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aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 4 @ 7:24 PM ET
I dont see where the Flyers are void in talent. If they make minor moves, this team will still be a top team in the East
- bigmookalookie



seriously


devils lost captain and pens lost staal/sullivan/michalek

we're alright, everybody be cool man
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:25 PM ET
Lilja's the 6/7th defenseman splitting time with Gervais in all likelyhood.

Could well mean a trade is happening, too

- Jsaquella



Though Gus played very well last year when he was put into the lineup & should still be considered in the mix, they moved him in & out so many times, and he played well despite that.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:26 PM ET
I dont see where the Flyers are void in talent. If they make minor moves, this team will still be a top team in the East
- bigmookalookie

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:26 PM ET
seriously


devils lost captain and pens lost staal/sullivan/michalek

we're alright, everybody be cool man

- aosplayo



Yup!
Losing Staal, I think will hurt them, especially if Syd goes out for any time
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 7:28 PM ET
I dont see where the Flyers are void in talent. If they make minor moves, this team will still be a top team in the East
- bigmookalookie

just a goof...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:28 PM ET
Basically, 2/3rds of the existing contract, spread over double the term bought out.

However, as an over 35 deal, Lilja's savings on a buyout would be minimal. Zero reason to buy him out.

- Jsaquella


A buyout of a player on a 35+ deal saves the team salary, but but does not reduce the player's cap hit.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
Yup!
Losing Staal, I think will hurt them, especially if Syd goes out for any time

- puckhead17

sutter is no bum...thought that shero set the table well, but he hasn't followed thru yet.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
The Pens will be a much worse team if they can't even land Doan
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
it's like parise had his hand out to shake crosby's hand and crosby was asking him if he was sure and parise would say, yea man i'm your boy crosby smiles and just as his hand is about to touch parise's parise pulls his hand back and slicks his hair back psyche.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:40 PM ET
just a goof...
- isaiah520

ahh gotcha, sorry bout that
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:43 PM ET
it's like parise had his hand out to shake crosby's hand and crosby was asking him if he was sure and parise would say, yea man i'm your boy crosby smiles and just as his hand is about to touch parise's parise pulls his hand back and slicks his hair back psyche.
- flyerscup2011

There's a crude joke in here somewhere.....
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:44 PM ET
sutter is no bum...thought that shero set the table well, but he hasn't followed thru yet.
- isaiah520


No Sutter is no bum, but he isn't close to Staal, Staal is a beast who was trapped behind 2 stars, he can play in any capacity.
The Pens did well under the circumstances, but losing him will hurt, they are a weaker team then last season because of it
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:46 PM ET
One ? This is in my eyes a minor signing why is it getting delayed?? I sense a trade brewing
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:48 PM ET
One ? This is in my eyes a minor signing why is it getting delayed?? I sense a trade brewing
- griouxmvp2012


No movement clause, and private practice facility key

aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 4 @ 7:49 PM ET
One ? This is in my eyes a minor signing why is it getting delayed?? I sense a trade brewing
- griouxmvp2012




Boom

yea this is like a 700k to million dollar deal, plain and simple
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:55 PM ET
One ? This is in my eyes a minor signing why is it getting delayed?? I sense a trade brewing
- griouxmvp2012

same, I think a trade is around the corner
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 4 @ 7:55 PM ET
$196 million committed to two players.

$196 million. Think about that for a second.

It's mind boggling.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 7:56 PM ET
Not every addition can be a 1st line superstar player. You have to have 4th liners and third pair defensemen, too.
- Jsaquella


Agreed. Not sure what the plan is at the moment. The pieces aren't fitting right now. There is still plenty of time left. I wouldn't trade for Ryan or Nash, too expensive in terms of assets, I would make a big run at Doan 3yrs 15 million, if that isn't enough to get a deal made with him, then I don't know where to turn.

I'm glad Jagr wasn't brought back, so I'm cool with that, also liked the Bob trade. Wasn't thrilled with the JVR trade but I'm keeping an open mind. So it's on record I'm not hating on everything being done thus far.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:56 PM ET
seriously


devils lost captain and pens lost staal/sullivan/michalek

we're alright, everybody be cool man

- aosplayo

Are you drunk? Sunstruck? You're supposed to whine and complain that the sky is falling because the Flyers didn't pay 50% more for Jagr than they wanted to or succeed in signing a guy people here weren't sure was worth 7 a year in his prime for an average of more than $7.5 a year for the next 13 years.

And for others, there is a significant difference between Suter and any currently active Sutter.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:57 PM ET
$196 million committed to two players.

$196 million. Think about that for a second.

It's mind boggling.

- 77rams


Like its not hockey anymore, actually if this were baseball, those figures would be for 3 seasons each
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 7:58 PM ET
$196 million committed to two players.

$196 million. Think about that for a second.

It's mind boggling.

- 77rams


I think Minnesota had to do it. They needed something to jump start their franchise. They are just about the most boring team in the NHL prior to today. At least these moves gives them some buzz. Parise out of the Division is a good thing.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:00 PM ET
I think Minnesota had to do it. They needed something to jump start their franchise. They are just about the most boring team in the NHL prior to today. At least these moves gives them some buzz. Parise out of the Division is a good thing.
- PLindbergh31



It was good for hockey all in all!

KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:01 PM ET
It was good for USA hockey all in all!
- puckhead17


Fixed.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:03 PM ET


Fixed.

- KGBflyers10



Yeah, um hockey

It's Bettman's parity, good for the league

(man o man, are they pissing acid on the Preds boards)

Whoo man
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:04 PM ET
It was good for hockey all in all!
- puckhead17


I agree. I think it's generally a good thing in all sports when the big market teams don't scoop up all the elite talent. It's the general idea of why there is a salary cap. Parity is supposed to rule the day.
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