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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:26 PM ET
Oh yeah, Weiss or Versteeg either. Will not happen. I actually ammend that to say Kulikov may be included in a deal. You guys can have Jovo back too. It just isn't worth our future. I am one of the many fans hoping this deal does not go down unless we get some scoring back as well. Theodor?e has to go the other way, along with a contract. If one of our top guys goes back, we riot. Hey, you guys can help us out with that, right?
- Panthers88

So you are suggesting
To Panthers-Luongo and Raymond
To Van Kulikov, Jovo, and Theodore?
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:27 PM ET
Will not be Gudbranson, Kulikov, Howden, Bjugstad, or Petrovic. So you guys know.
- Panthers88


Dale Tallon, that you?
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:28 PM ET
Your liver = my lungs.
- bloatedmosquito


My lungs cleared up quickly enough, but my poor liver was bloated and bruised.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:28 PM ET
So you are suggesting
To Panthers-Luongo and Raymond
To Van Kulikov, Jovo, and Theodore?

- Bieksa#3

I could actually see that as happening. Reason being, Kulikov has been super injury prone. That's the most fair offer I've seen so far. Plus, we have some great D prospects coming up and signed Ellerby to a one way offer today, giving us 8 blue liners on a one way deal. Something has got to give.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:28 PM ET
Dale Tallon, that you?
- Whiskey-Tango

who's askin?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:29 PM ET
Sure, but Franson is no Lamborghini. The Leafs took $7m in un-insurable salary to acquire him. That's a hefty chunk of coin for a depth Dman who had trouble staying in the lineup. They paid for him, just not with player talent which is normal currency used to buy players.
- micah555

There was talk before the year that Lombardi wouldn't even play a game. The mere fact that he's an NHLer puts him above what they gave up in Lebda and Slaney. I don't think the salary really hinders them that much at all. Franson was great in limited minutes, and with Schenn gone could see his role increase.

I don't defend how they used Franson, but that's a different matter than the trade itself. I'll settle for 'they paid an extremely low cost for the value of those two players'.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:29 PM ET
The time is a coming.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=10516&navid=DL|NHL|home

Front page NHL.com
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:31 PM ET
who's askin?
- Panthers88

Mike Gillis
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:31 PM ET
who's askin?
- Panthers88


It's me, Mike.

I though i told you, Bjugstad +
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:32 PM ET
It's me, Mike.

I though i told you, Bjugstad +

- Whiskey-Tango


pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:33 PM ET
who's askin?
- Panthers88

It's Luongo when are you getting a deal done I can't handle this anymore

Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:33 PM ET
It's me, Mike.

I though i told you, Bjugstad +

- Whiskey-Tango

Yes, you did. But then I laughed in your face and called you Nancy.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:34 PM ET
It's Luongo when are you getting a deal done I can't handle this anymore


- pker2theend

Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:36 PM ET
Yes, you did. But then I laughed in your face and called you Nancy.
- Panthers88


And yet you called me back.

I'l be seeing you tomorrow, get the paper work ready.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 6 @ 5:36 PM ET
So is it true that the deal is being held up because of Theodore's NTC? Apparently he has issues with Rollie Melanson from his MTL days. I don't blame him since I think Melanson hurt Luongo more than he helped.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:37 PM ET
So is it true that the deal is being held up because of Theodore's NTC? Apparently he has issues with Rollie Melanson from his MTL days. I don't blame him since I think Melanson hurt Luongo more than he helped.
- Nucker101

That's what I'm hearing. Theodore doesn't want to go there because of him. This is stupid because if this deal doesn't happen, you now have an angry Theodore manning your net during the season.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:38 PM ET



- pker2theend


Where did you find that? Wedding?
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:38 PM ET
So is it true that the deal is being held up because of Theodore's NTC? Apparently he has issues with Rollie Melanson from his MTL days. I don't blame him since I think Melanson hurt Luongo more than he helped.
- Nucker101

Fire Him he broke Luongo I thought we fired him already?
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:39 PM ET
Where did you find that? Wedding?
- bloatedmosquito

I'm very close to Luongo I'm actually his agent. ( Therefore I can not give you the details more to come though)
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:40 PM ET
I'm very close to Luongo I'm actually his agent.
- pker2theend


Then tell him to GTFO.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:41 PM ET
There was talk before the year that Lombardi wouldn't even play a game. The mere fact that he's an NHLer puts him above what they gave up in Lebda and Slaney. I don't think the salary really hinders them that much at all. Franson was great in limited minutes, and with Schenn gone could see his role increase.

I don't defend how they used Franson, but that's a different matter than the trade itself. I'll settle for 'they paid an extremely low cost for the value of those two players'.

- Morris


One man's trash is another man's treasure. Nashville was more than willing to part with Lombardi and Franson.

Lombardi played 62 games, put up 18 points and a team worst -19. All for $3.5m. Seems like his playing was more of a liability than a boon.

Franson is a reasonable player, but this wasn't Patrick White and Daniel Rahimi for Christian Ehrhoff and Brad Lukowich. It was no steal.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:43 PM ET
I'm very close to Luongo I'm actually his agent. ( Therefore I can not give you the details more to come though)
- pker2theend


I have had very direct and comprehensive discussions with Gilles Lupien, and i can honestly say that you are in fact, not him.

He has a decent sense of humor where as in your case....well.....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 6 @ 5:44 PM ET
That's what I'm hearing. Theodore doesn't want to go there because of him. This is stupid because if this deal doesn't happen, you now have an angry Theodore manning your net during the season.
- Panthers88



This is going to get tricky, either Melanson will have to be fired or he and Theodore are going to have to work this out.


Why not just hire a different goalie coach for Theodore and let Melanson work with Schneider exclusively?

I agree that this would be a stupid reason for this deal not to happen.
Mattjd123
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.01.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:45 PM ET
I could actually see that as happening. Reason being, Kulikov has been super injury prone. That's the most fair offer I've seen so far. Plus, we have some great D prospects coming up and signed Ellerby to a one way offer today, giving us 8 blue liners on a one way deal. Something has got to give.
- Panthers88


Hamhuis Bieksa

Edler Garrison

Tanev Ballard

Alberts

Kulikov

Jovo


Somethings gotta give, then
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 6 @ 5:48 PM ET
This is going to get tricky, either Melanson will have to be fired or he and Theodore are going to have to work this out.

Why not just hire a different goalie coach for Theodore and let Melanson work with Schneider exclusively?

I agree that this would be a stupid reason for this deal not to happen.

- Nucker101


Do you think Theodore is worth it? I don't know if I want him on this team. Don't like his judgement.

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