He is the classic late bloomer. We didn't think much of him either until the last couple of years. His callup is what changed the makeup of our entire season. He (and Ennis) were easily the best players over the last 15 games. He tore it up in the minors and then carried up to the big club.
- Slump Buster

I agree he was the spark that started the fire, but I just can see it lasting. I think he'll end up being a guy like Rupp or Brown, guys who won't ever win scoring titles but will be the difference makers between presidents trophies and Stanley Cups.. Character goes a long way on teams and he'll be a fan hero for his entire career. But don't kid yourself on what he'll bring offensively to the team

He is the classic late bloomer. We didn't think much of him either until the last couple of years. His callup is what changed the makeup of our entire season. He (and Ennis) were easily the best players over the last 15 games. He tore it up in the minors and then carried up to the big club.
- Slump Buster

I agree he was the spark that started the fire, but I just can see it lasting. I think he'll end up being a guy like Rupp or Brown, guys who won't ever win scoring titles but will be the difference makers between presidents trophies and Stanley Cups.. Character goes a long way on teams and he'll be a fan hero for his entire career. But don't kid yourself on what he'll bring offensively to the team

Never happen.

Ryan states he wants to play for Philly, which he will in 3 years as an ufa. Steep market price Ducks are asking for a 3 year rental, and as such, an asset that is losing value every day if he indeed is on the trade market.

Philly will offer picks and non core assets, but nothing substantial the other way - if Ducks don't budge, just wait till he hits ufa in 3.
- LW2530

Dude, 3 years is a loooong time. Bob Murray could be gone in 3 years.

The other thing that nobody is taking into account is that the Samuelis' LOVE Bobby and Murray knows this so there had better be something substantial coming back or he won't be traded.

You were there? inside?
- PinkSock

Come on StinkSac, you can do better than that, at least be witty.

Never happen.

Ryan states he wants to play for Philly, which he will in 3 years as an ufa. Steep market price Ducks are asking for a 3 year rental, and as such, an asset that is losing value every day if he indeed is on the trade market.

Philly will offer picks and non core assets, but nothing substantial the other way - if Ducks don't budge, just wait till he hits ufa in 3.
- LW2530

Just like Carle right.

I agree he was the spark that started the fire, but I just can see it lasting. I think he'll end up being a guy like Rupp or Brown, guys who won't ever win scoring titles but will be the difference makers between presidents trophies and Stanley Cups.. Character goes a long way on teams and he'll be a fan hero for his entire career. But don't kid yourself on what he'll bring offensively to the team
- sudburyboy

I think you had to see it to understand it. When I saw him play in juniors I thought that he had the hands of a 3rd line grinder. When I saw him 2 years later he was a completely different player. The Sabres admitted that he made Kassian expendable as he had passed Kassian on the depth chart.

The emergence of Foligno (and Ennis) also brought Stafford out of a year-long slump. I can't see them being broken up without seeing what their full potential is. I may be in the minority but I would think that Hodgson would involved in a trade for Ryan before Foligno.

Just like Carle right.
- rubberduckies

He sure saw the light

Dude, 3 years is a loooong time. Bob Murray could be gone in 3 years.

The other thing that nobody is taking into account is that the Samuelis' LOVE Bobby and Murray knows this so there had better be something substantial coming back or he won't be traded.
- duxcup07

I don't think he goes anywhere. But that doesn't change the facts on the ground.

He states he wants to be in Philly, so it's a 3 year rental for the GM who makes the deal. His trade value is at it's peak now.

I don't think he goes anywhere. But that doesn't change the facts on the ground.

He states he wants to be in Philly, so it's a 3 year rental for the GM who makes the deal. His trade value is at it's peak now.
- LW2530

he is 25 now ...maybe 4 years he is peaking

I think the ducks would have to add to get Duchense. What about O'reilly and Wilson?
- Bieksa#3

to be honest it might be harder to get o'reilly then duchene and it would cost alot to get duchene.

Hardly. I think Foligno is the odds-on favorite to be rookie of the yearand I think you saw Ennis take off when he was moved to center towards the end of the year. That line nearly carried them into the playoffs. I like Ryan a lot - that is just too much to pay. You'd have a point if I was offering up guys like Sekera or Luke Adam.
- Slump Buster

Come on StinkSac, you can do better than that, at least be witty.
- LamontSanford

it was an Honest question..Geesh take it easy Lame-ont Sadford





and - i farted in your general direction

Green,Johansson,Galiev and a 1st for Ryan and Lydman
- bondraovie

I actually like that deal. A LOT!!!! Boudreau would be happy to have Green back and to have him and Fowler on the #1 PP and Souray on the #2 PP... That would be really nice.

Never happen.

Ryan states he wants to play for Philly, which he will in 3 years as an ufa. Steep market price Ducks are asking for a 3 year rental, and as such, an asset that is losing value every day if he indeed is on the trade market.

Philly will offer picks and non core assets, but nothing substantial the other way - if Ducks don't budge, just wait till he hits ufa in 3.
- LW2530

I could see Voracek, Read, and a pick / prospect. That's 2 good rotor players. Read
Only has a year under his belt, but he was a 25 y/o rookie. Kid played great last year
And looked more comfortable than Coutourier earlier.

How about a trade with the Bruins that is built around David Krejci?

I do understand all of your points.
However, stranger things have happened lately in NHL.
You can not sit down and draw conclusions like these.
I am just saying, You never know!
- Sabresfan88

You never know but can you beat that deal if the Isles were to offer it?

1st round pick from the isles is like a 1st round pick from Edmonton or Columbus... Plus 2 bluechip guys?

How about a trade with the Bruins that is built around David Krejci?
- SandyMoger

I don't despise this idea, but I'd give it 3 weeks before we'd be complaining because Chris Kelly is centering our #1 line.

Don't think CJ trusts Seguin enough yet to let him anchor a line yet.

Skeptical of the statement that Souray will essentially replace Visnovsky.....Lubo was a puck carrier and distributor with an accurate shot, while Souray basically has a big shot with limited mobility; also question his "leadership" abilities, as every team in the league was fine to leave him in the minors year before last while they cried about finding defensive help....I assume the Ducks have specific plans on how they want to use him, but I can't see him in the top two defensive pairs or the top PP unit.....

Regarding Ryan, the best option to to make nice, make him happy and keep him; big wingers in their prime who can score consistently are not easy to find. However, if that doesn't work out, they need to be sure to get blue chip prospects and/or young players coming into their prime (i.e., Schenn, Couturier, Simmonds etc) in exchange. I see bloggers around the league assembling big packages of 2nd-3rd line forwards and 2nd-3rd pair defensemen they don't want or need to swap for Ryan - hopefully Murray realizes he has an incredibly valuable asset and should only trade him for a top value return....

agreed

Skeptical of the statement that Souray will essentially replace Visnovsky.....Lubo was a puck carrier and distributor with an accurate shot, while Souray basically has a big shot with limited mobility; also question his "leadership" abilities, as every team in the league was fine to leave him in the minors year before last while they cried about finding defensive help....I assume the Ducks have specific plans on how they want to use him, but I can't see him in the top two defensive pairs or the top PP unit.....

Regarding Ryan, the best option to to make nice, make him happy and keep him; big wingers in their prime who can score consistently are not easy to find. However, if that doesn't work out, they need to be sure to get blue chip prospects and/or young players coming into their prime (i.e., Schenn, Couturier, Simmonds etc) in exchange. I see bloggers around the league assembling big packages of 2nd-3rd line forwards and 2nd-3rd pair defensemen they don't want or need to swap for Ryan - hopefully Murray realizes he has an incredibly valuable asset and should only trade him for a top value return....
- jkaflagg

Unfortunately Murray has a player that wants out and that usually means...how does Flo from Progressive put it...DISCOUNT!

Rebuild.

it was an Honest question..Geesh take it easy Lame-ont Sadford





and - i farted in your general direction
- PinkSock

Still nothing, sorry your just unfunny.
**the lame-ont Sanford almost got there tho*

Ennis AND Foligno? It wouldn't surprise me if one or both of them put up 30 this year. I might to this for someone like Getzlaf (a stud center) but certainly not for a winger.
- Slump Buster

Not even in a dream is Foligno gonna put up 30goals.

Skeptical of the statement that Souray will essentially replace Visnovsky.....Lubo was a puck carrier and distributor with an accurate shot, while Souray basically has a big shot with limited mobility; also question his "leadership" abilities, as every team in the league was fine to leave him in the minors year before last while they cried about finding defensive help....I assume the Ducks have specific plans on how they want to use him, but I can't see him in the top two defensive pairs or the top PP unit.....

Regarding Ryan, the best option to to make nice, make him happy and keep him; big wingers in their prime who can score consistently are not easy to find. However, if that doesn't work out, they need to be sure to get blue chip prospects and/or young players coming into their prime (i.e., Schenn, Couturier, Simmonds etc) in exchange. I see bloggers around the league assembling big packages of 2nd-3rd line forwards and 2nd-3rd pair defensemen they don't want or need to swap for Ryan - hopefully Murray realizes he has an incredibly valuable asset and should only trade him for a top value return....
- jkaflagg

Couldn't agree more about Souray. They're treating it like they signed the Sheldon Souray of Montreal days when he was putting up close to 20 goals a year.

As far as Ryan goes, he shouldn't be traded but Ducks owner Henry Samueli is letting Bob Murray gut the franchise by the day. Philly won't part with Schenn or Couturier so the Ducks are not going to get full value for a guy who has scored 30+goals in each of his four full seasons in the league and is the only forward signed beyond next season.

I hope Murray's days are numbered but unfortunately they are not.

although Ryan wants to go to Philly i dont think thats happening because without JVR they really dont have the pieces because i seriously doubt they will part with Coutorier or either Schenn brother... Ryans most likely destinations i would say is New Jersey, the Islanders the Sabres or the Leafs.