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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 11:08 AM ET
played 60+ games four years in a row. sure, that means he's missing a good 15 a year, but his production is very solid when he's healthy. wonder what the market is for him.
- OrangeBlack27

the spirit is there if the body can hold up
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
Source: as of 11 a.m. #Flyers have not heard from Suter or Parise camps yet today. Good sign? Who knows? -- Sam Carchidi (@BroadStBull)

Too funny Sammy Boy.

- stveshdy


LOL. Why do you follow him?
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
Source: as of 11 a.m. #Flyers have not heard from Suter or Parise camps yet today. Good sign? Who knows? -- Sam Carchidi (@BroadStBull)

Too funny Sammy Boy.

- stveshdy


I actually do not know why I follow him. You know what. I think I will unfollow him. Thank you.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
Did you see the first shift of the eliminating game vs. Pitt?

The guy came out, told his coach he wanted the first shift, told the players on the bench "watch this", went out and laid out the best player in the world and scored a goal.

If that is not someone who has the ability to rally the troops, I dunno what is.

To me, that shift solidified what was already pretty much a done deal anyway. Claude Giroux will be the Flyers captain

- Flyers2821


I'm sorry you're not getting exactly what I am saying. I'm not saying G is not a leader, but different responsibilities come with the C then just being an impact player. The guy has to have the voice for the players with coaches, staff, media and refs. There's more to it then telling the guys "Hey we will win this game" and doing it.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 4 @ 11:09 AM ET


You like Briere about as much as I like Carle. You want Briere shipped to Calgary for Jay-NO

- PLindbergh31


the money works!
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
They're going to Detroit -- it's a perfect fit from every angle.
- Tomahawk


i'd have no problem with that at all. i've been over 1997 for a while now

better than seeing one of them on the pens
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
People said the exact same thing about Mike Richards back in the day, getting all carried away with the Bobby Clarke comparisons and all. In the end, he just wasn't mature enough to handle everything that the job entailed, and it began to affect his performance on the ice and his relationships off the ice.

I don't want them jumping to conclusions w/ Giroux.

- Tomahawk


Yea but Mike Richards always had that punk in him when it came to talking to the media and what not. Richards was without question a leader on the ice, but it was clear he was going to have issues with the media for a long time here.

I don't think the maturity level of Claude Giroux is an issue at all, rather a driving force in why he should be captain.

I get what you are saying about Richards, but to me Claude Giroux is on a completely different level on AND off the ice in comparison to Richards.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 4 @ 11:10 AM ET
They're going to Detroit -- it's a perfect fit from every angle.
- Tomahawk


Same could be said for Minny.

Oh the tension has become unbearable. How will I ever be able to digest the 3 hot dogs and 3 hamburgers that I'll be forcing down this afternoon?
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 4 @ 11:10 AM ET
I'm sorry you're not getting exactly what I am saying. I'm not saying G is not a leader, but different responsibilities come with the C then just being an impact player. The guy has to have the voice for the players with coaches, staff, media and refs. There's more to it then telling the guys "Hey we will win this game" and doing it.
- Glak18


So you are just blindly making the assumption that Giroux doesn't fire up the guys behind close doors?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 4 @ 11:10 AM ET


You like Briere about as much as I like Carle. You want Briere shipped to Calgary for Jay-NO

- PLindbergh31


praying to god briere plays on the first line right wing so i don't have to watch him play center ever again.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 11:11 AM ET
apparently they are worth about 3-4 million (Gaustad)
- Phifly10


Gaustad isn't a zit on Madden's ass. He's nowhere near as good defensively as Madden was in his prime.

Gaustad has one goal in 48 career playoff games. PA-thet-ic
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 4 @ 11:11 AM ET
i'd have no problem with that at all. i've been over 1997 for a while now

better than seeing one of them on the pens

- FlyerMike18


absolutely beats the pens. but not as good as if it were minn
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 4 @ 11:11 AM ET
did anyone hear any reasons why that guy gragnani wasn't qualified by the canucks? seems strange.... he's definitely an interesting option if the big moves fall through
- FlyerMike18



A little like JvR, he caught lightning in a bottle during the 2011 playoffs, but then fell on his face the next season. As it stands, he doesn't have the defensive chops to hold down a top-4 job, and he's not as effective as a 5-7 guy. Plus, he's already at that age where he's not really considered a prospect anymore.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
praying to god briere plays on the first line right wing so i don't have to watch him play center ever again.
- OrangeBlack27


His defensive shortcomings are certainly magnified at the Center position. He might be on the wing with Giroux by default.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
absolutely beats the pens. but not as good as if it were minn
- OrangeBlack27

Just wait til they move Detriot back to the East after they both sign.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
yep just let the kid focus on his game and not all that other crap.
- OrangeBlack27


exactly
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
Yea but Mike Richards always had that punk in him when it came to talking to the media and what not. Richards was without question a leader on the ice, but it was clear he was going to have issues with the media for a long time here.

I don't think the maturity level of Claude Giroux is an issue at all, rather a driving force in why he should be captain.

I get what you are saying about Richards, but to me Claude Giroux is on a completely different level on AND off the ice in comparison to Richards.

- Flyers2821


I thought the problem with Captain Richards was that he was divisive. The media was even implying, last year, that he was causing a divide in the King's locker room. The captain should be someone that brings the team together not one who drives them apart
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
LOL. Why do you follow him?
- PLindbergh31

I follow everyone but currently I'm on an iPhone and my source keeps texting me updated info.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 4 @ 11:13 AM ET
Yea but Mike Richards always had that punk in him when it came to talking to the media and what not. Richards was without question a leader on the ice, but it was clear he was going to have issues with the media for a long time here.

I don't think the maturity level of Claude Giroux is an issue at all, rather a driving force in why he should be captain.

I get what you are saying about Richards, but to me Claude Giroux is on a completely different level on AND off the ice in comparison to Richards.

- Flyers2821


If Pronger didn't get injured it would of been perfect for G to learn even more from a long time team captain, but since he did get hurt the worst thing to do in my mind is to rush the inevitable because of circumstances.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
Same could be said for Minny.

Oh the tension has become unbearable. How will I ever be able to digest the 3 hot dogs and 3 hamburgers that I'll be forcing down this afternoon?

- 77rams


You mean you aren't entering the Nathan's hot dog eating contest?

68 hot dogs in 10 minutes doesn't sound all that difficult does it?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
Just wait til they move Detriot back to the East after they both sign.
- hereticpride


lol no
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 4 @ 11:15 AM ET
You mean you aren't entering the Nathan's hot dog eating contest?

68 hot dogs in 10 minutes doesn't sound all that difficult does it?

- PLindbergh31




For Jenna Jameson no, but man thats a lot of hot dogs.....
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 11:15 AM ET
Gaustad isn't a zit on Madden's ass. He's nowhere near as good defensively as Madden was in his prime.

Gaustad has one goal in 48 career playoff games. PA-thet-ic

- PLindbergh31


I know, I am insinuating that he is over paid. Many forget how good madden was.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 4 @ 11:16 AM ET
Just wait til they move Detriot back to the East after they both sign.
- hereticpride





crap, is that really happening? I didnt think they were doing that
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 4 @ 11:16 AM ET
So you are just blindly making the assumption that Giroux doesn't fire up the guys behind close doors?
- Flyers2821


The captain is MORE than just firing up the guys. Some of the best captain's I have played with and coached weren't even close to being the best players on the team.
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