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Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
Agreed. if Doan really wants to go to a serious Cup contender, Detroit is not that right now.
- John Jaeckel


I'm wondering if Doan wants a 4-5 yr deal...If he doesn't go up to Canada to finish his career....Montreal/Toronto/Vancouver???

On Twitter@AlCimaglia
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
A good amount of Stastny's production has come from him being "the guy," carrying bad Colorado teams.

Burrows' numbers come from riding the coattails of players like the Sedins or Kesler.

Which player would you rather have?

- EKolb13

Good morning, EK.

How did the paper turn out?
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
Similar to Jay Bo...Only two years left.

Also similar in he is paid as the best at his position for that team and may not be anymore.

- Al


I am all about Statsny as the #2 Center flanked by Hossa and perhaps Saad.

In an NHL12 ideal world Stan offloads Hammer, Frolik, Montador, Olesz, Emery, Stalberg, and Bickell and replaces them with Hannan, Winnik, Doan, Statsny, Tanev, picks and Luongo. Don't see it happening. Rather have Statsny over Lu though
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
Let's be modestly realistic, here. You also have to pull hair and knee prone players in the groin.
- NewToHockey


Yeah, those are bullet points on Burrows' resume as well.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
A good amount of Stastny's production has come from him being "the guy," carrying bad Colorado teams.

Burrows' numbers come from riding the coattails of players like the Sedins or Kesler.

Which player would you rather have?

- EKolb13


Please elaborate. Because I would love to see the statistical evidence. Or is this just your opinion?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
Good morning, EK.

How did the paper turn out?

- NewToHockey


Still a work in progress.

How are you hanging?
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
Hey, someone has to be a complete assbag to draw attention away from the below the belt crap the Sedins pull, so they can get away with it.
- EKolb13


LOL
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Agreed. if Doan really wants to go to a serious Cup contender, Detroit is not that right now.
- John Jaeckel



The way contracts are being offered out this year Doan will probably cost 6.5/3 yr
He is a great player but that is a lot to pay out for 36 year old.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Still a work in progress.

How are you hanging?

- EKolb13


Hey Eli Glad to see you around today. I am "stuck" on the computer today doing University of Phoenix schoolwork so hopefully we see some movement
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Still a work in progress.

How are you hanging?

- EKolb13

My only down day between last Monday and the 18th of August. Either events or work the rest of the time. Mostly sleeping too much this morning.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
I am all about Statsny as the #2 Center flanked by Hossa and perhaps Saad.

In an NHL12 ideal world Stan offloads Hammer, Frolik, Montador, Olesz, Emery, Stalberg, and Bickell and replaces them with Hannan, Winnik, Doan, Statsny, Tanev, picks and Luongo. Don't see it happening. Rather have Statsny over Lu though

- ikeane


But the rubber meets the road here once again...

To have any chance at a top young player Bowman will have to part with some of his most prized draft picks....Not the boys in Rockford and not the kids from this summer.

Until he is willing to do that, don't look for an impact player.

Hammer + McNeil or similar, then the Hawks have a chance.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
I'm wondering if Doan wants a 4-5 yr deal...If he doesn't go up to Canada to finish his career....Montreal/Toronto/Vancouver???

On Twitter@AlCimaglia

- Al



If he retires it counts against the cap.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:26 PM ET
I am very late in replying, but you still haven't answered the question, as a Hawks fan, is the idea of trading some of your future for another prospect goalie that may in fact be no better then the one you have now worth the risk? Sure, Crawford under performed a bit in the playoffs, but he was lights out the previous year no?
- 1970vintage


I'm a big Crawford fan, but the problem is that he's had one great season and one poor season which leaves us speculating about next season. With Luongo in net we'd know that the goaltending situation is secure. Crawford could be awesome (or Crawesome) next season but we just don't know.

The only down side to getting Luongo is the length of his contract and what it would cost to get him. I have not problem giving up prospects (aside from Saad and this years 1st round pick) and some lower end players (ie Bickell). But I know some salary would have to back so Frolik would likely have to go, unless Crawford goes to Vancouver.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:26 PM ET
That's awesome, exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks much.
- RickJ


My Pleasure.
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
If he retires it counts against the cap.
- VANTEL

So you trade his contract to Columbus and they eat up cap space at no cost.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
I am all about Statsny as the #2 Center flanked by Hossa and perhaps Saad.

In an NHL12 ideal world Stan offloads Hammer, Frolik, Montador, Olesz, Emery, Stalberg, and Bickell and replaces them with Hannan, Winnik, Doan, Statsny, Tanev, picks and Luongo. Don't see it happening. Rather have Statsny over Lu though

- ikeane


Then hockey is not the sport you should be following chum.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
Hey Eli Glad to see you around today. I am "stuck" on the computer today doing University of Phoenix schoolwork so hopefully we see some movement
- ikeane


I have my doubts on the idea that there will be much movement. My gut still tells me everything is in a holding pattern until Doan makes a decision.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 8 @ 12:29 PM ET
Then hockey is not the sport you should be following chum.
- bloatedmosquito


I guess that's a matter of opinion. The same could be said about you.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
So you trade his contract to Columbus and they eat up cap space at no cost.
- NewToHockey



If Columbus does not have Nash and are playing with invisible players then chances are they will be joining Pho in a relocate.
sgt1480
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:33 PM ET
Let's be modestly realistic, here. You also have to pull hair and knee prone players in the groin.
- NewToHockey


How does sid the kid get a pass for what i believe was just as cowardly and wretched as Burrows did?
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:36 PM ET
How does sid the kid get a pass for what i believe was just as cowardly and wretched as Burrows did?
- sgt1480

Why did Weber get a stern talking to and Torres get 25 games? Different standards for different players. It has always been that way, especially under Bettman.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 8 @ 12:36 PM ET
Then hockey is not the sport you should be following chum.
- bloatedmosquito


Been following the Hawks for 28 years and I understand the importance of Solid Goaltending. I love Lu as a player, but the cap hit and term are what chase me towards wanting Statsny over Lu. 6 more years @ over 5 mil when he is already 33 worries me. Must worry the Canucks too if they are moving forward with Schnieder. In a non-cap scenario I take Lu and Statsny and say it was an outstanding summer. I guess it could be worse, I could be a Canucks fan and face watching diving 101 each year
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:38 PM ET
Burrows plays with the Twins and isn't a center....Outside of that good point.
- Al


Can't deny that playing with the twins can make a decent player great but many of Burrow's points aren't nessacarily twin generated. He has a knack for scoring huge goals at the right time. Played great at the WC (despite injury). No twins.
Has a crazy amount of short handed goals as well.

He's actually a centre converted to the wing.

Anyway, back to Lu. What's the Italian community like in Chicago.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
But the rubber meets the road here once again...

To have any chance at a top young player Bowman will have to part with some of his most prized draft picks....Not the boys in Rockford and not the kids from this summer.

Until he is willing to do that, don't look for an impact player.

Hammer + McNeil or similar, then the Hawks have a chance.

- Al


Al,

Just for the record; what is your pecking order of the Hawks prospects? I.E. #1,#2...

Thanks,
BW
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
Can't deny that playing with the twins can make a decent player great but many of Burrow's points aren't nessacarily twin generated. He has a knack for scoring huge goals at the right time. Played great at the WC (despite injury). No twins.
Has a crazy amount of short handed goals as well.

He's actually a centre converted to the wing.

Anyway, back to Lu. What's the Italian community like in Chicago.

- bloatedmosquito

The legitimate Italian community or the mafia? Actually, both flourish here.
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