kcNYI
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 08.19.2010
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To NYI: Bobby Ryan
To ANA: Kyle Okposo, Calvin deHaan, and the NYI 2013 1st round pick
Essentially ANA gets three 1st round picks. Okposo can play a good top-6 role, better served on the 2nd line. He is signed to a cap friendly $2.8m/year contract for the next 4 years. He's good for 25-30 goals and 25-30 assists per year.
Calvin deHaan was taken in the 2009 draft at #14. He is our blue chip defenceman prospect (we have Matt Donovan as well - one of the two will see time with the NYI this season). He is an offensive defenceman who will be able to man the point on your PP for years to come. He is great on his first pass as well as skating the puck up ice to create rushes.
2013 1st round pick - as history shows, it gauranteed to be a top-10 pick...could be a top 5. The 2013 draft is considered to be strong headed up by Nathan MacKinnon and Seth Jones. |
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l.stanley
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 04.25.2007
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The thing is that nash and howson are trying to get him out. According to ducks management ryan has not asked to be traded. I'm just saying that's the asking price. If you want to make a trade then you'll have to start increasing your offer. We don't have to trade ryan like columbus needs to get rid of nash. I'm one of the few ducks fans that loves the guy. I would be much happier seeing him remain with the team. It's going to take a stellar offer to get him. - selanne4pres
Honestly I'm not seeing much of a difference...
"I take things personally," Ryan said. "Anaheim to me has been a team over the past year that really has shown me nothing to prove that they want me here, unfortunately."
"I gotta be honest with you. At this point, I don't care. Move me … because it's just tough going to the rink every day knowing that if something goes wrong, you're going to be the guy moved."
Not outright saying "move me" but I also don't remember seeing Nash quoted as saying anything as strong as above.
My guess is is he won't be headed our way if he does get moved. |
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selanne4pres
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Tustin, CA Joined: 08.29.2010
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18 year old kid who plays like a man. Probably a better skater than Cam Fowler and he's bigger. What was most impressive was his best day was the second day scrimmage when you could tell fatigue had set in and he was still flying. I REALLY want to see how he plays in the pre-season. I think there's an outside chance he makes the team. - duxcup07
Sadly the only way he makes the team is if we trade someone in the top 6. Of course murray being the terrible gm that he is signed souray to a terrible contract. |
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selanne4pres
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Tustin, CA Joined: 08.29.2010
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Honestly I'm not seeing much of a difference...
"I take things personally," Ryan said. "Anaheim to me has been a team over the past year that really has shown me nothing to prove that they want me here, unfortunately."
"I gotta be honest with you. At this point, I don't care. Move me … because it's just tough going to the rink every day knowing that if something goes wrong, you're going to be the guy moved."
Not outright saying "move me" but I also don't remember seeing Nash quoted as saying anything as strong as above.
My guess is is he won't be headed our way if he does get moved. - l.stanley
To me all I see is that the management sucks. I'm really happy to see him criticize the gm because no one else will admit how terrible he is. I think if the ducks can get a solid gm that values ryan as a necessary asset will keep him happy in anaheim. |
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l.stanley
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 04.25.2007
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I wouldn't fault Ryan's play on this...I think at the end of the day, Ryan just happened to call Murray's bluff. I think Murray was tossing his name around to test the waters to see if any GM would be desperate enough to offer something retarded... Believe me, if he is traded, he will be missed. Any team that picks him up will absolutely love his play, and Anaheim will rue the day they left it up to Murray to blow apart the stanely cup team that Brian Burke built - sudburyboy
I could see that being the case. It never made sense to me why he'd be singled out with these rumors unless something was happening behind the scenes that we weren't privy to. I keep hearing his name and ask myself, where's the catch? |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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B RYAN PLUS SECOND FROM VISHNOVSKI FOR YANDLE AND GORMLEY - rubberduckies
As u can see I have defended Ryan's value quite a few times on this blog. But this is a joke right? Not a chance in hell phx would do this. |
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Dan Petriw
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 12.03.2006
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OKOPOSO NIEDERETTIER 2013 1 & 3 PICK - rubberduckies
i'd do that without the 3rd |
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sudburyboy
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Sudbury, ON Joined: 08.01.2010
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Hardly. I think Foligno is the odds-on favorite to be rookie of the year and I think you saw Ennis take off when he was moved to center towards the end of the year. That line nearly carried them into the playoffs. I like Ryan a lot - that is just too much to pay. You'd have a point if I was offering up guys like Sekera or Luke Adam. - Slump Buster
Easy there big fella...Believe me, before he was a Saber, Foligno was captain Sudbury Wolf and we loved him more than almost anyone that played for Sudbury in the last decade.....but I would bet my d*ck he would never in million years win rookie of the year. It was a nice run at the end of the year, but he's not gonna score more than 15 goals once Ennis moves up to the second line and he's stuck on 3rd or 4th as a checker |
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BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Leaf Nation, ON Joined: 06.30.2010
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To NYI: Bobby Ryan
To ANA: Kyle Okposo, Calvin deHaan, and the NYI 2013 1st round pick
Essentially ANA gets three 1st round picks. Okposo can play a good top-6 role, better served on the 2nd line. He is signed to a cap friendly $2.8m/year contract for the next 4 years. He's good for 25-30 goals and 25-30 assists per year.
Calvin deHaan was taken in the 2009 draft at #14. He is our blue chip defenceman prospect (we have Matt Donovan as well - one of the two will see time with the NYI this season). He is an offensive defenceman who will be able to man the point on your PP for years to come. He is great on his first pass as well as skating the puck up ice to create rushes.
2013 1st round pick - as history shows, it gauranteed to be a top-10 pick...could be a top 5. The 2013 draft is considered to be strong headed up by Nathan MacKinnon and Seth Jones. - kcNYI
This is a fantastic offer for Ryan...
Imagine Ryan playing beside JT? Dirty... |
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BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Leaf Nation, ON Joined: 06.30.2010
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He does this every year. He always signs by early august so don't worry too much.
I really don't get any of these bobby ryan trade proposals. If the ducks are asking for couts/schenn, reid and a pick for ryan why would they do anything less from another team? Yah I'm referring to you sabres fans.. - selanne4pres
Ok nice...just the blogger said you guys were losing Selanne this year... |
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Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 08.01.2011
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That wasn't much either PinkSac. - LamontSanford
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sudburyboy
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Location: Sudbury, ON Joined: 08.01.2010
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To NYI: Bobby Ryan
To ANA: Kyle Okposo, Calvin deHaan, and the NYI 2013 1st round pick
Essentially ANA gets three 1st round picks. Okposo can play a good top-6 role, better served on the 2nd line. He is signed to a cap friendly $2.8m/year contract for the next 4 years. He's good for 25-30 goals and 25-30 assists per year.
Calvin deHaan was taken in the 2009 draft at #14. He is our blue chip defenceman prospect (we have Matt Donovan as well - one of the two will see time with the NYI this season). He is an offensive defenceman who will be able to man the point on your PP for years to come. He is great on his first pass as well as skating the puck up ice to create rushes.
2013 1st round pick - as history shows, it gauranteed to be a top-10 pick...could be a top 5. The 2013 draft is considered to be strong headed up by Nathan MacKinnon and Seth Jones. - kcNYI
well played dude...this would be a classic win/win i think
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Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 08.01.2011
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Honestly I'm not seeing much of a difference...
"I take things personally," Ryan said. "Anaheim to me has been a team over the past year that really has shown me nothing to prove that they want me here, unfortunately."
"I gotta be honest with you. At this point, I don't care. Move me … because it's just tough going to the rink every day knowing that if something goes wrong, you're going to be the guy moved."
Not outright saying "move me" but I also don't remember seeing Nash quoted as saying anything as strong as above.
My guess is is he won't be headed our way if he does get moved. - l.stanley
So, where in all this do we read that Ryan does not want to play in Buffalo?? |
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l.stanley
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 04.25.2007
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So, where in all this do we read that Ryan does not want to play in Buffalo?? - Sabresfan88
Not saying (or implying) anything about what Ryan wants.
If the rumor that the Ducks want a 2C center coming back then Buffalo is an unlikely (direct) trading partner. Regier basically said Ennis won't be moved - which I'll also infer that neither Foligno nor Stafford will be traded as I doubt he wants to touch that line.
When Roy got delt to Dallas I figured Ryan was not gonna happen as that's the 2C ceneter Darcy was going to move.
But of course the possibility might exist of a three way trade... |
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So, where in all this do we read that Ryan does not want to play in Buffalo?? - Sabresfan88
Its not that he doesnt want to play in Buffalo its that Anahiem would want Foligno, Hodgson and a 1st.
The NYI deal that was proposed here would be a home run! and you run away laughing at the Isles for trading that...
1st Isles are in the best division in hockey, Philly, Pitts, Rangers, Devils all made the playoffs and even though Devils lost Parise they still have Ilya and a lot of support pieces and with Henriques play in the playoffs they are still a good team for at least another year or two. Isles Defense isnt quite there and the scoring isnt good enough yet to cover for the defense.
so they are doomed for 5th in the division.. They are the Blue Jays of hockey!
So in Essence the Ducks are getting a top 5 pick in all likelyhood (not 1st overall but top 5) and they are getting Two Bluechip prospects and if you substituted Nino instead of DeHaan they have a brand new 2nd line that would look like
Nino - Etem - Okposo
That line lets the ducks blow up the team and trade Getzlaf and Perry just like the Flyers did last year.. |
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flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, NJ Joined: 10.04.2006
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If Philly has interest I think they could part with one of Schenn or Coutourier in a package for Bobby Ryan. Maybe something like Matt Reid, one of Schenn/Coutourier, and a 1st rounder? - ystoil
Holmgren better never do that. |
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Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 08.01.2011
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Its not that he doesnt want to play in Buffalo its that Anahiem would want Foligno, Hodgson and a 1st.
The NYI deal that was proposed here would be a home run! and you run away laughing at the Isles for trading that...
1st Isles are in the best division in hockey, Philly, Pitts, Rangers, Devils all made the playoffs and even though Devils lost Parise they still have Ilya and a lot of support pieces and with Henriques play in the playoffs they are still a good team for at least another year or two. Isles Defense isnt quite there and the scoring isnt good enough yet to cover for the defense.
so they are doomed for 5th in the division.. They are the Blue Jays of hockey!
So in Essence the Ducks are getting a top 5 pick in all likelyhood (not 1st overall but top 5) and they are getting Two Bluechip prospects and if you substituted Nino instead of DeHaan they have a brand new 2nd line that would look like
Nino - Etem - Okposo
That line lets the ducks blow up the team and trade Getzlaf and Perry just like the Flyers did last year.. - Sirfunkyton
I do understand all of your points.
However, stranger things have happened lately in NHL.
You can not sit down and draw conclusions like these.
I am just saying, You never know!
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Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 08.01.2011
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Not saying (or implying) anything about what Ryan wants.
If the rumor that the Ducks want a 2C center coming back then Buffalo is an unlikely (direct) trading partner. Regier basically said Ennis won't be moved - which I'll also infer that neither Foligno nor Stafford will be traded as I doubt he wants to touch that line.
When Roy got delt to Dallas I figured Ryan was not gonna happen as that's the 2C ceneter Darcy was going to move.
But of course the possibility might exist of a three way trade... - l.stanley
Other point that almost all of us are missing is that Bobby Ryan has requested a trade. not the other way around. |
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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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Easy there big fella...Believe me, before he was a Saber, Foligno was captain Sudbury Wolf and we loved him more than almost anyone that played for Sudbury in the last decade.....but I would bet my d*ck he would never in million years win rookie of the year. It was a nice run at the end of the year, but he's not gonna score more than 15 goals once Ennis moves up to the second line and he's stuck on 3rd or 4th as a checker - sudburyboy
He is the classic late bloomer. We didn't think much of him either until the last couple of years. His callup is what changed the makeup of our entire season. He (and Ennis) were easily the best players over the last 15 games. He tore it up in the minors and then carried up to the big club. |
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rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Huntington beach, CA Joined: 02.21.2008
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As u can see I have defended Ryan's value quite a few times on this blog. But this is a joke right? Not a chance in hell phx would do this. - Bieksa#3
Maybe throw in a prospect...you know whats a joke 98 million 13 years theres a bunch of players agents who think that their players are worth that now !! |
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sudburyboy
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Sudbury, ON Joined: 08.01.2010
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Maybe throw in a prospect...you know whats a joke 98 million 13 years theres a bunch of players agents who think that their players are worth that now !! - rubberduckies
The amount of money that is generated by the NHL from tickets to jerseys is retarded...of course the players who are the ones filling the seats and selling their names should be getting a piece of the pie....professional athletes are not over-paid when you think of the money they're bringing in for the bosses....If they had a cap at 1 million a year and Crosby jerseys alone brought in 10 million.....wouldn't you feel a little ripped off |
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l.stanley
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 04.25.2007
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Other point that almost all of us are missing is that Bobby Ryan has requested a trade. not the other way around. - Sabresfan88
Hmmmm that's not how it looks to me unless you're not believing the Ducks mgmt was behind the trade rumors during the season. Bobby Ryan didn't publicly say "move me" until around the time of this year's draft after getting tired of hearing his name as trade bait.
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LW2530
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Anyone have some change?, FL Joined: 09.12.2006
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Holmgren better never do that. - flyersfan51
Never happen.
Ryan states he wants to play for Philly, which he will in 3 years as an ufa. Steep market price Ducks are asking for a 3 year rental, and as such, an asset that is losing value every day if he indeed is on the trade market.
Philly will offer picks and non core assets, but nothing substantial the other way - if Ducks don't budge, just wait till he hits ufa in 3. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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Maybe throw in a prospect...you know whats a joke 98 million 13 years theres a bunch of players agents who think that their players are worth that now !! - rubberduckies
A highly doubt phx would do Handle for Ryan. To ask them to throw in an elite prospect is quite far fetched. If any wants both Yanle and Gormley the deal would look some like
to phx- Ryan, and Fowler
To anh- Handle, Gormley and 2nd rounder. Handle is a stud offensive d man. Hell look at the numbers he puts up playing with mostly 3rd and 4th line caliber players and a straight defensive approach |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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Other point that almost all of us are missing is that Bobby Ryan has requested a trade. not the other way around. - Sabresfan88
They r still not gonna give him away. Market dictates value. A guy Ryan's age with the numbers he has produced is gonna generate a lot of interest league wide. Dennis or Hodgson would have to b included in any deal along with an elite prospect or very good roster player |
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