Another retarded hater I see. Maybe before you post you should learn about the leafs team and assets

We have a 1st rounder in 2013
Kadri
Lupal
Kessel
Gardiner
Riely
Jvr
Colbourne

Need I mention more?
Try sticking to topics that involve your team if your so clueless to the other teams
- ALeafsFan4Ever

Ya, what is with the haters? That is just a stupid comment. Almost any team has the assests to get Getzlaf. You just need to include 1st round picks and some players and these deals can happen.

The leafs in fact have tons of young up-and-coming talent. People who say otherwise are just being stupid...

How about:

Kessel, Colbourne and a 1st next year for Getzlaf? I dont know if that would do it, but you have to consider that Getzlaf is soon a UFA and they could lose him for nothing.

Then we sign Semin to help replace Kessel's Goals?

Thoughts?

HOWEVER, we all know they will not be trading Getzlaf... it doesn't make sense. Especially after Ryan has asked to be traded...

I think it's a little ridiculous to suggest Ottawa doesn't have the assets to make a trade for Ryan. They absolutely do. Whether they would be willing to part with them or not is another story. Pieces like Lehner, Bishop, 1st Rounder, Zibanejad, Noesen, Cowen, Turris, Michalek, Greening etc. Lots of young quality talent in Ottawa. Just depends what Anaheims goal is. If they don't think they'll be able to keep Getzlaf and Perry when they hit UFA than what they want back changes dramatically. Right now I'd expect they'd want a good roster player, a top prospect, and a pick.

So something like:
Michalek + Greening + Bishop
or
Zibanejad + Lehner + 1st

Ottawa can make both types of deals. Top prospects or players that can play right now. Provided they want to actually pay that much. Frankly I'd rather just see us keep Zibanejad and Michalek unless we've really soured on Z for some reason I don't know.

How about:

Kessel, Colbourne and a 1st next year for Getzlaf? I dont know if that would do it, but you have to consider that Getzlaf is soon a UFA and they could lose him for nothing.

Then we sign Semin to help replace Kessel's Goals?

Thoughts?

HOWEVER, we all know they will not be trading Getzlaf... it doesn't make sense. Especially after Ryan has asked to be traded...
- Hockey_Reverend

That's alot to give up for a player with one year one his contract isn't it?

And I would't trade Kessel straight up for Getzlaf as of right now let alone throw in Colborne and our potential top ten pick next season. Lay off the drugs!

I think it's a little ridiculous to suggest Ottawa doesn't have the assets to make a trade for Ryan. They absolutely do. Whether they would be willing to part with them or not is another story. Pieces like Lehner, Bishop, 1st Rounder, Zibanejad, Noesen, Cowen, Turris, Michalek, Greening etc. Lots of young quality talent in Ottawa. Just depends what Anaheims goal is. If they don't think they'll be able to keep Getzlaf and Perry when they hit UFA than what they want back changes dramatically. Right now I'd expect they'd want a good roster player, a top prospect, and a pick.

So something like:
Michalek + Greening + Bishop
or
Zibanejad + Lehner + 1st

Ottawa can make both types of deals. Top prospects or players that can play right now. Provided they want to actually pay that much. Frankly I'd rather just see us keep Zibanejad and Michalek unless we've really soured on Z for some reason I don't know.
- TheOneLiner

I totally agree, most teams have the assests to make these trades. I mean, you could trade your first rd pick or the next 4 years or whatever, but any team could do this....

That's alot to give up for a player with one year one his contract isn't it?

And I would't trade Kessel straight up for Getzlaf as of right now let alone throw in Colborne and our potential top ten pick next season. Lay off the drugs!
- steve362

It is a lot, but Getzlaf is a beast and i would do whatever it takes to get him if he is available...

It is a lot, but Getzlaf is a beast and i would do whatever it takes to get him if he is available...
- Hockey_Reverend

Well go play NHL 13 then. For Kessel, Colborne and a 1st I would expect Getzlaf and Ryan

Well go play NHL 13 then. For Kessel, Colborne and a 1st I would expect Getzlaf and Ryan
- steve362

Toronto fans always want to trade everything they got for anyone availible

Well go play NHL 13 then. For Kessel, Colborne and a 1st I would expect Getzlaf and Ryan
- steve362

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Serious? Getzlaf is on another planet from Kessel. He hits, fights, is big, a center, is young, has a CUP, and can put up point a game numbers... Kessel is great, but is a one trick pony and cant fight through hard games. Colbourne is a prospect, and a first is a first...

Burke would do that trade in a heart beat...

And what is NHL 13? I am 32 and don't play games...
Ugh

Toronto fans always want to trade everything they got for anyone availible
- rubberduckies

2 players and a pick for a soon to be UFA is everything we got?

How about:

Kessel, Colbourne and a 1st next year for Getzlaf? I dont know if that would do it, but you have to consider that Getzlaf is soon a UFA and they could lose him for nothing.

Then we sign Semin to help replace Kessel's Goals?

Thoughts?

HOWEVER, we all know they will not be trading Getzlaf... it doesn't make sense. Especially after Ryan has asked to be traded...
- Hockey_Reverend

Kessel is the biggest reason we need Getzlaf. Why would we trade the winger for the playmaker we need to play with him?

Kessel is the biggest reason we need Getzlaf. Why would we trade the winger for the playmaker we need to play with him?
- Bozzy

I thought about that, but I would still do that trade because Getzlaf is a true fanchise player. You could simply go and sign Semin to score goals... I just feel a Center is more valuable...

But none of this will happen anyway, so who cares...

We all know the real trade that will happen is Lu to TO or Florida/Tampa. It is inevitable...

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Serious? Getzlaf is on another planet from Kessel. He hits, fights, is big, a center, is young, has a CUP, and can put up point a game numbers... Kessel is great, but is a one trick pony and cant fight through hard games. Colbourne is a prospect, and a first is a first...

Burke would do that trade in a heart beat...

And what is NHL 13? I am 32 and don't play games...
Ugh
- Hockey_Reverend

In the last 3 years Kessel has improved both his goals and points. During the same time Getzlaf has had 2 seasons where he has fought injuries, and last season looked completely different, and lost on the ice. Also last season Kessel showed that if he has someone that can finish, he knows how dish the puck, not just finish.

Burke is not trading Kessel, Colborne and a 1st for Getzlaf. The current Getzlaf isn't worth that.

I think Anaheim would want Karlsson going to the DUCKS in the deal.

I just love how some Leaf fans think Kadri is this big stud of a prospect that has failed to impress anyone but Anaheim will want your unproven junk for a stud winger.....Even I realize the Sabres would have to give up Ennis Grigorenko and another 1st or more to get it done

Another retarded hater I see. Maybe before you post you should learn about the leafs team and assets

We have a 1st rounder in 2013
Kadri
Lupal
Kessel
Gardiner
Riely
Jvr
Colbourne

Need I mention more?
Try sticking to topics that involve your team if your so clueless to the other teams
- ALeafsFan4Ever

Just to note:

We have a 1st rounder in 2013 [yes, this is a good asset)
Kadri [meh, not much value as he has shown very little promise when on the big club]
Lupal [questions about health, consistency, what contract he'll command]
Kessel [Don't see the leafs wanting to deal him]
Gardiner [not on the block either]
Riely [not on the block]
Jvr [doubtful he's traded given they just got him]
Colbourne [see Kadri, but slightly higher as he has some size]


Basically, what yu really have is the 2013 1st rounder. All the others listed are either not being traded, or at best, average commodities at this point. The return for Nash/Ryan/etc will be ALL top-flight players. Think players you wouldn't want to trade if they were on your team, that's what it'll take...

Kessel has...so he is a franchise winger agree?
- Allstarzz

Absolutely Kessel is. When Kessel was traded I wondered if he was a product of Savard's playmaking but it is not the case obviously.

It depends on where the Ducks feel they are. If they are dealing both Ryan and Getzlaf in separate deals (and considering they already dealt off Visnovsky) it tells me they are thinking of doing a total rehaul of their team. That plays into what the Sens can offer. Do the Ducks need a young potential 1a goalie? We have 2 potential young ones that were part of the supposed Nash deal. Do they want a A level prospect? Zibanejad was also part of that deal. Maybe add in Zach Smith and potentially another one of our forward prospects, and I'm pretty sure you just made an acceptable offer of youth for the disgruntled forward.
- Lohaus

Visnovsky is rumored of retiring and his injury prone year made him expendable.
That doesnt signal rebuilding just because they dumped a contract that may retire.

Kane & enstrom for Ryan or Getzlaf
- DowJones

That's a decent offer, I would think there would have to be a pick going to WPG as well if Getzlaf signs past this year.

Ryan Getzlaf and a 2nd for Mikko Koivu and a 1st, Bobby Ryan for Milan Lucic straight up
- sudburyboy

I would have said yes to trading Lucic before this year where the NE division has been stocking up on grit. I'd be more inclined to trade Krejci+ and move Seguin to center and let him strugale there for a year.

I don't really see Anaheim competing for the cup without bringing in some major talent through free agency...
And as we just saw with Parise & Suter, that's really gonna cost A LOT...

With Perry & Getzlaf hitting UFA soon,
Maybe the best thing for the Ducks to do is trade all 3...
That would probably land them at least a total of 6 top prospects, not to mention they'd have a lottery pick in next years draft

No one ever wants to hear "rebuild" but if they are going to do it,
They should really go "all in" and put together a group of young talent like the islanders and oilers have done

That actually seems like the best way to build a team now-a-days

Kessel - Burke's baby
Grabovski - terrible contract, overrated
Rielly - bust
- keatondixon

haha, oh that's right...he's a Leaf now. Bust it is.

I just love how some Leaf fans think Kadri is this big stud of a prospect that has failed to impress anyone but Anaheim will want your unproven junk for a stud winger.....Even I realize the Sabres would have to give up Ennis Grigorenko and another 1st or more to get it done
- sabresnumberonefan

I doubt they'd want Grigs as a center-piece. If they were high on him, they would have just drafted him.

Agree that: Sens don't have the pieces to get Ryan; and Getzlaf, while coming off a tough season (with significant injuries), is unlikely to be moved by Anaheim unless a real blockbuster package with established young players is offered....and I don't see any team (especially the Leafs) able and/or willing to do that.....Think Getzlaf will get this year to right the ship, or else he'll be gone.....