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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 4 @ 6:54 PM ET
MJL, we have had our battles, but don't get roped into this one. The train is way off the track into fantasy land on this topic.
- Daman



Its the silly season, for sure. The temp outside is not helping.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 6:56 PM ET
MJL, we have had our battles, but don't get roped into this one. The train is way off the track into fantasy land on this topic.
- Daman


We're simply having a conversation.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 6:57 PM ET
Seriously... who is this guy and why are they signing him?
- Flyers2821

NYI reject who is ok as a 6-7 guy...iow, a younger lilja w/ different attributes/deficiencies
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 6:57 PM ET
Sounds like Carle the Clone. If he can only turn over the puck consistently, we will have an exact Carle replica.
- Daman


One can only hope that he's a Carle clone. But far more likely that he falls way short.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 6:58 PM ET
NYI reject who is ok as a 6-7 guy...iow, a younger lilja w/ different attributes/deficiencies
- isaiah520


Agreed.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:00 PM ET
One can only hope that he's a Carle clone. But far more likely that he falls way short.
- MJL


Like I said, if he turns the puck over more consistently, we have an exact Carle match.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:03 PM ET
Wasnt there a joker that said after Parise signed that there would be a Ryan trade hours later. Guaranteed.

Well, that "guarantee" is worth as much as the Mens Warehouse guy. BTW, I didnt like the way I looked and the suits sucked.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:05 PM ET
Does this mean Lilja might get bought out?

Get Doan, and its definitely a successful offseason.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:07 PM ET
Like I said, if he turns the puck over more consistently, we have an exact Carle match.
- Daman


C'mon, I know you know better then that.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 4 @ 7:07 PM ET
Manayunk Mike is all over this
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:07 PM ET
Wasnt there a joker that said after Parise signed that there would be a Ryan trade hours later. Guaranteed.

Well, that "guarantee" is worth as much as the Mens Warehouse guy. BTW, I didnt like the way I looked and the suits sucked.

- Daman

Guess you don't think Ryan is goin anywhere
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 7:09 PM ET
Does this mean Lilja might get bought out?

Get Doan, and its definitely a successful offseason.

- Giroux_Is_God



A buyout of Lilja saves the Flyers 0 cap dollars.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:12 PM ET
A buyout of Lilja saves the Flyers 0 cap dollars.
- MJL

I see. I wasn't sure, that's why I asked.

What are the buyout rules, exactly?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 4 @ 7:12 PM ET
Seriously... who is this guy and why are they signing him?
- Flyers2821


He's a 6th defenseman with OK size and a good shot. Shoots righty. He's better offensively than Lilja, he's only 27 and he's buddies with Talbot.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:13 PM ET
Guess you don't think Ryan is goin anywhere
- Giroux_Is_God


Just citing two sources where the guarantee sucked.

Also making a joke. Surprise that mens warehouse dude isnt on an SNL skit. He also looks like the brother of the world's most interesting man "xx"
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 4 @ 7:13 PM ET
I see. I wasn't sure, that's why I asked.

What are the buyout rules, exactly?

- Giroux_Is_God


Basically, 2/3rds of the existing contract, spread over double the term bought out.

However, as an over 35 deal, Lilja's savings on a buyout would be minimal. Zero reason to buy him out.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 7:14 PM ET
NYI reject who is ok as a 6-7 guy...iow, a younger lilja w/ different attributes/deficiencies
- isaiah520


NYI rejects seems to be a prudent, precise plan. Now that the market has been cornered on 6/7 dmen, I'm excited to see what happens next. With Leighton and Gervais on board Holmgren is spoiling this fickle, ungrateful fan base.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:15 PM ET
What do we think is the fate of Mr. Lilja? Seems like we have too many #6/7s now....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 4 @ 7:16 PM ET
NYI rejects seems to be a prudent, precise plan. Now that the market has been cornered on 6/7 dmen, I'm excited to see what happens next. With Leighton and Gervais on board Holmgren is spoiling this fickle, ungrateful fan base.
- PLindbergh31


Not every addition can be a 1st line superstar player. You have to have 4th liners and third pair defensemen, too.
BaldRich
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kutztown, PA
Joined: 12.16.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:16 PM ET
Carlo Colaiacovo would have been a better choice... Or why not resign Kubina???
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 4 @ 7:18 PM ET
Carlo Colaiacovo would have been a better choice... Or why not resign Kubina???
- BaldRich




I think gervais will be dirt cheap which will be helpful in a trade for a 5.1 or 7.8 cap hit
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:18 PM ET
Carlo Colaiacovo would have been a better choice... Or why not resign Kubina???
- BaldRich

Kubia brok down last year and Colaiacovo is a injury magnet. Dunno but I guess we will see what happens
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 7:18 PM ET
NYI rejects seems to be a prudent, precise plan. Now that the market has been cornered on 6/7 dmen, I'm excited to see what happens next. With Leighton and Gervais on board Holmgren is spoiling this fickle, ungrateful fan base.
- PLindbergh31

if the phantoms improve, our prospects have a better chance of suck seeding.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:22 PM ET
if the phantoms improve, our prospects have a better chance of suck seeding.
- isaiah520

I dont see where the Flyers are void in talent. If they make minor moves, this team will still be a top team in the East
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 4 @ 7:22 PM ET
What do we think is the fate of Mr. Lilja? Seems like we have too many #6/7s now....
- Giroux_Is_God


Lilja's the 6/7th defenseman splitting time with Gervais in all likelyhood.

Could well mean a trade is happening, too
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