keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100% Joined: 12.11.2008
|
|
|
Bozak : 114 hits
Kuli: 97 hits
Grabo: 56 hits
Source: nhl.com - Dozzer
|
|
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
|
|
|
Good for him
I guess I just thought he was soft because he usually doesn't finish his checks I find. - maverickJ
Well then i guess your opinion has changed on him. |
|
maverickJ
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Earth, ON Joined: 04.01.2012
|
|
|
Well then i guess your opinion has changed on him. - Leafland
Yeah definitely |
|
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
|
|
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
|
|
|
Well then i guess your opinion has changed on him. - Leafland
ya he's a beast |
|
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
|
|
|
ya he's a beast - DoubleDown
Yours to? Very good. |
|
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
|
|
|
ya he's a beast - DoubleDown
Bozak would be the 2nd most physical forward on Montreal. |
|
|
|
Bozak would be the 2nd most physical forward on Montreal. - Leafland
Right behind Prust. |
|
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Somewhere Between, NB Joined: 07.17.2010
|
|
|
Grabbo and Kule soft?? WTF is that all about??...Grabbo is most fearless player on the team next to Brown, and Kule is prob the best 2 way grinder we have...soft doesn't mean fisticuffs, it means fearful of checks and incoming shots, and afraid to grind in the dirty areas....like kessel...but kessel is our sniper....he has a different role |
|
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
|
|
|
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS Joined: 06.27.2011
|
|
|
these last few days have been boring wheres all the trades at |
|
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
|
|
|
Right behind Prust. - Unholy_Forward
Was gonna say Armstrong |
|
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
|
|
|
Interesting, but I take NHL hitting stats with a grain of salt they aren't always the most accurate. I still feel like Bozak is softer than Kulemin - maverickJ
LOL
Nice reply....so if the NHL hitting stats had said that Kulemin had more hits, you'd be fine with it?
I love it. |
|
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
|
|
|
Yeah definitely - maverickJ
All it took was two video clips? |
|
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
|
|
|
Ok, let's define "soft" before we start tagging players with it, ok? In my mind, soft is the kind of player who a) has low hits b) avoids difficult areas in the ice c) gets pushed around easily.
Phil Kessel is soft. There were a few points in the season where he was going in the corners, was driving the net, and subsequently, he was rewarded with it. Why he stopped? I don't know. Regardless, he hasn't done that consistently enough to not be considered soft.
On the other end of the spectrum would be guys that play on the edge, sandpaper guys, agitators, fighters, bangers. Guy's like Clutterbuck, Dustin Brown, Mike Brown.
Somewhere in the middle are guys like Bozak, Kulemin, and Grabovski. They don't necessarily play on the edge, but they're also nowhere near soft. They're average hitters, they're not afraid of corners, they don't back down when challenged, but also do not seek out fights and scrums, nor do they chirp and agitate.
|
|
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
|
|
|
Ok, let's define "soft" before we start tagging players with it, ok? In my mind, soft is the kind of player who a) has low hits b) avoids difficult areas in the ice c) gets pushed around easily.
Phil Kessel is soft. There were a few points in the season where he was going in the corners, was driving the net, and subsequently, he was rewarded with it. Why he stopped? I don't know. Regardless, he hasn't done that consistently enough to not be considered soft.
On the other end of the spectrum would be guys that play on the edge, sandpaper guys, agitators, fighters, bangers. Guy's like Clutterbuck, Dustin Brown, Mike Brown.
Somewhere in the middle are guys like Bozak, Kulemin, and Grabovski. They don't necessarily play on the edge, but they're also nowhere near soft. They're average hitters, they're not afraid of corners, they don't back down when challenged, but also do not seek out fights and scrums, nor do they chirp and agitate. - gravyface
0------1------2------3------4------5------6-----7------8------9------10
K....................... K.......B....................G
e........................u.......o.................... r
s.........................l........z.....................a |
|
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
|
|
|
0------1------2------3------4------5------6-----7------8------9------10
K....................... K.......B....................G
e........................u.......o.................... r
s.........................l........z.....................a - Leafland
Kulemin's closer to the middle, Grabs further to the left, but yeah, something like that. |
|
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
|
|
|
Kulemin's closer to the middle, Grabs further to the left, but yeah, something like that. - gravyface
So Kulemins gotten KOd by Gleason and Grabos fought Neil, but hes still softer? Not to mention all the other poop Grabo does. How about Kulemins 6 pims this season.. he doesn't seem to be sticking his nose in anywhere. |
|
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
|
|
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
|
|
|
So Kulemins gotten KOd by Gleason and Grabos fought Neil, but hes still softer? Not to mention all the other poop Grabo does. How about Kulemins 6 pims this season.. he doesn't seem to be sticking his nose in anywhere. - Leafland
Grabo is a little tank. Never seen a guy take so many blows to the head and never get hurt |
|
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
|
|
|
So Kulemins gotten KOd by Gleason and Grabos fought Neil, but hes still softer? Not to mention all the other poop Grabo does. How about Kulemins 6 pims this season.. he doesn't seem to be sticking his nose in anywhere. - Leafland
He's our best defensive forward, he's not supposed to take penalties. Fighting is a skill that very few in the NHL are actual good at. Gleason is one of those. Props to Kulemin for sticking up for his teammate and fighting a guy who he had to have known would've knocked his block off.
I'm not saying Grabs softer, I'm just saying they're closer in toughness than you had in your scale. |
|
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
|
|
|
He's our best defensive forward, he's not supposed to take penalties. Fighting is a skill that very few in the NHL are actual good at. Gleason is one of those. Props to Kulemin for sticking up for his teammate and fighting a guy who he had to have known would've knocked his block off.
I'm not saying Grabs softer, I'm just saying they're closer in toughness than you had in your scale. - gravyface
I respect your opinion, but i agree to disagree. |
|
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties Joined: 06.27.2012
|
|
|
Grabo is a little tank. Never seen a guy take so many blows to the head and never get hurt - AdamFrench
He gets hurt but it only shows in his interviews. |
|
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
|
|
|
Grabo is a little tank. Never seen a guy take so many blows to the head and never get hurt - AdamFrench
He can get pretty wild. |
|
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
|
|
|
I respect your opinion, but i agree to disagree. - Leafland
Ok, besides losing a fight to Gleason and having low PIMs, what else makes Kulemin soft? |
|
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON Joined: 10.25.2011
|
|
|
Ok, besides losing a fight to Gleason and having low PIMs, what else makes Kulemin soft? - gravyface
What makes him not soft? Don't bring up his hit on Kaleta either, or how he is so strong on the puck, because, well... he wasn't strong on the puck last year. |
|
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
|
|
|
What makes him not soft? Don't bring up his hit on Kaleta either, or how he is so strong on the puck, because, well... he wasn't strong on the puck last year. - Leafland
I already explained my definition of soft and playing with an edge. Kulemin's in the middle, that's all I'm saying. You had him at 2 on scale to 10, 10 being the "tough" end. I think he's closer to 5. That's all. |
|