough as presemtly composed. Not big enough overall, 2 very average goaltenders and not many young players ready to play in the NHL.
- RickJ


Rick,

C'mon....A full season of Carcillo, Shaw and Oduya aren't enough???
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 8 @ 3:08 PM ET
Rick,

C'mon....A full season of Carcillo, Shaw and Oduya aren't enough???

- Al

Only if you endorse it as a complete fix job done by Stan.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 3:10 PM ET
im not insecure about anything, but if you can post a nude ryan kesler photo and claim he is a god (which he is the furthest thing from) i think it is more than acceptable to post a Dustin Byfuglien photo
- hawks1921

We don't want nude Byf pictures
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 8 @ 3:13 PM ET
Thats how guys stand out a little , It will be nice to have a full season of Shaw and Carcillo
- mrpaulish

Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 3:16 PM ET
Can someone explain to me what the love is for Bernier? Wasn't it last season that Quick looked like he never should have been in this league? Where was Bernier then if he is so high a prospect?

I would take my chances on signing someone like Montoya (who at least has Real NHL experience) than trade away NHL talent for Bernier.

- powerenforcer


I am not going to put Bernier down but he isn't a lock...

Bernier was LA's draft choice, many times that gives him a leg up ....see Crawford.

But instead a kid from ECHL winds up getting and keeping the #1 job.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 3:17 PM ET
Only if you endorse it as a complete fix job done by Stan.
- RickJ


Not there yet my man.
eric.killham
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 8 @ 3:19 PM ET
I am not going to put Bernier down but he isn't a lock...

Bernier was LA's draft choice, many times that gives him a leg up ....see Crawford.

But instead a kid from ECHL winds up getting and keeping the #1 job.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia

- Al


Quick had already established himself as the starter and now as an elite goalie. Bernier hasn't had that chance (which is why he wants out of LA)
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 8 @ 3:23 PM ET
AL, you and JJ doing hawks buzz today?
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 8 @ 3:28 PM ET
I missed that one. Any details, or are you going to make me look them up?
- powerenforcer


Sorry,

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/tea...d=399929&hubname=nhl-jets

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 8 @ 3:30 PM ET
I am not going to put Bernier down but he isn't a lock...

Bernier was LA's draft choice, many times that gives him a leg up ....see Crawford.

But instead a kid from ECHL winds up getting and keeping the #1 job.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia

- Al



I'll take Bernier as a back up. If Crawford faulters then Bernier will have a chance to step up and seize the #1 job

Emery, Morin, and Pirri

For

Bernier and a 3rd.
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