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leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:11 AM ET
remember when we called him Fedostinko...you guys have short memories
- vejim


I just remember him - always - lighting us up when he was on other teams.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 6 @ 11:15 AM ET
Weber is getting overrated. I would offer no more than Read, Gus, and a 3rd round pick.
- Daman




I think if the Flyers throw Shelley in, that would seal the deal!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:15 AM ET
I just remember him - always - lighting us up when he was on other teams.
- leon neon

all ex flyers do that
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:17 AM ET
I also posted this time last yr that homer needed to get out in front of this when they had more assets to trade.
- isaiah520



Get out in front of what?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:19 AM ET
If the Flyers do stand pat, Enstrom should become a prime trade target around deadline time.

The ideal replacement for Kimmo.

- LordStanley88



I see Enstrom as more of a replacement for Carle, then Timonen. I don't see Enstrom as a #1 defenseman like Timonen was in his prime here.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:19 AM ET
No, it wouldn't because guys like Jake, Meszy, etc. would be going the other way.
- LordStanley88


Apparently were talking two different things here.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:21 AM ET
weber will be traded and if we can sign doan we would have to give up either schenn,courterir +read/jake + 1 or 2 dman and 2 first picks easy.

2 young forwards, 2 young dmen and 2 picks
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:21 AM ET
If the Flyers do stand pat, Enstrom should become a prime trade target around deadline time.

The ideal replacement for Kimmo.

- LordStanley88


Agreed.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
Get out in front of what?
- MJL

the changing landscape of the flyers d given the set of circumstances at that time
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
I love Weber and would love him here but what it would take to get him in a trade is just too rich for me. I just think it would create too many holes elsewhere.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
Apparently were talking two different things here.
- MJL


Because you're completely misreading the core of my post.

Financials aside, which I don't think will be an issue anyways, would you move Read and Jake in a deal for Weber right now given the fact that we've lost forward depth already this summer?
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
I see Enstrom as more of a replacement for Carle, then Timonen. I don't see Enstrom as a #1 defenseman like Timonen was in his prime here.
- MJL


I don't. Enstrom would instantly QB the PP on the 1st unit and is fully capable of scoring 50-60 points. Defensively, he still needs to improve, but his positioning has gotten better.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:25 AM ET
I see Enstrom as more of a replacement for Carle, then Timonen. I don't see Enstrom as a #1 defenseman like Timonen was in his prime here.
- MJL


I think that guy - what's his name??? Oh, yeah Suter. Yeah, he'd make a great replacement for Timonen....
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:25 AM ET
weber will be traded and if we can sign doan we would have to give up either schenn,courterir +read/jake + 1 or 2 dman and 2 first picks easy.

2 young forwards, 2 young dmen and 2 picks

- mydoglicks



I just wouldn't do it. Honestly, they've had Weber and Suter there for the last so many years with a stellar D and goaltending but average scoring and have not gotten far. Deleting as much as what it will take and adding Weber just puts us in the same position. I know they don't have a Giroux like the Flyers but still, It just creates so many holes and the Flyers don't exactly have grade A prospect waiting in the wings. the grade A prospects are already on the team

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:26 AM ET
weber will be traded and if we can sign doan we would have to give up either schenn,courterir +read/jake + 1 or 2 dman and 2 first picks easy.

2 young forwards, 2 young dmen and 2 picks

- mydoglicks

not going to happen
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:28 AM ET
weber will be traded and if we can sign doan we would have to give up either schenn,courterir +read/jake + 1 or 2 dman and 2 first picks easy.

2 young forwards, 2 young dmen and 2 picks

- mydoglicks


Not worth it... to much. (not that I'd do this deal...) But, it would probably be less damaging to the overall team - if it was Giroux for Weber straight up.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 6 @ 11:29 AM ET
Not worth it... to much. (not that I'd do this deal...) But, it would probably be less damaging to the overall team - if it was Giroux for Weber straight up.
- leon neon


Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:30 AM ET
Versus having a legitimate serious conversation?
- MJL


Perhaps time and place for both.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:34 AM ET
Agreed. I think he's a lifer with Phoenix. Wouldn't mind at all seeing him in o&b though.



Not a fan of Semin. Let NJ have him.

- Scoob

I think we need more size like Jagr had than finesse, but there
isn't much quality out there in FA land. So if Doan is out it looks like a
trade is the only option which gets into addition by subtraction. I think
Homer is full of it when he says he's done shopping.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:35 AM ET
weber will be traded and if we can sign doan we would have to give up either schenn,courterir +read/jake + 1 or 2 dman and 2 first picks easy.

2 young forwards, 2 young dmen and 2 picks

- mydoglicks


(frank) no last time the flyers did something THIS stupid it brought us lindros and quebec went on to win the cup as the AVS. I say no (frank)ing way let someone else blow up there org for one guy. knowing our luck he gets a second conky and is out for the rest of his thirteen year contract...too much risk for one guy.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 6 @ 11:39 AM ET
(frank) no last time the flyers did something THIS stupid it brought us lindros and quebec went on to win the cup as the AVS. I say no (frank)ing way let someone else blow up there org for one guy. knowing our luck he gets a second conky and is out for the rest of his thirteen year contract...too much risk for one guy.
- Philly1980


I wouldn't call the Lindros deal "stupid". Injuries derailed it sure, but the Flyers were a force in the mid-90's as a sole result of the trade.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:41 AM ET
I wouldn't call the Lindros deal "stupid". Injuries derailed it sure, but the Flyers were a force in the mid-90's as a sole result of the trade.
- LordStanley88


in hindsight it was stupid AVS won cup we got Lindros highlight reels to look at. When lindros was playing the team was good...when he was out forget about it...
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:45 AM ET
in hindsight it was stupid AVS won cup we got Lindros highlight reels to look at. When lindros was playing the team was good...when he was out forget about it...
- Philly1980


If I recall the Avs also got some other pieces along the way. Little known players like Roy and Bourque.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:46 AM ET
If Weber does decide to leave, do you think Polie trades him before the season starts, or at the deadline?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:48 AM ET
If I recall the Avs also got some other pieces along the way. Little known players like Roy and Bourque.
- Daman


Roy was traded for a package that included Jocelyn Thibault as the center piece. Which was the flyers first rd pick that they sent to AVS (quebec) for lindros..
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