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SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:15 PM ET
Not the same situation though. Bobby Ryan is 25 and Getz and Perry just turned 27. Iginla is 35 and Kiprusoff is 36. The three Ducks are just entering their primes, not exiting them like Iginla and Kiprusoff.
- adamz86


I know its not the same situation. But lets be honest, guys are jumping ship. That sucks, if there was any other team in the league I'd root for it would be the ducks. It's time to lock Perry up (if they even can) and start rebuilding
kovalchukTML
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where is this truculence Burke
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:16 PM ET
I have watched a few North Dakota games I am really looking forward for him replacing Rob Blake.

The kid reminds me of Suter actually (but thats me being biased again)
But Ill take a Seabrook comparison any day.

- LA_Kings6720

Do you think Hickey will ever have a legitimate NHL career?
sjsharks92
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:16 PM ET
Pavelski plays between Couture and Clowe what sort of failed attempt at an argument is this........
- Alexzanki

Oh and Pavelski is younger. By a month. Not a big deal, but it's better than being older than him. Frankly I find Nash to be one of the most overrated players in the game.
j_rob83
San Jose Sharks
Location: hamilton, ON
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 5 @ 8:18 PM ET
leafs might be talking about shane Doan?
kovalchukTML
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where is this truculence Burke
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:19 PM ET
Oh and Pavelski is younger. By a month. Not a big deal, but it's better than being older than him. Frankly I find Nash to be one of the most overrated players in the game.
- sjsharks92

He reminds me of Carter, can't excel unless he has a star on his side, Nash is grossly overpaid and I don't think he's more then a solid 80 pt player at his best
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:20 PM ET
leafs might be talking about shane Doan?
- j_rob83


They can talk about Shane Doan all they want but after playing for one franchise his entire career I'd make a little wager he wants to go to a contender..
adamz86
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 06.29.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:21 PM ET
I meant when Calgary went to the finals they were never the same after shipping out key players whereas the Ducks never maintain their play after the cup win for the same reasons
- kovalchukTML



I would say the Ducks haven't been the same because they have lacked secondary scoring behind the RPG line. Burke traded Andy McDonald after they won and he and Teemu had unbelievable chemistry.

Next season, Murray decided to deal Chris Kunitz for Ryan Whitney, which was a bust. They have had Teemu but have not provided him with good players on his line since they won the Cup.

The Ducks have been a one-line team since that Cup win. As the RPG line went, so went the team. If they don't play great in a playoff series, the team had no chance.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:22 PM ET
I know its not the same situation. But lets be honest, guys are jumping ship. That sucks, if there was any other team in the league I'd root for it would be the ducks. It's time to lock Perry up (if they even can) and start rebuilding
- SameOld


Ryan is locked up.....for three more years. But he's getting traded.
kovalchukTML
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where is this truculence Burke
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:23 PM ET
What Eklund is talking about is actually the Leafs are moving JVR to center during camp, it should be interesting considering he's only taken 8 Faceoffs in his career
Fenyes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jul 5 @ 8:24 PM ET
What Eklund is talking about is actually the Leafs are moving JVR to center during camp, it should be interesting considering he's only taken 8 in his career
- kovalchukTML

He played center in collage
LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:24 PM ET
Do you think Hickey will ever have a legitimate NHL career?
- kovalchukTML

I would love to say yes but not for the Kings but I can see someone playing him as maybe a 4-5-6 defender.
I dont see why a team wouldnt take a chance with him if they needed the defense.

4 years in the AHL some players need time ESPECIALLY defenseman. Just a bad choice for the Kings when they took him 4th
j_rob83
San Jose Sharks
Location: hamilton, ON
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 5 @ 8:24 PM ET
They can talk about Shane Doan all they want but after playing for one franchise his entire career I'd make a little wager he wants to go to a contender..
- SameOld

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Bodhisattva
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kitchener, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jul 5 @ 8:25 PM ET
If somebody pays 4 big assets for Nash, they will regret it.

Hello, career 61pt avg player with a $7.8M cap hit for the next 6 years!
Bodhisattva
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kitchener, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jul 5 @ 8:25 PM ET
He played center in collage
- Fenyes


JVR won't be playing centre.
kovalchukTML
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where is this truculence Burke
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:26 PM ET
If somebody pays 4 big assets for Nash, they will regret it.

Hello, career 61pt avg player with a $7.8M cap hit for the next 6 years!

- Ballsackian

To be fair he's only played with poopt in Columbus
Fenyes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jul 5 @ 8:26 PM ET
JVR won't be playing centre.
- Ballsackian

I agree but I'm just saying he has played it before
kovalchukTML
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where is this truculence Burke
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:27 PM ET
He played center in collage
- Fenyes

Yea that's why there trying him there, he's only taken 8 faceoff in his NHL career
adamz86
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 06.29.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:27 PM ET
I know its not the same situation. But lets be honest, guys are jumping ship. That sucks, if there was any other team in the league I'd root for it would be the ducks. It's time to lock Perry up (if they even can) and start rebuilding
- SameOld


I agree. The team is a trainwreck. They were the fifth worst team this past year. My prediction is that they will be fighting for the #1 pick next year assuming that Bobby Ryan is gone.

I don't know what Getz and Perry want to do next offseason, but after seeing Parise sign for $98M, I am sure hitting free agency sounds better by the day, especially for a 50 goal scorer like Perry.
Ducks2012
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 5 @ 8:27 PM ET
I know its not the same situation. But lets be honest, guys are jumping ship. That sucks, if there was any other team in the league I'd root for it would be the ducks. It's time to lock Perry up (if they even can) and start rebuilding
- SameOld


They dont need to rebuild, far from it. They have a stocked farm system with players ready to make the team such as Palmieri, Etem, Vatanen, Holland, Smith-pelley. Their problem last year was with Hiller not being the same, defensive play, 2nd line center consistency and offensive production from Perry/Getzlaf/Ryan underperformed. It didnt help them that Visnovsky got hurt.
Getting a 2ndline center for Ryan helps them now and the future, replacement for Ryan would be filled by Etem/Palmieri.

If they can get some production from Etem/Palmieri/Smith-Pelley and the new defense holds up + Fowler/Sbsia continue to improve they should be closer to where they were in 2010-11 season. Years later they have guys like Lindholm, Friberg, Rakell making the team.
kovalchukTML
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where is this truculence Burke
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:27 PM ET
To be fair he's only played with shiit in Columbus
- kovalchukTML

Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 5 @ 8:28 PM ET
JVR won't be playing centre.
- Ballsackian


I agree. That's not why Burke got him. Burke got him to score goals, be a presence in front of the net and use his size to win puck battles along the boards. Not to win face-offs and be the defensive responsibility on his line.
Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 5 @ 8:29 PM ET
I think Semin and fellow Russian Kovalchuk would be awesome.

Was tough losing Parise but seeing him move on to his home team and considering JP Parise was a famous North Star who still lives in Minnesota makes it a meaningful move.
tangocash001
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 08.11.2009

Jul 5 @ 8:31 PM ET
never really got how this sources thing works. someone tells EK they are looking at a centre with size but i can't tell you who. would a normal conversation not go " hey i hear burke is going to take a run at X". just seems to open ended to be a real conversation. i will except my ban now.
Bodhisattva
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kitchener, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jul 5 @ 8:32 PM ET
To be fair he's only played with poopt in Columbus
- kovalchukTML


I understand, but whatever team grabs him his making a huge bet that he'll miraculously produce more outside of Columbus. His average is over 9 years, so it's not like a small sample...

Anyways...just my opinion.
kovalchukTML
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where is this truculence Burke
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:32 PM ET
I agree. That's not why Burke got him. Burke got him to score goals, be a presence in front of the net and use his size to win puck battles along the boards. Not to win face-offs and be the defensive responsibility on his line.
- Phenom

http://hfboards.hockeysfu...p?p=52181325#post52181325. Carlyle plans on trying JVR at C during training camp, Jonas siegel also retweeted it
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