For Luongo, you have to. Its the only solution to the goaltending. If there were other options, fine, but there are none. The lone exception....MIGHT be Backstrom, but I dont see the Wild giving him up. After the money the spent, they cant put the whole season on Hardings unproven shoulders to give them solid goaltending. Cap space might force the issue, but they should have lots of it even after signings.
- Gunslinger

Yeah I agree that Backstrom might be the only other option.

That said they wouldn't let him go for nothing, even if it is a contract year

I wonder if getting Luongo would encourage Doan to sign here
- AngryWhiteMale

My dream scenario.

And a miracle trade for a #1 C. Man this team could make the playoffs!!

My dream scenario.

And a miracle trade for a #1 C. Man this team could make the playoffs!!
- Gunslinger

I make myself laugh sometimes.

Yeah I agree that Backstrom might be the only other option.

That said they wouldn't let him go for nothing, even if it is a contract year
- AngryWhiteMale

Yup, Agree. With his injuries though and high salary, might be less expensive than we think, but who knows.

For Luongo, you have to. Its the only solution to the goaltending. If there were other options, fine, but there are none. The lone exception....MIGHT be Backstrom, but I dont see the Wild giving him up. After the money the spent, they cant put the whole season on Hardings unproven shoulders to give them solid goaltending. Cap space might force the issue, but they should have lots of it even after signings.
- Gunslinger

When it's all said and done. If the Leafs don't upgrade their centre or goalie positions it'll be the same story of poop.


Also, I'm not sure why some people are thinking Bernier would be a good one to go after. He's not proven a thing when it comes to starting so I'd be worried about him.

(obviously you didn't bring him up)

How any Leaf fan can continue to want to give up 1st round picks is beyond me, it truly makes me question my sexuality.

When it's all said and done. If the Leafs don't upgrade their centre or goalie positions it'll be the same story of poop.


Also, I'm not sure why some people are thinking Bernier would be a good one to go after. He's not proven a thing when it comes to starting so I'd be worried about him.

(obviously you didn't bring him up)
- weirdoh

I'm also convinced that at this point, there's really nothing special about Bernier.

And the fact is that the reason we're in on Luongo is because Gillis is in such a tight position with the contract and all, that we can get Lu for a price that is relatively cheap for a legit starter.

Whereas, Bernier, being cheaper, not tied down, and LA being in NO rush to move him, will command a lot more on the market.


Also, I heard a rumour that it's Kadri + for Marleau.

If you think Stats rumours make you nautious you should see my face if we get Marleau.

He's a massive choker

When it's all said and done. If the Leafs don't upgrade their centre or and goalie positions it'll be the same story of poop.


Also, I'm not sure why some people are thinking Bernier would be a good one to go after. He's not proven a thing when it comes to starting so I'd be worried about him.

(obviously you didn't bring him up)
- weirdoh

100% agreed. Especially in this market.

How any Leaf fan can continue to want to give up 1st round picks is beyond me, it truly makes me question my sexuality.
- Leafland

Dude. Nobody wants to give up first rounders. Sometimes you have to. This is one of those instances.

As much as everyone wants to keep our picks, WE MISS THE PLAYOFFS AND NEED TO MAKE THEM MORE!

Its amazing how people act like any of Torontos first round picks since Clark in the 80's has amounted to anything more than an Antropov, Schenn, Tlusty an Steen.

Rask might be the exception. But with Luongo, that pick shouldnt be near top 10

How any Leaf fan can continue to want to give up 1st round picks is beyond me, it truly makes me question my sexuality.
- Leafland

Interesting. We should get together and (frank).

Interesting. We should get together and (frank).
- weirdoh

Count me in...

Dude. Nobody wants to give up first rounders. Sometimes you have to. This is one of those instances.

As much as everyone wants to keep our picks, WE MISS THE PLAYOFFS AND NEED TO MAKE THEM MORE!

Its amazing how people act like any of Torontos first round picks since Clark in the 80's has amounted to anything more than an Antropov.
- Gunslinger

Nope.

I'm also not as concerned about that pick. It certainly wouldn't be in the top 10.

Plus, you also have to wonder how much we'd get for Reimer on the market
- AngryWhiteMale

Prolly get an average backup goalie for him.

Dude. Nobody wants to give up first rounders. Sometimes you have to. This is one of those instances.

As much as everyone wants to keep our picks, WE MISS THE PLAYOFFS AND NEED TO MAKE THEM MORE!

Its amazing how people act like any of Torontos first round picks since Clark in the 80's has amounted to anything more than an Antropov.
- Gunslinger

Its more then that. You build a team through the first round picks, whether they are lottery or they are 10-15, to trade another for a top 15 goalie, or may actually have a mental breakdown here.... it blows my mind. I'm not even against get Louongo, but to trade a 1st for him is a huge mistake, and not even needed.

Prolly get an average backup goalie for him.
- robin_steele264

Nope.
- burn

Agree to disagree.



The idea of missing the playoffs for another 6 seasons is worth me swallowing my pride and accepting Luongo, whom I despise.

Agree to disagree.



The idea of missing the playoffs for another 6 seasons is worth me swallowing my pride and accepting Luongo, whom I despise.
- Gunslinger

Likewise.

Its more then that. You build a team through the first round picks, whether they are lottery or they are 10-15, to trade another for a top 15 goalie, or may actually have a mental breakdown here.... it blows my mind. I'm not even against get Louongo, but to trade a 1st for him is a huge mistake, and not even needed.
- Leafland

I dont disagree.

But this team needs a proven goalie, an elite one at that, more than it needs a pick. Which may or may not amount to anything. Its a no brainer in this case.

Not needed? Luongo is not needed? Top 15 goalie? I dont see a point in discussing this with you if you truly believe that. We dont need Luongo like we dont need Malkin.

Agree to disagree.



The idea of missing the playoffs for another 6 seasons is worth me swallowing my pride and accepting Luongo, whom I despise.
- Gunslinger

I didn't backread, but please tell me you're not one of those who would give the Canucks a fist for Lu?

Agree to disagree.



The idea of missing the playoffs for another 6 seasons is worth me swallowing my pride and accepting Luongo, whom I despise.
- Gunslinger

Word up

I didn't backread, but please tell me you're not one of those who would give the Canucks a fist for Lu?
- Flyfreaky

I would lottery protect it, but yes, I would.

When you havent seen a playoff game in almost 10 years, then you will understand. Fortunately, for you, its nothing something you can comprehend.

I dont disagree.

But this team needs a proven goalie, an elite one at that, more than it needs a pick. Which may or may not amount to anything. Its a no brainer in this case.

Not needed? Luongo is not needed? Top 15 goalie? I dont see a point in discussing this with you if you truly believe that. We dont need Luongo like we dont need Malkin.
- Gunslinger

We're a fickle bunch. If there was an offer on the table for 2 firsts, 2 2nds, Kadri and whatever else for Malkin some would still look at those 1sts as the deal breaker.

We're a fickle bunch. If there was an offer on the table for 2 firsts, 2 2nds, Kadri and whatever else for Malkin some would still look at those 1sts as the deal breaker.
- weirdoh

Malkin is a frickin Russian with a HUGE cap hit.

are you NUTS????

Agree to disagree.



The idea of missing the playoffs for another 6 seasons is worth me swallowing my pride and accepting Luongo, whom I despise.
- Gunslinger

No it without the 1st. I despise him(and his contract too) and I want to make the playoffs as well. I think Lou can get us there, but I am not willing to lose a 1st over it. He have to suck it up and get lou we have to do so without including the 1st.

We're a fickle bunch. If there was an offer on the table for 2 firsts, 2 2nds, Kadri and whatever else for Malkin some would still look at those 1sts as the deal breaker.
- weirdoh

Im sure you know the value and importance of 1st round picks, but to not give one up for an elite goalie when your team has been a disgrace for years is foolish.

As valuable as 1st rounders are, probably 30% of them ever become impact players. Valuable as they may be, there is a lot of risk and luck involved as well.

Its idiotic to trade 1sts for guys like Toskala, but it's not a horrible move for an elite player, that could end your teams shameful demise.