They are small up front, but they can rectify that with a couple of cheap signings. Several solid 3rd/4th liners with size or at least grit left in FA pool. They could also make a trade.

I'm more willing to wait and let the young core of the team develop, rather than running out now and trading young assets for a guy like Ryan or Nash. If Shane Doan leaves Phoenix, I'd be very interested, especially if he's willing to take a 2 year deal.

The Kings also allowed their talented young players to grow together and develop into a championship team.
- Jsaquella

One guy I would have went for is Brandon Prust for the 3rd line, Montreal made a nice play in getting him. Great forechecker, Great on the PK, corner guy, sticks up for his teammates & would have provided insulation for Couts

How's the bandwagon? Is it...



or


?

Also, who replaces Carle in this picture?


- Flyskippy

The bandwagon is half full. Luke Schenn is the scapegoat, along with Bryz and Briere.

How's the bandwagon? Is it...



or


?

Also, who replaces Carle in this picture?


- Flyskippy

I love what the Flyers have done. Didnt overpay and some think that the Flyers were stupid to wait for the big two, what does that make Pitt, Det, Chi?? some teams havent gotten better and the Flyers team is still talented.

One guy I would have went for is Brandon Prust for the 3rd line, Montreal made a nice play in getting him. Great forechecker, Great on the PK, corner guy, sticks up for his teammates & would have provided insulation for Couts
- puckhead17

I like Prust, but 4 years, $10mm is too much for a guy that would be a third liner at best here.

One guy I would have went for is Brandon Prust for the 3rd line, Montreal made a nice play in getting him. Great forechecker, Great on the PK, corner guy, sticks up for his teammates & would have provided insulation for Couts
- puckhead17

Yeah I liked Prust but 3.5?? ehhh glad that Homer went away from that mess

I love what the Flyers have done. Didnt overpay and some think that the Flyers were stupid to wait for the big two, what does that make Pitt, Det, Chi?? some teams havent gotten better and the Flyers team is still talented.
- bigmookalookie

Schenn is too young to be a scapegoat, people will female dog and complain if JVR is lighting it up and Schenn is struggling, but people would be foolish to blame Schenn. Briere is what he is, a streaky scorer who is a liability defensively.

With Carle gone, Bryzgalov is going to feel the wrath of a lynch mob if he struggles again.

I like Prust, but 4 years, $10mm is too much for a guy that would be a third liner at best here.
- Jsaquella

Holmgren might be a bit busy tomorrow, I have a feeling that Homer will make moves or get a few role playing guys tomorrow

I like Prust, but 4 years, $10mm is too much for a guy that would be a third liner at best here.
- Jsaquella

That's more than the Flyers are paying Talbot and Prust isn't close to the player Talbot is. Very underrated PK guy though Prust.

The bandwagon is half full. Luke Schenn is the scapegoat, along with Bryz and Briere.

- Jsaquella

Awesome. I'm going popcorn shopping in September. Good to know it behooves me to buy in bulk still.

Schenn is too young to be a scapegoat, people will female dog and complain if JVR is lighting it up and Schenn is struggling, but people would be foolish to blame Schenn. Briere is what he is, a streaky scorer who is a liability defensively.

With Carle gone, Bryzgalov is going to feel the wrath of a lynch mob if he struggles again.
- PLindbergh31

I hope he doesnt struggle. I love Schenn, big time hitter, stands up for team mates, and is a huge (frank)er. I think Homer has done well, (frank) Carle and the 6 yr 5.5 he wanted . Tomorrow may bring some interesting news from the Flyer front. I wouldnt mind Brunette or Mueller. What about MAG?? He could be a cheap buy.

I love what the Flyers have done. Didnt overpay and some think that the Flyers were stupid to wait for the big two, what does that make Pitt, Det, Chi?? some teams havent gotten better and the Flyers team is still talented.
- bigmookalookie

The Flyers haven't bled as much NHL level talent as most Atlantic teams.

The Pens have a ton of cap room, but traded Jordan Staal. Maybe they're in on Ryan and Nash, but both Columbus and Anaheim look like they'll want young forwards with some NHL experience in trade. The Pens have a ton of good young defense prospects, but Anaheim just added two solid NHLers and Columbus will need a name to sell in a Nash trade.

The Devils managed to keep Brodeur and Salvador, but they lost Parise. Add in their financial issues and they might not be able to replace Parise at all.

The Rangers lost a good locker room guy in Prust, and have the assets to make a move for Nash or Ryan without gutting themselves. They are the biggest worry in the division.

The Isles are the one team that basically tread water. They lost Parenteau, but added Vishnovsky and Boyes. Boyes has had a couple/few down years, but if he's gunning with Tavares and Moulson, he could rebound.

Awesome. I'm going popcorn shopping in September. Good to know it behooves me to buy in bulk still.
- Flyskippy

, Might need to get a club card. Your popcorn shopping will always be done in bulk, esp if your a Flyers fan

I love what the Flyers have done. Didnt overpay and some think that the Flyers were stupid to wait for the big two, what does that make Pitt, Det, Chi?? some teams havent gotten better and the Flyers team is still talented.
- bigmookalookie

The big shiny magic fun time players went elsewhere. I guess we'll have to watch Anime instead.

I hope he doesnt struggle. I love Schenn, big time hitter, stands up for team mates, and is a huge (frank)er. I think Homer has done well, (frank) Carle and the 6 yr 5.5 he wanted . Tomorrow may bring some interesting news from the Flyer front. I wouldnt mind Brunette or Mueller. What about MAG?? He could be a cheap buy.
- bigmookalookie

I think they are done in the depth defense market, and that's what Gragnani is right now.

If they add a defenseman, it'll be a top pair guy

I like Prust, but 4 years, $10mm is too much for a guy that would be a third liner at best here.
- Jsaquella

As well, Carle was $4.75 mill a year last week before maybe today.

$2.5 mill a year VS the $7.5 that Suter & Parise received? (inflated, but the market none the less).

I would say that about maybe too much for an average 3rd liner, but he's very versatile & has a few extra elements to him game, (over say an Aasham)

Just going back to an earlier post you did in reference to not all signings are for the first line, I do wish we could have looked into obtaining Prust, would have been a good move in my opinion

They are small up front, but they can rectify that with a couple of cheap signings. Several solid 3rd/4th liners with size or at least grit left in FA pool. They could also make a trade.

I'm more willing to wait and let the young core of the team develop, rather than running out now and trading young assets for a guy like Ryan or Nash. If Shane Doan leaves Phoenix, I'd be very interested, especially if he's willing to take a 2 year deal.

The Kings also allowed their talented young players to grow together and develop into a championship team.
- Jsaquella

it's a lot easier to let the team grow together when you've got that stud on d like doughty. hard to win a cup w/o them...not impossible, but difficult.

fwiw, I'd radically change something in scouting like steal one from an org that does a great job of identifying dmen.

The Flyers haven't bled as much NHL level talent as most Atlantic teams.

The Pens have a ton of cap room, but traded Jordan Staal. Maybe they're in on Ryan and Nash, but both Columbus and Anaheim look like they'll want young forwards with some NHL experience in trade. The Pens have a ton of good young defense prospects, but Anaheim just added two solid NHLers and Columbus will need a name to sell in a Nash trade.

The Devils managed to keep Brodeur and Salvador, but they lost Parise. Add in their financial issues and they might not be able to replace Parise at all.

The Rangers lost a good locker room guy in Prust, and have the assets to make a move for Nash or Ryan without gutting themselves. They are the biggest worry in the division.

The Isles are the one team that basically tread water. They lost Parenteau, but added Vishnovsky and Boyes. Boyes has had a couple/few down years, but if he's gunning with Tavares and Moulson, he could rebound.
- Jsaquella

I would of loved to see Boyes here for the mil he got. I agree with all aspects tho. Pens better hope they get someone b/c the lost a decent amount of talent

I hope he doesnt struggle. I love Schenn, big time hitter, stands up for team mates, and is a huge (frank)er. I think Homer has done well, (frank) Carle and the 6 yr 5.5 he wanted . Tomorrow may bring some interesting news from the Flyer front. I wouldnt mind Brunette or Mueller. What about MAG?? He could be a cheap buy.
- bigmookalookie

Schenn has potential. 22 is very young in the developing process of a d-man. He could be a # 2 eventually, more likely he will be a second pairing guy, but we'll see.

I think there might be something to Holmgren thinking he had a handshake deal with Carle, and after the Wideman deal came down Carle's agent came back to Holmgren changing their tune. I can see this angering Holmgren and him saying tell Matt to go piss up a rope.

As well, Carle was $4.75 mill a year last week before maybe today.

$2.5 mill a year VS the $7.5 that Suter & Parise received? (inflated, but the market none the less).

I would say that about maybe too much for an average 3rd liner, but he's very versatile & has a few extra elements to him game, (over say an Aasham)

Just going back to an earlier post you did in reference to not all signings are for the first line, I do wish we could have looked into obtaining Prust, would have been a good move in my opinion
- puckhead17

I would have been ok with $5.5mm for Carle on a 4 year deal. The 6 years is the killer to me.

Prust would have been fantastic at $1.75mm. He;s getting $2.5mm for the Habs

The big shiny magic fun time players went elsewhere. I guess we'll have to watch Anime instead.


- Flyskippy

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiyaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh awwwwwwwwwww

That's more than the Flyers are paying Talbot and Prust isn't close to the player Talbot is. Very underrated PK guy though Prust.
- PLindbergh31

uuuuuhhhh, no, he would have been a fan favorite here.
I picture someone thinking twice about hitting Couter in his head if Prust were out there, (just another element to his game).

it's a lot easier to let the team grow together when you've got that stud on d like doughty. hard to win a cup w/o them...not impossible, but difficult.

fwiw, I'd radically change something in scouting like steal one from an org that does a great job of identifying dmen.
- isaiah520

Doughty had a poor year the season before last, and he struggled for the first half of the season last season. He credits John Stevens with getting his conditioning to a high level and making him realize his potential.

Who knows, maybe they end up with Weber by bypassing Carle and Jagr.

Schenn has potential. 22 is very young in the developing process of a d-man. He could be a # 2 eventually, more likely he will be a second pairing guy, but we'll see.

I think there might be something to Holmgren thinking he had a handshake deal with Carle, and after the Wideman deal came down Carle's agent came back to Holmgren changing their tune. I can see this angering Holmgren and him saying tell Matt to go piss up a rope.
- PLindbergh31

we all know what happens when you piss up a rope, prob why Carle left. He dun peed his face and got maddur than all hell

I would have been ok with $5.5mm for Carle on a 4 year deal. The 6 years is the killer to me.

Prust would have been fantastic at $1.75mm. He;s getting $2.5mm for the Habs
- Jsaquella

If you think Prust received too much, then I'm sure you believe Suter is robbing the bank

Or at least driving the getaway car?

If you think Prust received too much, then I'm sure you believe Suter is robbing the bank
- puckhead17

I felt $7mm was too high for Suter. I could have found a way to live with Parise for $7.5mm

Suter at that? I'd have been pissed.