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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
Flyers offer the most money for both top UFA's and get shutout. WOW!

Holmgren played like a fiddle.

- PLindbergh31

how?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 4 @ 2:02 PM ET

- 77rams

never saw it
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:04 PM ET
He flat out KO'ed Eric Brewer. Simms is only 185ish, Brewer 6'3 230ish
- KINGKENZO

He's definitely an exceptional fighter, but Hartnell has the deeper resume. I can't say just because this guy came in and had a good season in the fisticuffs that he's automatically tougher than the guy who's been doing here for us on a regular basis. I'm more worried about actual hockey production than the extra-curricular stuff.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 4 @ 2:04 PM ET
yea i dont know what these guys are talking about simmer is a beast he can fight i you remember one of his first fights with us it was against the devils and he dropped the dude and then picked him back up and continued to pound on him
- griouxmvp2012

It was Clarkson.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:05 PM ET
they tell him to shoot more because he's not yet a natural scorer and his shot is erratic. his big improvement last yr was his committement.
- isaiah520



His shot isn't erratic. He's more of a playmaker then a sniper. I think that the talk of Voracek lacking a work ethic was BS.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:07 PM ET
yea i dont know what these guys are talking about simmer is a beast he can fight i you remember one of his first fights with us it was against the devils and he dropped the dude and then picked him back up and continued to pound on him
- griouxmvp2012

I didn't say he wasn't tough, just that he's got a ways to go before he's tougher than Hartnell in my book. Being a good puncher is one thing, being able to throw your body around the way Hartnell does year after year game after game and average in the mid to upper 20's of goal scoring is pretty tough imo. Simmonds has a ways to go before I see him that tough in my book.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:07 PM ET
how?
- Crimsoninja


The Season is over Crims! They signed Leighton, haven't gotten anyone else. And Holmgren was played as a fiddle. We might as well become fans of another team.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 2:08 PM ET
His shot isn't erratic. He's more of a playmaker then a sniper. I think that the talk of Voracek lacking a work ethic was BS.
- MJL

I'll think portzline knows more than you do...I know he does
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 4 @ 2:09 PM ET
He's definitely an exceptional fighter, but Hartnell has the deeper resume. I can't say just because this guy came in and had a good season in the fisticuffs that he's automatically tougher than the guy who's been doing here for us on a regular basis. I'm more worried about actual hockey production than the extra-curricular stuff.
- JoeRussomanno

I love Harts. Have been a big supporter of his for years, didnt just start because he was scoring goals this year. He does things for this team that no one else can, including Sims. He answers the bell against anyone and, more importantly, sticks up for his teammates at all times. I'm not choosing who is tougher between Harts and Sims just wanted to give Sims some cred.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:10 PM ET
I'll think portzline knows more than you do...I know he does
- isaiah520



And Helene Elliot also knew more then I did last off season, according to you. Here's what I know. Take what the media says with a grain of salt, and not what they say as fact.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 4 @ 2:10 PM ET
Carle must have played hard ball will Homer given Suter was never interested in going to an Eastern team. My assumption is he is gone as well or they would have come to an agreement on July 1st before the bidding war began
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 2:10 PM ET
haven't seen this on twitter, but Russ Cohen has been saying NYR are real close to trading for Nash.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:10 PM ET
I love Harts. Have been a big supporter of his for years, didnt just start because he was scoring goals this year. He does things for this team that no one else can, including Sims. He answers the bell against anyone and, more importantly, sticks up for his teammates at all times. I'm not choosing who is tougher between Harts and Sims just wanted to give Sims some cred.
- KINGKENZO

Simmonds is definitely up there. If anything I think he's capable of replacing Hartnell when and if that day comes. Just saying right now...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 2:12 PM ET
And Helene Elliot also knew more then I did last off season. Here's what I know. Take what the media says with a grain of salt, and not what they say as fact.
- MJL

Helene was right as well. even jake admitted when he went to MTL to train that he needed to improve in that area. I guess jakes a BSer too
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:13 PM ET
Helene was right as well. even jake admitted when he went to MTL to train that he needed to improve in that area. I guess jakes a BSer too
- isaiah520

I think we can all agree that Jake made some strides this year, whether he was lazy before or not. Probably was though
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:14 PM ET
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:14 PM ET
The Season is over Crims! They signed Leighton, haven't gotten anyone else. And Holmgren was played as a fiddle. We might as well become fans of another team.
- MJL


Yeah how dare players not chase every last dime in free agency
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
Helene was right as well. even jake admitted when he went to MTL to train that he needed to improve in that area. I guess jakes a BSer too
- isaiah520



Helene Elliot is clueless. She was dead wrong about Lilja. And so was anyone who believed her. Voracek showed zero signs last year of having a work ethic issue. I'd like to see exactly what Voracek said. I'm smart enough to know that everything the media says isn't gospel.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
If you do not know how to post a video at a size that will not stretch the page as first.

griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
If you do not know how to post a video at a size that will not stretch the page as first.


- ob18

sorry
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:17 PM ET

- griouxmvp2012

that's messed up
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
sorry
- griouxmvp2012


It's okay when you post it look for the high number and lower to roughly 350 or 400 max then one you posted had 640 (too big)
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
Carle must have played hard ball will Homer given Suter was never interested in going to an Eastern team. My assumption is he is gone as well or they would have come to an agreement on July 1st before the bidding war began
- Bayareaflyer


Carle saw Wideman get 5 years and a full NMC and said, wait, I'm better than him. Then he realized that when Suter signed, he'd be the best UFA defenseman on the market.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
Carle saw Wideman get 5 years and a full NMC and said, wait, I'm better than him. Then he realized that when Suter signed, he'd be the best UFA defenseman on the market.
- Jsaquella

"hey! I'm no doormatt!"
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 4 @ 2:24 PM ET
This is worse than what NJ got penalized for:

Parise & Suter Contracts:: $9.78 Million avg. in 1st 9 years. $9.4 avg. over 10 years. $4 Million total during last 3 yrs. $7.54 Total AAV
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