Well they did draft 4 defenseman.
- MJL

But they may never see 2 of them (Fredrik Larsson & Valeri Vasiliev)

we really have no choice
- puckhead17

Well more than having no choice but to rely on him, I genuinely have faith in Bryzgalov. I can't legally drink still, so I guess I'm not that bitter of a Philly sports fan; I see the city's sports a little more objectively. Bryz comes from PHX to Philly (no media to stupid huge following media) +1, as a highly touted goaltender something thats been lacking for years +1. The offseason that we trade two cornerstones of our franchise, create some cap space and fill the team with youth and a future, and essentially say "Here are the keys Bryz". +1

Recipe for diaster if you ask me, especially with his loose screws in the noggin. But I have faith in his ability between the pipes.

But they may never see 2 of them (Fredrik Larsson & Valeri Vasiliev)
- ob18

You would know more about that then I would.

Bill, do you think after what we just saw Suter get Weber is now basically a lock to test the market? I see all these trade scenarios and it just seems like if he's gonna walk anyway, why give up the assets?

yea but you act like we got stuck with Garth Snow for 9 years
- JoeRussomanno

I guess his adjustment period is over starting October

Hey Joe, were you surprised Carle wasn't jumped on by Detroit?
They are in worse shape than us on the back end

yea but you act like we got stuck with Garth Snow for 9 years
- JoeRussomanno

so many do-- including much of the generic sports media and I am so sick of it.
Bryz for the Veznia 2013. Book it!!!

So he is pretty good defensively then?

I would assume he will be playing on Couturier's wing?

Guessing the lineup shakes out something like this? Girroux still needing a winger... looks like it will end up being Voracek?

Hartnell-Giroux-_________
Simmonds-Briere-Schenn
Read-Couturier-Fedotenko
Wellwood-Talbot-Rinaldo
Schelley

Coburn-Grossman
Timonen-Schenn
Meszaros-Gervais
Lilja

Bryzgalov
Leighton

Do we kick the tires on Semin?
- Flyers2821

No Semin... I just couldn't handle this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM

Bill, do you think after what we just saw Suter get Weber is now basically a lock to test the market? I see all these trade scenarios and it just seems like if he's gonna walk anyway, why give up the assets?
- hereticpride

I think we should wait it out. If want him, pay a kings ransom NEXT year and not rip up our roster.

Well more than having no choice but to rely on him, I genuinely have faith in Bryzgalov. I can't legally drink still, so I guess I'm not that bitter of a Philly sports fan; I see the city's sports a little more objectively. Bryz comes from PHX to Philly (no media to stupid huge following media) +1, as a highly touted goaltender something thats been lacking for years +1. The offseason that we trade two cornerstones of our franchise, create some cap space and fill the team with youth and a future, and essentially say "Here are the keys Bryz". +1

Recipe for diaster if you ask me, especially with his loose screws in the noggin. But I have faith in his ability between the pipes.
- GirouxForTheShow

Yeah those screws in his head need tightening, yup, but this should be a more comfortable season for him, adjustment wise

I guess his adjustment period is over starting October

Hey Joe, were you surprised Carle wasn't jumped on by Detroit?
They are in worse shape than us on the back end
- puckhead17

it's been illustrated ad nauseaum how he picked it up in the second half. Kinda his mo in Phoenix too.

I was surprised but technically he was if you still consider Yzerman a Redwing
I think the years were a deal breaker for them though (the wings). Otherwise not sure what their plans are.

I think we should wait it out. If want him, pay a kings ransom NEXT year and not rip up our roster.
- FlyersFirst

100% agree.

No Semin... I just couldn't handle this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM
- leon neon

That is INSANE. I cant belive that. Like a 5th grade school girl.

so many do-- including much of the generic sports media and I am so sick of it.
Bryz for the Veznia 2013. Book it!!!
- FlyersFirst

He posted numbers better than or as good as any other Flyers goalie who started over 40 games since Esche iirc. Wasn't a great season but all things considered I'd call the season far from a disaster like the generic sports media you mention.

No Semin... I just couldn't handle this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM
- leon neon

Literally dr pepper flew put my nose thx for the laugh lol

No Semin... I just couldn't handle this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM
- leon neon

Believe I saw Semin on his back,

it's been illustrated ad nauseaum how he picked it up in the second half. Kinda his mo in Phoenix too.

I was surprised but technically he was if you still consider Yzerman a Redwing
I think the years were a deal breaker for them though (the wings). Otherwise not sure what their plans are.
- JoeRussomanno

funny one, forgot for a minute about Yzerman

will be interesting to see, but I touched on this last night, almost every other team has a hole on their D if you peruse the rosters, some have slightly bigger one's, but almost all could use another guy, either in a puck moving or stay at home capacity

That is INSANE. I cant belive that. Like a 5th grade school girl.
- FlyersFirst

I don't mind if some one gets their a$$ kicked once in a while, but that's just silly. If that happened in O&B, we'd never live it down.

You would know more about that then I would.
- MJL

Bill mentioned it in a blog about Larsson, I just figured Valeri Vasiliev would also be similar in what could happen.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=45263

I guess his adjustment period is over starting October

Hey Joe, were you surprised Carle wasn't jumped on by Detroit?
They are in worse shape than us on the back end
- puckhead17

I wouldn't even consider the Flyers in "bad shape" in terms of D. I'd say above average. Having Timonen, Coburn, Meszy, and Grossman as a top 4 is pretty solid. Add a young, Schenn to the team (with coaching direction from one of Hatcher/Pronger), and he can largely effective this year. That #6 spot will be key, as the goal will be to not overextend Timonen's energy throughout the year.

All in all, the defense is more of a "given" than offense. I'm worried about offensive production. Losing JVR/Jagr and replacing with Fedotenko is not a solid move. Sure the younger guys can step up, but they all had amazing seasons last year to begin with. I don't expect much more out of Read/Coots. Schenn may have some room to improve, but I still see this team as another forward short of making noise.

Believe I saw Semin on his back,
- JoeRussomanno

was that the NHL??

o man

funny one, forgot for a minute about Yzerman

will be interesting to see, but I touched on this last night, almost every other team has a hole on their D if you peruse the rosters, some have slightly bigger one's, but almost all could use another guy, either in a puck moving or stay at home capacity
- puckhead17

Don't know if you saw it but I posted a twitterversation I had with Tocchet. Told him to tell Homer to forget about Parise/Suter if anything get Weber. His reply... Weber is the guy. I think they let Carle go because A. he got offered too much anyway B. They have room left to make a move for Weber.

No Semin... I just couldn't handle this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM
- leon neon

if he pots 35 with G I can look past it.......Harts can handle that stuff

Don't know if you saw it but I posted a twitterversation I had with Tocchet. Told him to tell Homer to forget about Parise/Suter if anything get Weber. His reply... Weber is the guy. I think they let Carle go because A. he got offered too much anyway B. They have room left to make a move for Weber.
- JoeRussomanno

A move via FreeAgency, or a move via trade?

I wouldn't even consider the Flyers in "bad shape" in terms of D. I'd say above average. Having Timonen, Coburn, Meszy, and Grossman as a top 4 is pretty solid. Add a young, Schenn to the team (with coaching direction from one of Hatcher/Pronger), and he can largely effective this year. That #6 spot will be key, as the goal will be to not overextend Timonen's energy throughout the year.

All in all, the defense is more of a "given" than offense. I'm worried about offensive production. Losing JVR/Jagr and replacing with Fedotenko is not a solid move. Sure the younger guys can step up, but they all had amazing seasons last year to begin with. I don't expect much more out of Read/Coots. Schenn may have some room to improve, but I still see this team as another forward short of making noise.
- steelydan

Timmonen's health is a concern, if he's not the defenseman we are used to, or let's say misses long stretches then we have a problem, unless Schenn becomes a solid top 4 right away, (which is really the main concern), how long it takes him to improve & play like a projected top 4 guy

Jagr was a stopgap for a year to buy the kids time, I didn't see him staying another year & we shouldn't have banked on him doing so either.

A move via FreeAgency, or a move via trade?
- steelydan

I think trade. That's just what I think though... perhaps Free agency next summer, I'd prefer that but not what I think they do.