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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 9:56 PM ET
“@DarrenDreger: Carles agrees to 6 year contract with Tampa Bay. $5.5 aav.”
- funmaster18


Good deal for TB. They got themselves a quality defenseman and improved their team today.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 9:57 PM ET
I don't like the jvr trade simply Bc the type of player L schenn is, is generally available year in and year out on the UFA market in the form of an o'donnell, zanon, grossman, etc. and I just wanted one more year of jvr. If the flyers have concerns long term with his hip. It was a good deal.
- Just5


Except for the fact that those players aren't 22 years old, and don't have the upside that Luke Schenn has.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 4 @ 9:58 PM ET
Id have to guess they had a hand shake deal for less and homer got pissed
- griouxmvp2012

Uh...what would compell you to say this??
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 9:58 PM ET
Well, I don't know where Homer's going to go here, but everyone is getting overpaid.
- Hextall271


I won't panic, plenty of time to do something else. No matter what I'm still a fan of the organization.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 4 @ 10:00 PM ET
i dont care we did not sign parise, suter, jagr or carle, im mad becasue this offseason has been a disaster

we lose-carle, jagr, jvr, bob, pronger
we gain-schenn, leighton

not impressed so far
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jul 4 @ 10:00 PM ET
No JVR No Jagr No Carle

...will once again be a totally different team in October
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:02 PM ET
Good deal for TB. They got themselves a quality defenseman and improved their team today.
- MJL

What's next on the Flyers to do list?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 10:02 PM ET
What's next on the Flyers to do list?
- stveshdy


Extend Shelley.... Durrrrr....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 10:02 PM ET
What's next on the Flyers to do list?
- stveshdy


Your guess is as good as mine.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 4 @ 10:03 PM ET
What's next on the Flyers to do list?
- stveshdy




something. anything
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:03 PM ET
i dont care we did not sign parise, suter, jagr or carle, im mad becasue this offseason has been a disaster

we lose-carle, jagr, jvr, bob, pronger
we gain-schenn, leighton

not impressed so far

- mydoglicks

griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:04 PM ET
Maybe they r shooting for McKinnon or jones next year
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 4 @ 10:04 PM ET
i dont care we did not sign parise, suter, jagr or carle, im mad becasue this offseason has been a disaster

we lose-carle, jagr, jvr, bob, pronger
we gain-schenn, leighton

not impressed so far

- mydoglicks


So you're saying you wanted the Flyers to sign Carle and Jagr at those numbers?
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jul 4 @ 10:04 PM ET
What's next on the Flyers to do list?
- stveshdy


He is coming....


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 10:04 PM ET
So you're saying you wanted the Flyers to sign Carle and Jagr at those numbers?
- ravishingone


Jagr, I would have passed. But Carle I would have absolutely signed to that deal.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:05 PM ET
So strange that on this thread Da Man estimated a six year, 5.5 per year deal.

Self high five beeches.
BaldRich
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kutztown, PA
Joined: 12.16.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:05 PM ET
i dont care we did not sign parise, suter, jagr or carle, im mad becasue this offseason has been a disaster

we lose-carle, jagr, jvr, bob, pronger
we gain-schenn, leighton

not impressed so far

- mydoglicks

Drafted Scott Laughton, Anthony Stolarz,Shayne Gostisbehere..... Pronger was gone last year already
Grabonator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 4 @ 10:05 PM ET
"TFP has learned that the Tampa Bay Lightning has sign UFA defenseman Matt Carle to a 6-year, $33M deal."
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 4 @ 10:06 PM ET
Maybe they r shooting for McKinnon or jones next year
- griouxmvp2012

FrankDrebbin
Location: PA
Joined: 02.27.2012

Jul 4 @ 10:07 PM ET
Jagr, I would have passed. But Carle I would have absolutely signed to that deal.
- MJL

Of course you would. You would probably extend Shelly too
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:07 PM ET
The Flyers lost some key players but I'm still happy they didn't overpay and get stuck with a bad contract. Homer still has a chance to upgrade but no need to be disappointed bc they will have a solid club next year.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 4 @ 10:07 PM ET
Jagr, I would have passed. But Carle I would have absolutely signed to that deal.
- MJL


Well, what's done is done. My assumption is the organization feels Meszy and Kimmo will be ready to go by opening night or pretty close afterward. Assuming these guys aren't dealt, I would assume we will see a lot more of Voracek and Read on the point on the PP paired with one of Kimmo or Meszy.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 10:08 PM ET
What's next on the Flyers to do list?
- stveshdy


Rip any move Homer makes like some always do?
FrankDrebbin
Location: PA
Joined: 02.27.2012

Jul 4 @ 10:08 PM ET
"TFP has learned that the Tampa Bay Lightning has sign UFA defenseman Matt Carle to a 6-year, $33M deal."
- Grabonator

Breaking news?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:08 PM ET
i dont care we did not sign parise, suter, jagr or carle, im mad becasue this offseason has been a disaster

we lose-carle, jagr, jvr, bob, pronger
we gain-schenn, leighton

not impressed so far

- mydoglicks



Jagr - stopgap for a year
Bob - wasn't going to play here for another 4 years at least
Pronger - is no longer an option - done
it's Carle JVR out
Schenn in

The Carle loss will hurt depending on Kimmo's health, but that loss needs to be addressed & Homer has Oh, 3 months to do so.
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