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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 6 @ 7:28 AM ET
Whats the going rate for a 2nd line C these days?
- robin_steele264



4.5 mil for a UFA C that scored almost 15pts more.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 6 @ 7:31 AM ET
Whats the going rate for a 2nd line C these days?
- robin_steele264

Just don't ask Leafs fans about the going rate for a 1st line C - we have no frame of reference.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 6 @ 7:32 AM ET
4.5 mil for a UFA C that scored almost 15pts more.
- burn




Grabo got 5.5 for like 5 more points.

Connoly got 4.75 for nothing.


I wouldn't walk from 4 mill.



robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 6 @ 7:32 AM ET
Just don't ask Leafs fans about the going rate for a 1st line C - we have no frame of reference.
- Atomic Wedgie



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 6 @ 7:33 AM ET
Grabo got 5.5 for like 5 more points.

Connoly got 4.75 for nothing.


I wouldn't walk from 4 mill.

- robin_steele264



It was worth a shot.
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jul 6 @ 7:43 AM ET
Who's #4 C them?
- burn

I know Randy said McC is pencilled in at 3C, but I see him more as 4C with major PK time as well....either Bozak or Connolly at 3C....unless Connolly is traded and Bozak is 1C again....

Edit Connolly apparently crap at faceoffs so nix 3C
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 6 @ 7:49 AM ET
I know Randy said McC is pencilled in at 3C, but I see him more as 4C with major PK time as well....either Bozak or Connolly at 3C....unless Connolly is traded and Bozak is 1C again....

Edit Connolly apparently crap at faceoffs so nix 3C

- JIMI-JAMES



Carlyle said that he's going to give JVR a long look at center..... presumably #1 center. I don't think Bozak is a fit at #3. Something has to give.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 8:02 AM ET
Carlyle said that he's going to give JVR a long look at center..... presumably #1 center. I don't think Bozak is a fit at #3. Something has to give.
- burn


I think we had better temper our expectations for JVR at center: I'm all for experimenting but I wouldn't be surprised if Bozak takes over centering the top line; he's our best option right now.

JVR has 10 career NHL faceoffs to his name and hasn't played center at the pro level (I don't even think he played at the college level).

His Corsi is pretty decent and he did face tough competition (thanks to playing with Giroux, Jagr, Richards, etc.), but he still needs work defensively at the wing let alone center, so throwing him to the lions in the #1 hole doesn't seem like a great move to me. Who knows though, kid could be a natural at center (Sundin was drafted as a winger too).
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:06 AM ET
I think we had better temper our expectations for JVR at center: I'm all for experimenting but I wouldn't be surprised if Bozak takes over centering the top line; he's our best option right now.

JVR has 10 career NHL faceoffs to his name and hasn't played center at the pro level (I don't even think he played at the college level).

His Corsi is pretty decent and he did face tough competition (thanks to playing with Giroux, Jagr, Richards, etc.), but he still needs work defensively at the wing let alone center, so throwing him to the lions in the #1 hole doesn't seem like a great move to me. Who knows though, kid could be a natural at center (Sundin was drafted as a winger too).

- gravyface


Expect Leafs to trade for Dubinsky and give both of them a shot to be #1C, the other one going to 2nd line LW.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 8:19 AM ET
Expect Leafs to trade for Dubinsky and give both of them a shot to be #1C, the other one going to 2nd line LW.
- MaximusAurelius


I don't see Dubinsky as a #1 center; he's pretty much playing 3rd line duties this year. I want Stastny
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 6 @ 8:19 AM ET
I think we had better temper our expectations for JVR at center: I'm all for experimenting but I wouldn't be surprised if Bozak takes over centering the top line; he's our best option right now.

JVR has 10 career NHL faceoffs to his name and hasn't played center at the pro level (I don't even think he played at the college level).

His Corsi is pretty decent and he did face tough competition (thanks to playing with Giroux, Jagr, Richards, etc.), but he still needs work defensively at the wing let alone center, so throwing him to the lions in the #1 hole doesn't seem like a great move to me. Who knows though, kid could be a natural at center (Sundin was drafted as a winger too).

- gravyface

I think JVR was drafted as a centre (feel free to correct me if I am wrong).
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 8:21 AM ET
I think JVR was drafted as a centre (feel free to correct me if I am wrong).
- Atomic Wedgie


Nope winger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...NHL_Entry_Draft#Round_one
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 6 @ 8:26 AM ET
Nope winger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...NHL_Entry_Draft#Round_one

- gravyface

Stop with facts everybody is a centre
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 6 @ 8:32 AM ET
Nope winger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...NHL_Entry_Draft#Round_one

- gravyface

I'd admit I was wrong, but this is Hockeybuzz.
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jul 6 @ 8:34 AM ET
So now that EK has told us that we are goingt o get Getzlaf...........

To ANH: Connolly, KAdri, Franson, 2014 1st rnd pk

To Tor: Getzlaf
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 8:35 AM ET
So now that EK has told us that we are goingt o get Getzlaf...........

To ANH: Connolly, KAdri, Farnson, 2014 1st rnd pk

To Tor: Getzlaf

- billyberg10




Getzlaf and Perry are going to sign a Bosom Buddies deal with TO next UFA.
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 6 @ 8:37 AM ET
Expect Leafs to trade for Dubinsky and give both of them a shot to be #1C, the other one going to 2nd line LW.
- MaximusAurelius


I will not expect that, just like I will not expect DUbinsky to ever be a #1 center, or ever expect someone to ever consider him to be.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 6 @ 8:39 AM ET
I'd admit I was wrong, but this is Hockeybuzz.
- Atomic Wedgie


You should've prefixed it with, "I'm hearing from sources that..." and then followed up with "hey, I only report what I hear" when I called you out.

Go on, give it a try next time.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:45 AM ET
I don't see Dubinsky as a #1 center; he's pretty much playing 3rd line duties this year. I want Stastny
- gravyface


Dubinsky was playing C until last year when he was moved to wing - consequently he had his worst season so far.. He would be looking to play C again, probably not happening at NYR with Tortorella, until NYR deals 1/2 other Centers..

Dubinsky is very decent on face-offs, physical presence, always playing with heart.. Would be a good fit on a line with Kessel (not sure if they played together on team USA) and Lupul.

TheDeez
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: New Liskeard, ON
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:45 AM ET
Makes you wonder how long before McClement is demoted....
- SofaKingBored


You sir are a total idiot. Haven't even given McClement an opportunity yet and your already poopting on him. Have some faith my friend. We need fans not skeptics.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 6 @ 8:47 AM ET
So now that EK has told us that we are goingt o get Getzlaf...........

To ANH: Connolly, KAdri, Franson, 2014 1st rnd pk

To Tor: Getzlaf

- billyberg10


GOD DAMN IT ... That means it won't happen
deerow84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GTA, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:49 AM ET
Carlyle said that he's going to give JVR a long look at center..... presumably #1 center. I don't think Bozak is a fit at #3. Something has to give.
- burn


Definitely. Only question is who is even available? People throw around names like Stastny and Getzlaf and Thornton/Marleau but what if they aren't available? Teams aren't lining up to trade any centres let alone guys who could play on the first line. Unless it's a situation like J. Staal where he's a pending free agent and you're pretty sure (hell, he could have told them outright) that he isn't going to sign there and your hand is forced or if you have a bad Cap situation and your hand is forced.

My bet is we make an "upgrade" at centre but it's not a star player. I know we won't get Ribeiro because he just got traded but I think it'll be a guy more of that range than a guy like Getzlaf. That's still an improvement, definitely, but it's not like a massive overhaul.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 6 @ 8:50 AM ET
Has Getz been fitted with his Leafs jersey yet??
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 6 @ 8:54 AM ET
Has Getz been fitted with his Leafs jersey yet??
- faceto27


Deal fell through....he wanted number 8 but a certain assistant captain wouldnt hand it over who Toronto couldnt trade.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 6 @ 8:54 AM ET
Has Getz been fitted with his Leafs jersey yet??
- faceto27

He doesn't actually have to be fitted.

I was down at the ACC this morning, and they are making tons of Getzlaf jerseys for the shop - in all sizes.

So he can just take whatever one he wants.
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