An opinion is not a fact and mine is an opinion and never once stated as a fact.Everyone has thier opinion that is what places like this are for.Calling one childish for stating thier opinion makes you the childish one and its another opinion as well.You ready to move on yet or just play fb games here ?
- buffalo 1

WTF are you talking about?

Nash has been the top point producer on Columbus since he got there. That is a fact. The fact that you say the top point producer in Columbus is lucky to be playing in the NHL with all his "crying" is laughable.

Therefore your childish opinion about Nash is laughable. Get it? I use facts and you use opinions.

Your point was not made.....

Teams like pits/washington/philly build around there superstars.

That means O,D,G. Columbus has pretty much failed in all parts.

I guarantee that wherever Nash goes he will have a career year. Why? Because wherever he goes is a upgrade over columbus.

Also you keep missing the point that i said Crosby is the best player in the world. I like how he is the only one you compare to with Nash.
- Smittyx36

Crosby is the best player in the (World) ! Hum, is this based on world facts or an opinon?

Your point was not made.....

Teams like pits/washington/philly build around there superstars.

That means O,D,G. Columbus has pretty much failed in all parts.

I guarantee that wherever Nash goes he will have a career year. Why? Because wherever he goes is a upgrade over columbus.

Also you keep missing the point that i said Crosby is the best player in the world. I like how he is the only one you compare to with Nash.
- Smittyx36

Take Leino for example. Look how horrible he is here. And then look at what he was able to do with briere. Briere made Leino that much better. There is no one that leaves Columbus and does way worse than they did when they were there. And the reason to that?? Nash is not that great of a player. Nash is a 60 some point scorer.

WTF are you talking about?

Nash has been the top point producer on Columbus since he got there. That is a fact. The fact that you say the top point producer in Columbus is lucky to be playing in the NHL with all his "crying" is laughable.

Therefore your childish opinion about Nash is laughable. Get it? I use facts and you use opinions.
- Smittyx36

Read more slowly next time.

I can't find Vanek's contract makeup. I'm curious to see how much he actually makes per year in the last 3 years of it. If he makes less than his cap hit, which he probably does because he was paid $10,000,000 his first year then it might be easier for Columbas or any other team to deal for him.

Take Leino for example. Look how horrible he is here. And then look at what he was able to do with briere. Briere made Leino that much better. There is no one that leaves Columbus and does way worse than they did when they were there. And the reason to that?? Nash is not that great of a player. Nash is a 60 some point scorer.
- Mentalorgasm5

Correct On Leinio and why he sucks so bad here.Thats an opinion for me of course.

No I could do it for the rest, cause my point is when you pay someone as much as Nash, and he supposedly this all world player, HE should be making the players around he better, he should not need to be traded to have a career year. Especially when I can rattle off players that he has played with that are better than other franchise players.
- Mentalorgasm5

He played with Carter for half a year. That's the ONLY player from Columbus that comes even close to other franchise players.

Giroux has a much better suporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Ovi has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Crosby/Malkin has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Tampa has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Chicago has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

San Jose has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Vancouver has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right

NYR has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right


Prove me wrong in one of these PLEASE! You can't. Nash is rotting away on a terrible team.

I can't find Vanek's contract makeup. I'm curious to see how much he actually makes per year in the last 3 years of it. If he makes less than his cap hit, which he probably does because he was paid $10,000,000 his first year then it might be easier for Columbas or any other team to deal for him.
- GilPerreault

Hey from your post last night talking to that Sabres employee did he state we were still interested in Nash or they were and already tried?

He played with Carter for half a year. That's the ONLY player from Columbus that comes even close to other franchise players.

Giroux has a much better suporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Ovi has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Crosby/Malkin has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Tampa has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Chicago has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

San Jose has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right?

Vancouver has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right

NYR has a much better supporting cast then Columbus? Right


Prove me wrong in one of these PLEASE! You can't. Nash is rotting away on a terrible team.
- Smittyx36

Wow just because you say they are better does not mean they are, I am done.

I will leave the arguement the same way you are making your points....

Nash is not that good? Right

Take Leino for example. Look how horrible he is here. And then look at what he was able to do with briere. Briere made Leino that much better. There is no one that leaves Columbus and does way worse than they did when they were there. And the reason to that?? Nash is not that great of a player. Nash is a 60 some point scorer.
- Mentalorgasm5

Leino? He wasn't good there. He had ONE OKAY year. 19G 34A. Other then that he had 4pts and 7pts. Terrible example.

Wow just because you say they are better does not mean they are, I am done.

I will leave the arguement the same way you are making your points....

Nash is not that good? Right
- Mentalorgasm5

Your done because you can't argue with facts. Get lost.

Your done because you can't argue with facts. Get lost.
- Smittyx36

No cause you fail to read, Ive already listed the facts.

Leino? He wasn't good there. He had ONE OKAY year. 19G 34A. Other then that he had 4pts and 7pts. Terrible example.
- Smittyx36

haha, he only played one full year there and had 53 pts, and that proves my point more, briere made him that much better that one year, NASH HAS NEVER DONE THAT FOR ANY OF HIS LINEMATES.

No cause you fail to read, Ive already listed the facts.
- Mentalorgasm5

Those aren't facts kiddo. I used facts you used opinions.

You would be laughed out of any NHL team if you told them Nash has been provided with a good group of players.

haha, he only played one full year there and had 53 pts, and that proves my point more, briere made him that much better that one year, NASH HAS NEVER DONE THAT FOR ANY OF HIS LINEMATES.
- Mentalorgasm5

Playing on the 3rd line can do that for ya

I'm done here for the day. I got a good laugh out of you two guys.

Thanks for the entertainment.

Your done because you can't argue with facts. Get lost.
- Smittyx36

The fact is you dont really know what Nash would do on a different team or what his true value is till it happens.Thats a fact.

garth should be tarred and feathered for writing this blog...getting rid of vanek would be a horrible mistake....for statsny...really!??!...come on...how about we wait and see how vanek plays this season when he stays is actually healthy. Half the reason vanek's production drops off is because he is fighting some sort of injury (the other half is mental). Both problems can be remedied now that we have gotten bigger and tougher. I'd be money that Ott and Scott now running around causing havok with kaleta and MaC teams will be alot less likely to take a run at our BEST player...vanek gets that extra .5 of a second to line up his uberaccurate shot and boom!...confidence back...no injury...back to a 40 goal season.......

on an unrelated note...i was just remembering that i was impressed with erhoff's leadership..he should get an A next season...really stepped up when this team was down

Nash vs Vanek.....
You'd be hard pressed to find many ppl who don't think Nash is the better player
There's a reason it'd be Vanek + + for Nash and not the other way around
However,
Is Nash so much better that it's worth it to give up the "+ +" part of the deal?
Probably not
Nashville is asking a CRAZY amount back for Nash
Unless theyll take guys like Brennan, Adam, Catenacci, etc... (and I doubt they would... It's prob be more like Armia, McNabb, Pysyk, etc)
Then I'd say no to the deal

A Vanek for Nash deal is a lateral move anyways
We need to add a top6 winger without giving up any guys we have pencilled into the lineup...
Otherwise we'd still have a hole to fill...
So what would be the point?

garth should be tarred and feathered for writing this blog...getting rid of vanek would be a horrible mistake....for statsny...really!??!...come on...how about we wait and see how vanek plays this season when he stays is actually healthy. Half the reason vanek's production drops off is because he is fighting some sort of injury (the other half is mental). Both problems can be remedied now that we have gotten bigger and tougher. I'd be money that Ott and Scott now running around causing havok with kaleta and MaC teams will be alot less likely to take a run at our BEST player...vanek gets that extra .5 of a second to line up his uberaccurate shot and boom!...confidence back...no injury...back to a 40 goal season.......

on an unrelated note...i was just remembering that i was impressed with erhoff's leadership..he should get an A next season...really stepped up when this team was down
- feetontheair22

haha, he only played one full year there and had 53 pts, and that proves my point more, briere made him that much better that one year, NASH HAS NEVER DONE THAT FOR ANY OF HIS LINEMATES.
- Mentalorgasm5

Umbrrger and Vermette have both had their best years on Columbus...
True or false?

I can't find Vanek's contract makeup. I'm curious to see how much he actually makes per year in the last 3 years of it. If he makes less than his cap hit, which he probably does because he was paid $10,000,000 his first year then it might be easier for Columbas or any other team to deal for him.
- GilPerreault

He only has this coming year and then one more year left
He makes 6.4m both seasons

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/BUF?year=2013

Erhoff's turned out to be a major asset down the stretch and when he was injured our team had some major issues on the back end.I think his play has made Myers expendable in the right trade senerio.

Umbrrger and Vermette have both had their best years on Columbus...
True or false?
- jdfitz77

Philly and Ottawa respectively but those are opinons not facts.

Erhoff's turned out to be a major asset down the stretch and when he was injured our team had some major issues on the back end.I think his play has made Myers expendable in the right trade senerio.
- buffalo 1

I agree I love Ehrhoff, but the organization will not part with Myers he is their one untouchable for some reason.