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eihcnerf
Location: if he was banned because al
Joined: 06.05.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:35 PM ET
You are kidding right...?
Trading Schenn (+) could have brought the Leafs Tavares/Duchene..

- MaximusAurelius

3 years ago. that ship sailed in a hurrry.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:35 PM ET
Two minutes ago, you said the Avalanche couldn't afford Stastny.

Bozak, MacArthur and Franson (at 1.25 million) add up to 6 million dollars.

The lengths they would go to save 600K.

- Two_For_Truth


Depth. Plus three players paid not just one. Pretty obvious.
eihcnerf
Location: if he was banned because al
Joined: 06.05.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:36 PM ET
Are you going to keep over valueing him? Should I insert 3, not one, smiley face to make you aware of the humour in over valueing Stastny?
- Gunslinger

Whatever makes you happy man.
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:36 PM ET
I was more going with Bozak and Mac combined provide more offense that Stastny with $2M savings.
- Big_Lightnin


Bozak and MacArthur combined gives you 90 points. You think we could get Tavares for them?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:36 PM ET
Trading D'amigo (+) could get us Ovechkin.
- Lee Denault


you clearly don't remember the talks going on at the 09 entry draft..
eihcnerf
Location: if he was banned because al
Joined: 06.05.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:37 PM ET
So Stastny could reclaim his 70-80 point performances in Toronto but not in Colorado, so, that's why the Avalanche should get rid of him? To acquire Bozak and save chump change.

Interesting.

- Two_For_Truth

Makes plenty of sense.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:37 PM ET
Yes, Stastny is not elite. And if this is the ACE in the hole Burke has. I'm dumbfounded. It most likely will be. And all the Leaf fans who only watch Leaf game will rejoice thinking we have a 100 point player. When his numbers are really not impressive at all considering how high he is regarded.
- Lee Denault


Ahhh logic and common sense. This place has missed you. Come in have a beer.
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:37 PM ET
Depth. Plus three players paid not just one. Pretty obvious.
- Gunslinger


Three players they don't need to save 600K. Obvious.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 5 @ 6:38 PM ET
They will obviously all have career years forever.
- eihcnerf


since getting top 6 minutes...

Mac's last 2 seasons combined - 41G, 105pts

Stastny's last 2 season combined - 43G, 110pts.
Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Time to get Schwifty
Joined: 11.16.2007

Jul 5 @ 6:38 PM ET
you clearly don't remember the talks going on at the 09 entry draft..
- MaximusAurelius

Ahh so you're going back 3 years.

Shame on you for not giving Burke that crystal ball!
Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Time to get Schwifty
Joined: 11.16.2007

Jul 5 @ 6:39 PM ET
Ahhh logic and common sense. This place has missed you. Come in have a beer.
- Gunslinger

How 'bout 14?
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:39 PM ET
Whatever makes you happy man.
- eihcnerf

Your bitterness and self loathing. That and your thoughts on Wayne Gre..Stastny
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 5 @ 6:39 PM ET
Bozak and MacArthur combined gives you 90 points. You think we could get Tavares for them?
- Two_For_Truth


well hey Avs should just trade Stastny for Tavares then right, cause they're even remotely close to the same player

Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 5 @ 6:39 PM ET
since getting top 6 minutes...

Mac's last 2 seasons combined - 45G, 105pts

Stastny's last 2 season combined - 45G, 110pts.

- Big_Lightnin



Ouch.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:40 PM ET
Three players they don't need to save 600K. Obvious.
- Two_For_Truth

Obvious. They save more by not needing to pay two other players. Obvious.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 5 @ 6:40 PM ET
Ouch.
- noename09


Stastny did it for $13.2M

Mac did it for $4.3M

but ya, that's a stupid trade.
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Jul 5 @ 6:41 PM ET
Woooooh

Kessel + 1st (2013) + 1st (2014) for Lars Eller + Danny Kristo + 2nd rd pick (2015).

Kessel can finally become the prophetised 100 goals scorer he could never become in T.O and Burke gets his hands on some nice piece for the future and a bonafide #1 center.

DOOOIT BURKIE!
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:42 PM ET
wow...

they can't afford to pay 1 player that amount of money for that little production. Spreading that salary over 3 players, and getting far more production (adding Frason's offense takes them well over 100pts) is saving a ton of money.

- Big_Lightnin


Their roster is nearly full. All they have to do is sign O'Reilly and McGinn and their roster is complete. Why would they acquire three players they don't need and that aren't significant upgrades?
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jul 5 @ 6:42 PM ET
So Stastny could reclaim his 70-80 point performances in Toronto but not in Colorado, so, that's why the Avalanche should get rid of him? To acquire Bozak and save chump change.

Interesting.

- Two_For_Truth


When a player has an albatross contract, is underperforming, getting pushed down the depth chart, what do you think happens to his trade value? For example, Luongo, Lecavalier, Stastny, Bouwmeester, etc.

He is being played behind Duchene, and Oreilly, not performing as good as them. They provide better bang for the buck currently for the Avs.

Who did the Pens acquire to replace Staal on the 3rd line, mind you he's only 23, so the price was obviously higher, but guess what, no other then a 3rd line centerman on top of the pick.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:42 PM ET
since getting top 6 minutes...

Mac's last 2 seasons combined - 45G, 105pts

Stastny's last 2 season combined - 45G, 110pts.

- Big_Lightnin


Point made, game over. Guess Mac should be making 6.5 million
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:42 PM ET
Ahh so you're going back 3 years.

Shame on you for not giving Burke that crystal ball!

- Lee Denault


you either didn't read through the complete conversation on how we came to this point (or just ignored to read the previous comment and were 'trigger-happy' to make a quick comment) or you simply cannot follow...

the point was that Burke had Schenn marked 'untradeble' ('future captain material') before, and now traded him away.. The same thing can happen to Phaneuf
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Jul 5 @ 6:42 PM ET
Stastny did it for $13.2M

Mac did it for $4.3M

but ya, that's a stupid trade.

- Big_Lightnin


If its such a stale trade as you imply, why would either teams be interested in it?
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:43 PM ET
Woooooh

Kessel + 1st (2013) + 1st (2014) for Lars Eller + Danny Kristo + 2nd rd pick (2015).

Kessel can finally become the prophetised 100 goals scorer he could never become in T.O and Burke gets his hands on some nice piece for the future and a bonafide #1 center.

DOOOIT BURKIE!

- PRICEless


He can score 200 playing with Gomez!
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:43 PM ET
well hey Avs should just trade Stastny for Tavares then right, cause they're even remotely close to the same player


- Big_Lightnin


They would have better luck than the Leafs would with Bozak and MacArthur.
Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Time to get Schwifty
Joined: 11.16.2007

Jul 5 @ 6:44 PM ET
you either didn't read through the complete conversation on how we came to this point (or just ignored to read the previous comment and were 'trigger-happy' to make a quick comment) or you simply cannot follow...

the point was that Burke had Schenn marked 'untradeble' ('future captain material') before, and now traded him away.. The same thing can happen to Phaneuf

- MaximusAurelius

We're talking about Phaneuf now?

Of course I cant follow. WTF are you talking about?
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