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Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
4th of July all makes sense for Philly. I'm very doubtful though. Can't wait for the mayhem to start for teams who lose out.
- stveshdy


Well one thing is for sure.. if they make their decision at noon... there are going to be major fireworks today before it is even dark out.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
Pretty sure it is a foregone conclusion that #28 will be the Flyers captain for the next decade.
- Flyers2821


No...

If they learned anything from the Richards debacle, they'd be best served in the short-term by assigning it to a vet like Timonen or Briere.

As far as the future is concerned, I think you'll see Luke Schenn emerge as a very strong candidate. He handles all the off-ice stuff and the media with aplomb, and that was under the lights of hockey-mad Toronto.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
Link?
- Flyers2821

Happy July 4th to my American friends and followers south of the border. Two great American hockey players set to make their decision today. -- Pierre LeBrun (@Real_ESPNLeBrun)
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 10:51 AM ET
It's a miracle that the Flyers have survived thus far in free-agency w/o blundering yet... thanks to Suter/Parise/Doan delaying their decisions, many members of the overrated/overpaid club that the Flyers might have considered are already off the table: Garrison, Wideman, Parenteau, etc.

I'm surprised that a guy like Colaiacovo is still on the board. He averaged about 19:00 TOI during the regular season, played against top competition, held his own as Pietrangelo's d-partner, was the Blues best d-man in terms or pushing the play up the ice, and has the tools to contribute on the PP. Durability is always going to be an issue with him, but as far as him being a great short-term plugin for Carle, there probably isn't a more affordable/effective option on the UFA market.

I'd also steer clear of handing Doan a 3-4 year contract, especially when a comparable guy like B. Morrow would most likely be available for pennies on the dollar, with only a year left on his contract.

- Tomahawk

CC's 2nd home is the training room...always hurt
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 10:51 AM ET
No...

If they learned anything from the Richards debacle, they'd be best served in the short-term by assigning it to a vet like Timonen or Briere.

As far as the future is concerned, I think you'll see Luke Schenn emerge as a very strong candidate. He handles all the off-ice stuff and the media with aplomb, and that was under the lights of hockey-mad Toronto.

- Tomahawk


I think Talbot would make a fine Captain.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
No...

If they learned anything from the Richards debacle, they'd be best served in the short-term by assigning it to a vet like Timonen or Briere.

As far as the future is concerned, I think you'll see Luke Schenn emerge as a very strong candidate. He handles all the off-ice stuff and the media with aplomb, and that was under the lights of hockey-mad Toronto.

- Tomahawk


Claude Giroux is going to be the Flyers captain. I don't have any doubt in my mind about that.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
Speaking of, kinda...any thoughts or rumors on how the captaincy is going to be handled next year?
- Glak18


I'd give it to the most well respected voice in the locker room, whomever that may be.

First line center, 6th d-mam, doesn't matter. I never subscribed to the - best player gets the "C" - theory. I've seen it's weight adversely affect a few careers.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Told that over the past 36 hours, the dialogue between Parise and Suter picked up considerably...


So the teams rumored to offer both players deals were... Philly, Minnesota, Detroit, Pitt... right?

Basically narrows down nothing?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
Nope, Maatta went two picks later to the Penguins....
- PLindbergh31


given their track record in that spot in the first round over the last ten years, i think the flyers have earned a pass on second guessing their picks.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Told that over the past 36 hours, the dialogue between Parise and Suter picked up considerably...


So the teams rumored to offer both players deals were... Philly, Minnesota, Detroit, Pitt... right?

- Flyers2821


No, Pittsburgh can't afford both, and I don't think Detroit offered Parise a deal. I think the only two teams in on both guys are Minnesota and Philadelphia.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Happy July 4th to my American friends and followers south of the border. Two great American hockey players set to make their decision today. -- Pierre LeBrun (@Real_ESPNLeBrun)
- stveshdy

Also, they are announcing on a Wednesday, widely known to be Ed Snider's favorite day of the week.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
I think Talbot would make a fine Captain.
- PLindbergh31


definitely a nice dark horse candidate.... he has all the tools

my vote would probably go for briere, but talbot would be an interesting choice. he was probably my favorite player on the team last year, such a hard worker
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
given their track record in that spot in the first round over the last ten years, i think the flyers have earned a pass on second guessing their picks.
- OrangeBlack27


Yep. I said as much in a previous post.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 10:55 AM ET
definitely a nice dark horse candidate.... he has all the tools

my vote would probably go for briere, but talbot would be an interesting choice. he was probably my favorite player on the team last year, such a hard worker

- FlyerMike18


Agreed. Great signing by Holmgren. What a bargain.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:55 AM ET
Noon announcement
- stveshdy

Eastern or Central?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 4 @ 10:56 AM ET
I'd give it to the most well respected voice in the locker room, whomever that may be.

First line center, 6th d-mam, doesn't matter. I never subscribed to the - best player gets the "C" - theory. I've seen it's weight adversely affect a few careers.

- 77rams


I believe the same, never liked the idea that the best player has to have the C. Rather have Giroux keep the A for a while.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 4 @ 10:56 AM ET
did anyone hear any reasons why that guy gragnani wasn't qualified by the canucks? seems strange.... he's definitely an interesting option if the big moves fall through
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:56 AM ET
No, Pittsburgh can't afford both, and I don't think Detroit offered Parise a deal. I think the only two teams in on both guys are Minnesota and Philadelphia.
- PLindbergh31


Pittsburg has more cap space than we do. I am almost certain I read several times they made offers to both.
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:57 AM ET
And the front runner for Parise and Suter at 10:24 a.m. EST appears to be....the Wild. -- Sam Carchidi (@BroadStBull)
- stveshdy


He cited no sources and is usually full of poop
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 4 @ 10:57 AM ET
I think Talbot would make a fine Captain.
- PLindbergh31



There's definitely no shortage of viable present and future candidates on the current squad.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
He cited no sources and is usually full of poop
- Phifly10

Anything cited by Sam should be marked with an (e<)
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 4 @ 10:59 AM ET
It's a miracle that the Flyers have survived thus far in free-agency w/o blundering yet... thanks to Suter/Parise/Doan delaying their decisions, many members of the overrated/overpaid club that the Flyers might have considered are already off the table: Garrison, Wideman, Parenteau, etc.

I'm surprised that a guy like Colaiacovo is still on the board. He averaged about 19:00 TOI during the regular season, played against top competition, held his own as Pietrangelo's d-partner, was the Blues best d-man in terms or pushing the play up the ice, and has the tools to contribute on the PP. Durability is always going to be an issue with him, but as far as him being a great short-term plugin for Carle, there probably isn't a more affordable/effective option on the UFA market.

I'd also steer clear of handing Doan a 3-4 year contract, especially when a comparable guy like B. Morrow would most likely be available for pennies on the dollar, with only a year left on his contract.

- Tomahawk


Garrison and Parenteau were actually compensated rather fairly, imo.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:59 AM ET
I believe the same, never liked the idea that the best player has to have the C. Rather have Giroux keep the A for a while.
- Glak18


Do you remember his first shift against Pitt when we eliminated them? The guy is not only the best player on this team but the best leader as well. Not to mention he is tremendous with the media/fans.

Everything about Claude Giroux screams face of the franchise and leader of the team.

He will absolutely be wearing the C. I would be stunned if anyone else got it
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:59 AM ET
With that said I would not be surprised if it did end that way, yet he never breaks anything so I know that was just his opinion
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:59 AM ET
Eastern or Central?
- hereticpride

Eastern I hope.
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