Yashin leaving was all because of the fans. He was soft and didn't produce like he should have. One of the most hated Isles in recent history by the fanbase.
- NYIDRIVE4FIVE

Buying him out was a waste. Prob should have put him through waivers and seen if any club would pick him up. Then Isles would only be on hook for 1/2 his salary.

Tell me though, who has surpassed his last seasons' point total, since?
Only one guy. And it only happened this year.

And yes, putting him on the wing might have relieved him of defensive duty, which couldn't have hurt.

Straight up....who would you rather have/would have produced more this past season? Yashin or Rolston?

seems like a fairly easy problem to solve - limit contracts to the length of the CBA. Not saying co-term all contracts to the CBA, just limit the duration in years to the length of the CBA. "No SPC shall be approved by the league whose term exceeds the term of the current CBA in years, and no SPC will span more than (2) CBA's with the standard length of the CBA being five years" Meaning, a contract could spill over from one CBA to the next, but not into a third.

Just food for thought for those of you who wouldn't take Semin on the Isles. Moot point because we're never going to sign him, but just the other side of the argument.

http://www.lighthousehock...in-nhl-free-agent-reasons

Not sure why you always have to bring up the Rangers in your posts. I understand their hated rivals but its an obsession with you. You actually make many valid points about Yashin. Unfortunately I think the fans hated the contract and how much money he was making and took it out on him. Fair or unfair I think it played a big part.
- Vukota

The Islanders and Rangers went head to head for many of those playoff spots, so check the obsession comments at the door, those were the standings.

Yashin's Islanders beat out a lot of teams (which I wrote) with higher payrolls who had players making money comparable to him.

The media hated the contract and Yashin did not fill quote books, so when he came back for the 2004 playoffs after his wrist was sliced open and Khabibulin stole the series Yashin was scapegoated. Alan Hahn killed him daily when he was named captain and even falsely reported Parrish would not sign because of Yashin in one article.

For the six years he was here, the man never said one unkind word about anyone.

Yashin leaving was all because of the fans. He was soft and didn't produce like he should have. One of the most hated Isles in recent history by the fanbase.
- NYIDRIVE4FIVE

I understand how people throw the word "hate" around on this site. Like it's loose change.

I never hated Yashin. Was I disappointed with him at times? Yeah. Worthy of Hate? No. He was the best player we had since Pat Lafontaine. He didn't ASK for the $$$ we gave or the length of the contract. Ottawa deserves to hate him, like WE deserve to hate Kirk Muller or Dale Hunter or Darcy Tucker but Yashin showed up to play. I can't say whether he gave 100% every night or not. How many of you think you could sustain an 82 game season and play like Pete Rose night in & night out?
The Isles chose to buy him out. What's a guy to do?

How many town/city/state employees have taken advantage of retirement pensions by bloating their last year of work with overtime to boost their base from which they get the 1/2 salary, tax-free, for the rest of their lives???? How many "fake" a disability pension claiming to have sustained debilitating injury to get the 3/4 salary?
How many get exposed when they take on another laborious job after they've retired?(not enough) He didn't ask for a buyout. He would have played. He could have helped the team. Anyone who doesn't think so must have eaten a big bowl of stupid for breakfast this morning.

The Islanders and Rangers went head to head for many of those playoff spots, so check the obsession comments at the door, those were the standings.

Yashin's Islanders beat out a lot of teams (which I wrote) with higher payrolls who had players making money comparable to him.

The media hated the contract and Yashin did not fill quote books, so when he came back for the 2004 playoffs after his wrist was sliced open and Khabibulin stole the series Yashin was scapegoated. Alan Hahn killed him daily when he was named captain and even falsely reported Parrish would not sign because of Yashin in one article.

For the six years he was here, the man never said one unkind word about anyone.
- NYI

I met him once after his first game as an islander, he was a polite and respectful person. I was there when his wrist was sliced and it was a sad time.

Straight up....who would you rather have/would have produced more this past season? Yashin or Rolston?
- jmo16

Wrong question. Would you rather have Yashin at his full cap hit or the centers signed to replace him.

On paper Rolston's second half with the Devils in 2010-11 was far superior, which he again showed in Boston.

I only wish Yashin's buyout somehow kept Josef Vasicek in the NHL for 2011-12.

I met him once after his first game as an islander, he was a polite and respectful person. I was there when his wrist was sliced and it was a sad time.
- ISLES1119

I remember reading during the lockout, despite losing a year's pay, the rollback of his salary which costs him millions, at a time players were furious he hosted many of the teams prospects at his house and kept quiet.

Yashin's a huge reason for these front-loaded deals. No player wants to lose twenty four percent of their salary, then lose another 1/3 after a buyout, they want their cash upfront.

He signed for 88m, how much after all the buyouts, givebacks did he make 60m or even less?

Yashin's biggest problem was his agent, Gandler's interviews always made things worse, even after the buyout every summer he kept yapping about how he was coming back. Last fall he was practicing with the Isles, his family was with Wang at practice and still he did not get a contract.

seems like a fairly easy problem to solve - limit contracts to the length of the CBA. Not saying co-term all contracts to the CBA, just limit the duration in years to the length of the CBA. "No SPC shall be approved by the league whose term exceeds the term of the current CBA in years, and no SPC will span more than (2) CBA's with the standard length of the CBA being five years" Meaning, a contract could spill over from one CBA to the next, but not into a third.
- sfischer

Ted Leonsis who signed Jagr, Kovalchuk, who get's a revenue sharing check from the NHL in his taxpayer funded facility does not approve.

The fans pressure the owners and sooner or later most of them pay-----especially Wang who's turn came in the summer of 2001 and again last summer.

The corporate teams take the red ink and can dump the contracts around the NHL with Richards, Gomez, so they can find the next one to flood the market.

Buffalo's new owner last summer had his turn, this summer Leopold faced the pressure and paid despite his claim of losing money.

Dee, it's impossible for quick to become the second coming of dipietro. Because quick IS an elite goaltender, and he accomplished more at the age of 26 than dipietro ever will. Quick has been a vezina finalist, won the conn smythe trophy, and the stanley cup.
- The Iceman

This is why I don't read her stuff, plain and simple.

All i can say is... Yes!!



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- XxNYIxX

I honestly never hated the guy. He was over paid which we all knew. A lot of us myself included expected more bang for the buck and when he didn't deliver... But I never wanted to see a buy out and his scoring not replaced? How can you possibly buy out your leading scorer and not replace it? I think that's when the animosity started with a lot of fans myself included. I'm not writing this in Yashin's defense as much as in Wang's craziness/ignorance. It just makes zero sense.

was looking at capgeek I forgot JT was signed for the next six years at only 5.5 million per year. That is an absolute steal. Best contract in the NHL. WOW
- mighty13duck

Snow's best thing he has done as a GM bar none.

Not sure why you always have to bring up the Rangers in your posts. I understand their hated rivals but its an obsession with you. You actually make many valid points about Yashin. Unfortunately I think the fans hated the contract and how much money he was making and took it out on him. Fair or unfair I think it played a big part.
- Vukota

Dude, don't bother. Trust me. Grab a nail and hammer it into a wall with your head it will be easier.

Not sure why you always have to bring up the Rangers in your posts. I understand their hated rivals but its an obsession with you. You actually make many valid points about Yashin. Unfortunately I think the fans hated the contract and how much money he was making and took it out on him. Fair or unfair I think it played a big part.
- Vukota

As it does with a lot of large contracts. With that contract comes lofty expectations. You can't ever blame the athletes for taking it of course.

Yashin's biggest problem just like DP now was/is the contract. They are unfairly hated for contracts they were given.
Yashin played very well when he was here.

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- XxNYIxX

DP is more hated for trying as sick as it sounds. Every time he makes a "come back" and trys to play again it disrupts the team. Like it or not it's the truth. The fact that management allows it to happen makes it worse. Unfortunately the angst gets directed on him. Is what it is.

JT probably assumed Snow would take the extra cash and bring some talent in to help him out..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRmc9IPGmiA
- Vukota

It would make sense but I'll admit it's speculation. Though this has been my feeling since he signed that contract. In fact when he signed it I was happy because a part of me(admittedly small part)actually believed that there had to be some positive changes . There is no way that kid who wants to win so badly would have signed on if he thought Snows off season would have consisted of Carkner, Boulton, and freaking Boyes playing on his wing. Wonder if he would have signed knowing who his new line mate was going to be?

Buying him out was a waste. Prob should have put him through waivers and seen if any club would pick him up. Then Isles would only be on hook for 1/2 his salary.

Tell me though, who has surpassed his last seasons' point total, since?
Only one guy. And it only happened this year.

And yes, putting him on the wing might have relieved him of defensive duty, which couldn't have hurt.

Straight up....who would you rather have/would have produced more this past season? Yashin or Rolston?
- jmo16

That's the problem and one of the many reasons why myself and most people have a hard time believing in management for this club. As usual it makes no sense

I met him once after his first game as an islander, he was a polite and respectful person. I was there when his wrist was sliced and it was a sad time.
- ISLES1119

I was there too and it's a shame because he got hurt and he was also playing his best hockey as an Islander and maybe his career for that whole month. Sucked

I was there too and it's a shame because he got hurt and he was also playing his best hockey as an Islander and maybe his career for that whole month. Sucked
- Cptmjl

oh yeah Yashin was my favorite when we made it into the playoffs. I was not fond of Michael Peca and others. I missed those old times when we had boys like webb and carins who beat others up. I never forgot the experiences when we played against maple leafs in the playoffs. It was amazing. God knows that we would have won the series if it wasn't for tucker hit against Peca. I still loathe Tucker until the day I die.

http://www.newsday.com/sp...r-1.3825413#disqus_thread

Nothing will get done with these clowns

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/mangano-tries-again-to-get-hub-developer-1.3825413#disqus_thread

Nothing will get done with these clowns
- Vukota

Maybe Wang will go back on sports talk radio and guarenty that the Isles will make the playoffs this year, another bold pridiction from a clown

Just copied this little piece from an article on the Isles website...

Former Islanders defenseman Steve Staios, who now works in the Toronto Maple Leafs front office, played 15 years in the NHL before signing a one-year deal with the Islanders last summer.

Did he officially retire?

It would make sense but I'll admit it's speculation. Though this has been my feeling since he signed that contract. In fact when he signed it I was happy because a part of me(admittedly small part)actually believed that there had to be some positive changes . There is no way that kid who wants to win so badly would have signed on if he thought Snows off season would have consisted of Carkner, Boulton, and freaking Boyes playing on his wing. Wonder if he would have signed knowing who his new line mate was going to be?
- Cptmjl

of course he would have.... he knows he couldnt be a FA till 27... so he signed the inevitable contract... he gave up 1 year of freedom.. and if this team isnt playing important games in april & may by the time the contract is up.. he will be gone

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Just copied this little piece from an article on the Isles website...

Former Islanders defenseman Steve Staios, who now works in the Toronto Maple Leafs front office, played 15 years in the NHL before signing a one-year deal with the Islanders last summer.

Did he officially retire?
- Vukota

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Yashin's problem was simple- he was a second line left wing being paid to play first line center and be Mark Messier, two things of which he was incapable. Moreover, the Yashin trade cost us what would have been our best defenseman for the next five years, which is a trade I never make myself, although some would argue that point. Compounding the issue, the fact that Wang paid Yashin all that money seemingly automatically made him captain, a role for which he was ill suited. Yashin wasn't a bad player, he just wasn't what Milbury thought he got (typical), which wasn't his fault. I'd take him back for the contract I was offering Kostitsyn, no problem....as long as everyone realizes he's not here to be king, he'd be fine.